Do not touch Salesforce.

Especially Salesforce Marketing Cloud.

It is a fucking joke this product even exists. Buy Hubspot instead. Marketing Cloud is the single worst piece of software I have had to implement out of 4 years working in software and a lifetime working in tech.

Literally nothing works. You click a button and bam, nothing. The UI actively lies to the user. Nothing is guaranteed to work and support is some guy in India who shrugs his shoulders and walks away. Things will randomly break and warning messages are tiny, indecipherable babble that mean nothing.

If you are dev, walk away. If you are a potential customer, walk away. This company DESERVES a bad reputation for the absolute heap of dogshit that is Marketing Cloud.

The worst part is that it's likely going to affect my job and my career because of how fucking dogshit it is.

Fuck Salesforce in case the messaging isn't clear.

Just spent two days on a isotope filtering bug with HubSpot. Finally got it working.

10 points to me 😂

Lee Quessenberry [7:43 AM]
Michael is learning about stylesheets from Hubspot. HO LEEE SHEEEIT

Joe Makarski [7:43 AM]
dood. those hubspot stylehseets are soooo insane

Lee Quessenberry [7:43 AM]
I know! LOL

[7:43]
Better him than me

Joe Makarski [7:44 AM]
it's like Dreamweaver and Adobe's other web app eat each other

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ate*

Lee Quessenberry [7:44 AM]
and after they get done eating each other they go to the sperm bank and get knocked up by microsoft frontpage.

Joe Makarski [7:44 AM]
seriously.

Lee Quessenberry [7:45 AM]
WTF

TIL running a proper CRM and Customer Support channel is quite insanely expensive.

All the services charge per agent.

And if you add their other services like email marketing, the price just shoots up.

Had to pull a jugaad, and currently have it split between 3 different platforms - hubspot for customer support, sendinblue for email marketing and zoho for free custom domain email.

I absolutely hate HubSpot's COS platform. It's glitchy and keeps setting CSS values to NaN. I'm primarily a JS/Node developer and this random project I'm having to do with HS is killing my brain.

I got my first client at upwork almost a week ago and the experience has been awful so far, not because of this client but because of the codebase, it's so bad, it is running DEBUG=True on production and if I turn it DEBUG=False things break for some fucking reason that makes no sense (I don't think that's true but the previous developer states it). The website is running on pythonanywhere which is weird, bootstrap is a nightmare, the database needs to be in sync all the time using a manage.py command that executes tasks received through a webhook from a Hubspot shit that has all the information. Just adding a simple edit/verify profile on that site is such a fucking nightmare. The whole project its full of holes and things that are just screaming to break, its like a fucking house of cards that falls to the ground the second I edit something and it looks like its my fault. I'm thinking of telling the client that I will no longer work on this project