If you use Google photos: fine, your choice.

If your choice of using Google photos results in a picture with me in it getting uploaded to Google: I'll fucking end you.

Do dR screenshots of your rants count? *gulps* lol

Point made. I'd lie to eh borrow your explanation for some.. friends.

@Stuxnet As I'd like to stay out of googles hands as much as possible, that'd be a yes.

@epse Go ahead 😊

@linuxxx lmao I don't have screenshots backed up, so you're good.

@Stuxnet they don't contain my face (I hope) so that would not be THAT bad at least....

@Stuxnet Good 😅

@linuxxx Nah I don't even think I have a screenshot or downloaded rant from you, let alone one containing the face of some guy I've never met. That'd be kinda weird 😂😂

I recently cleaned my screenshots folder up because it had reached like 3k pictures...memes... In it and was a bit unnecessarily large

@FrodoSwaggins I duck when people use an iPhone with the facial unlock feature; I'd like to keep my biometric data out of any fucking phone but especially iPhones (you know my arguments as for apple devices and I know yours as for those as well)

This seems completely unavoidable. If you ever go outside chances are you'll end up in the background of somebody's photo, especially if you ever visit a touristy location. Honestly you would likely never be able to leave your house. The only way to have a strong guarantee and still live life would be to always wear a mask, like the kind people wear out in public when they're ill.

I’ll just leave this here 😉

https://duckduckgo.com//...

And any photos you do take, to practice what you preach, they'd better be developed from film (or you simply don't take photos of you and loved ones at all, period). Any digital photo, any digital anything has no true guarantee that it will only be accessible by you. Even if it is, it's orders of magnitude closer to the hands of big brother just because it's digital.

Sorry to tell you but your face is literally the first result when you search "linuxxx face reveal" on Google :/

@duckWit

>inb4 Wear a horse mask 24/7

>inb4 become popular "horse weirdo"

@C0D4 I saw the comment about dR pics, and I thought the same thing. :/

Well, then you will be glad to know that none of my photos of / with you have been seen or uploaded to Google.

And you think you’re safe ?

@PrivateGER oh the irony

@PrivateGER that's a valid point. I don't see any reason for face - revealing in devRant. Now the photos will always be out there, properly tagged.

then you'll be in the netherland's criminal database!

You should get those 3d printed glasses that were built to be adversarial to inception/vgg19/etc! Don't just settle for not becoming part of their dataset, pollute it too by making it think you're a banana!

@PrivateGER he started the thread, too. LOL.
The irony is strong in this one.

@Angry I find that privacy warriors are just as careless as others, except that they live in a false sense of security. I think it’s a binary choice: you either live like Richard Stallman (which is fair enough, I kinda adore him for his commitment)or you accept that companies and agencies will track your life to a certain extent.

@620hun You can't completely hide yourself from the web. But one should give as little info as possible. Simply being careful will keep your most important info hidden. You don't need to check in wherever you go, you don't need to upload your photos on social media, you should not upload your cards number, your address, your real name etc anywhere publicly or somewhere you suspect it will be treated to profile you. I would add, use encrypted channels for exchanging info and text, such as signal, proton mail, anything engineered for that purpose. Regarding mobile phones, I guess de-googling your phone should help too, but I am not sure for the comfort of use for that. The goal is to not allow a proper profiling of you, keeping critical info private, and not standing out. So keeping your tracked info adequately generic is pretty good imo.

@Teabagging4Life you can be not-tracked. Use TOR and never login to anything. Oh, and don’t carry a phone or use a credit card. Then, you can enjoy your super restricted life, but hey, no one will be able or want to profile it 😉

@620hun Guess you didn't get my comment. You can use services but still make sure you don't leave up much data other than the bare minimum which is required, the goal being having a very generic profile not really telling all there is to know about you. Other than that, having an interesting life != filling the web with your info. Having anything other than chat on Facebook contributes nothing to one's social life, for example. Nobody's life becomes better by self logging their activities for everyone to see. And your life is not tracked because "it is interesting" to someone spying you. No human does the spying directly. You are tracked to have a right profile associated with you. If you are a hikikomori never leaving the house, and that is found out by what you leave on the web, that's proper profiling too. I can't blame you if it's fine with you having every info about you potentially available to third parties. But you won't always be guaranteed to have your rights protected.

@Teabagging4Life Oh, I read both. I just happen to vehemently disagree with their content.

"You can use services but still make sure you don't leave up much data other than the bare minimum which is required, the goal being having a very generic profile not really telling all there is to know about you."

Define bare minimum.

"Having anything other than chat on Facebook contributes nothing to one's social life, for example."

I'm not on Facebook, but billions of people are, so surely it contributes to their lives. There are hundreds of chat alternatives that predate Facebook.

"If you are a hikikomori never leaving the house, and that is found out by what you leave on the web, that's proper profiling too."

My point was that one can go off the radar to the extent that any tracking would require disproportionate efforts (i.e. offline surveillance). Or you can stay online and accept that you're being tracked, because you will be, one way or the other.

Hi linuxxx :)

I still haven't tried to fix the phone and I have been without a phone for 2 months now I guess. The only thing I really miss is that I can't use Signal to chat with the group and you. Apart from that I haven't been in a situation where I really needed a phone. The ZeroPhone project is coming along nicely though so I hope I'll have one again in a few weeks and we'll work on a Signal app for it. I am on Ricochet right now if you've got some spare time :)

About the rant: Same thing for me. Hate it when people take a picture with me in it and then upload it to Instagram, Snapchat, Google Photos, etc.

@404response Yesyes, could you email me your ricochet key again? 😅 (ohai@linu.xxx)

@linuxxx just sent the mail, should have arrived at your mail server :D

@404response Are you getting the invite? 😅

@linuxxx not yet, guess it will take a few minutes again like last time

@404response I'm getting rejected as status 😬

E-mailed you mine, could you add me? 😅

@404response could you send another request, I think I messed up

@404response not able to 😬 (according to ricochet), could you send me a request? I emailed my id already :)

@linuxxx just sent you one

@404response I'm waiting a few more minutes, after that I'll reinstall the thing :P

@404response reinstalled, sending you a new request!

@404response New request status is delivered so that's something

@620hun You think you being tracked does not have any big results on your life. But the percentage of users for whom that holds true is not as big as you think. And, as I said, you cannot always be assured your immunity will be there. Tell that to someone in Saudi Arabia. In China. In Iran. In Russia. In Turkey. In UK, even. And in other "non first world" countries, or "first world countries" that are selective in what they actually uphold from your rights.

@Teabagging4Life I don’t see how this is a response to anything I’ve said.

Willing to end someone who uploads his picture on Google, but also does a face reveal at devrant as if it won't show up on a Google search

@LrdShaper There's a difference between uploading something and something getting indexed by a search engine.

🙂 well this rant turned out awkward, I think you should make another rant about this rant.

@kratos What's awkward about it? :)