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philcr
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Enough!!

There is to much hate in the world already without hating on Windows because you are a Linux user, or vice Versa.

All I'm reading is windows is shit! Linux is for supreme devs.

More to life than hate! Respect each other's skills. Skills are like race all are unique and no one race is superior and don't discriminate because of skills.

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  • 4
    More people need to read this
  • 16
    Yeah, we don't hate because we're Linux users. We hate because it's legitimately a bad operating system.
    We had to decommission laptops with last gen i3s + 8gb ram. All the users do is web browse and use office. The start menu lags! Everything lags!

    So don't give me some crap about hating on windows because I'm a Linux user.
  • 6
    I also hate the haters! GRAB YOUR TORCH AND PITCHFORK!
  • 9
    I hate most things equally. I don't like the systemd init in most Linux distros now either.

    I also hate reverse cameras and lane tracking in modern cars

    I also hate when companies force you to give phone numbers and addresses to use services that don't need that kind of information.

    And worst of all, I hate it when companies have immoral data privacy practices and nobody even flinches because that's the status quo now. That's why I host all my own services and don't have ads on my site

    Oh and I hate advertising.

    And Windows

    And ides in general

    But I can live with myself hating all these things just like I can live with other people hating other things
  • 3
    @cybojenix I think you'll find that you are hating on Windows because of the ecosystem that's not as light weight as Linux. That's fine but every other rant is hate about atom being worse than vs code or vice versa, nano being better than vim

    I just happened to pick the windows Linux as one example.

    My rant is more about hate than specifics
  • 0
    @qbalsdon I love these simpsons witch hunt cartoons
  • 1
    @runfrodorun I get you I hate people who drive like knobs, I hate websites that ask for inappropriate data.

    My point is i don't spend my life venting about my hates
  • 2
    @philcr but a lot of people in this community do. And actually most of the time I think it's really funny. Instead of trying to shape the community they way you see it look at those hate speeches as irony or satire and see if that works for you first. You never know :)
  • 1
    @philcr, I hear you
  • 1
    @runfrodorun I do view them as funny most of the time, but some times enough is enough
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  • 2
    I can't say I have come across any 'hate' its just healthy banter or disdain about OS's, IDE's, Turdpress etc.. there's nothing wrong with that. It can be funny, and it's mostly a 'let off steam' scenario that has caused you some shit at a given time. Lighten up, this is devRant where you can let off steam and say what the fuck you please!
  • 1
    There are Ferraris and old bugs... None is better too...
  • 1
    @philcr atom is fat, windows is a disgrace to the idea of os, ide or editor is a matter of taste, systemd is only hated by purists, not everything is opinion based, some software is terrible even tho functional (WordPress comes to mind)
  • 1
    The whole thing started as "let's not hate on people who have different skill set or those who like stuff you don't" and it's back to hating windows and atom. Ok Windows haters on this thread, I would gladly hate it with you, but maybe just maybe that wasn't the point.
  • 1
    The only Windows problems I've had were dumb mistakes and running buggy 3rd party programs.
  • 3
    No hate for windows devs,
    I actually respect them on how they can develop on windows??!!
  • 0
    @party101 probably because .Net languages are tight
  • 0
    Worse thing is: Most of the times, if you use windows, it is because you are developing something that has to run on a MS product, other wise you are free to choose whatever you want. That is shit.
  • 1
    Don't forget also if you don't have a mac you're not a good developer (of course MS hate included)
  • 1
    @mundo03 i see you stuck in the 90s ... Gimme a shout when you come back to the present
  • 1
    @coookie funny thing if there is a rant against linux, apple, google, android... They're not happy and Of course we are wrong
  • 1
    @mundo03 because mono doesn't exist... /s
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  • 0
    @dontbeevil am I missing a reference with the 90s comment? Maybe Windows hate is 90s?

    FYI part of the reason I hate Windows is missing references. OH! Yeah!
  • 0
    @runfrodorun Windows in 90s sucked :) and people, me included it, hated it because sucked... now it's just a stereotype, if you don't use shit hw and driver has the same problems of linux and os x. I don't see a BSOD since Windows 7 anymore (except once, but was RAM fault)
  • 0
    @dontbeevil I liked windows 98 and 2000. I tried redhat 4.0 which didn't support wintel devices.
  • 0
    @dontbeevil i said most :(
  • 0
    @dontbeevil I was actually a sucker for Windows 2000. I had a custom image with internet explorer removed. Which meant there was also no file manager and had to use Windows 3.1 program manager or task manager to launch stuff and I mainly used it with Cygwin. We were also able to install a gentoo prefix using the posix layer. But I digress...

    But I have not found that Windows sucks any less than it did in 1998. Mac on the other hand sucks a whole hell of a lot less than it did in 1998 with the advent of Darwin/xnu. And Linux sucks a whole lot less than it did in 1998, with the advent of drivers and improved kernel architectures and software selection, and wine, to name a few.

    Windows has just gotten harder to use (IMHO) still has tons of malware and i.e. Toolbars and the user base chooses to use outdated versions (often times) for purely aesthetics. The parts of the architecture that are huge issues have been further ingrained rather than solved.
  • 0
    @runfrodorun malware is the big market share price to pay, look at android ... and toolbars? you really see still toolbars? do you know what and how to install something? ... and which browser are you using that you see toolbars?
  • 0
    @dontbeevil Im not saying these are personal experiences of mine. Although for the record, when's the last time you installed something in Windows and knew everything that installer did afterwords? You know it probably copied some files, but where? What did it change in the registry if anything? Windows installers are a clusterf@@k I can hardly even blame my grandmother for ending up with a bunch of toolbars in her browsers. It's a lawless wasteland of installing toolbars and changing home pages and default browsers and installing malware... or not even being an installer. In Linux land there's this thing called a package manager. You actually do have some sort of guarantee of the source.

    So not to say that Linux wouldn't pay some price for big market share, but the makers of almost any major distro i have seen at least have some concept of controlling variables. Having executables as installers and apis that let you do anything is kind of the opposite of that. It's just bad desin
  • 1
    @runfrodorun in windows 10 there is the store,.if you want to install something on linux not from a package manager, is the same than windows :)
  • 0
    @dontbeevil that's why I don't do that :)

    Although, not apples to apples: Linux the privilege separation is very good. Not flawless because of certain services ajem designed to elevate privileges for certain tasks, and sometimes software bugs (somebody found one recently that allows you to open a file as root due to a race condition in the kernel) but generally speaking it's pretty hard to screw up your init scripts or config. Windows the security is a dialog that asks if you want to let a program do something. And everybody disables it.
  • 1
    @runfrodorun fair points, Linux was designed multi user not shoe horned in like windows.

    But you (and not just you!)have diversified from my original post being the hate!

    I do like Windows and Linux my point was the unnecessary slander of people's chosen environments whilst assuming there environment is the ultimate tool
  • 1
    I agree on some parts, but I dislike (not hate, I hate JavaOS, not windows) because it's so big and full of crap. Only dislike something if you've got a valid reason and you're not following the crowd
  • 1
    Windows sucks. It just does. I don't think about and it rant about until I run into an issue, which is often, because I work on a Windows machine. I rant about it when it's a big or funny issue, so I think it's appropriate. Rants usually imply hate, though I suppose they could end in a positive note.
  • 0
    @fun2code i guess you missed the point of the rant and i guess you're not using android or any of google services
  • 0
    @fun2code I use Windows as my daily driver too, because I choose by myself what's the best for me, we're not telling to other people what they must or must not use, what's right and what's wrong, like linux and open source heros do, they think to be the only one that are right
  • 0
    @dontbeevil some people also choose heroin.

    Some people choose not to use google services or android or skype or Facebook or anything too. But thing is most windows users exist in a circus of smoke mirrors and flawed logic; they don't see those who live differently, assume they do not exist, and then further go to affirm that this makes their house correct. Honestly that is what pisses me off a lot more than people going around saying their way is right and others are wrong.

    Don't be in such a high horse I admit linux has a shortcomings. Just because you admit Microsoft has no vested interest in your privacy won't make me devalue your opinion I'll still respect it and still think you are wrong. But you shouldn't go calling witch to all the open source developers, because the world would be a different place if people like me and my buddies weren't constantly working on Linux kernel and userland patches... for software that runs your world whether you accept it or not.
  • 0
    Anyone want to venture a guess what OS is running in all of googles data centers? Even apples datacenters are BSD, I think even a lot of Linux still.
  • 0
    @fun2code not a bad guess. I sort of assume google doesn't need Linux support, but it's very likely a red hat based or a Debian based.
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