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The guys who made Android Studio have absolutely no idea what normal life is like. I'm just a regular person from Germany (a country known for low Internet speeds) and decided to spend my time with creating a primitive Android app.

Why the hecking heck does it need to download anything when creating a blank project? Okay, maybe I'm just a boomer who is stuck in the Visual C# 2005 era and this entire dependency stuff has become a bit more complicated over the years...

BUT WHY DOES THIS ATROCITY OF AN SDK NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF PROGRESS INDICATION WHEN DOWNLOADING STUFF?

Listen, I'm just a regular person with a regular internet connection. Developing an SDK is not my job, but using one might be. And if so, I'd really like to know how much time downloading gradlelib_bin_exe42069.zip is likely to take when it's so important for creating an app.

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  • 1
    Germany and low internet speed??? AFAIK germany leads the fiber interconnectivity in Europe. Are you on wireless network connection? Try an ethernet cable. Real development is done on a workstation anyways.
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    @NeatNerdPrime No, Germany does not have great connection speeds, or many fibre connection, or mobile coverage.

    In OECD (didn't find a EU statistic in 5 seconds) countries, we are at places 34 of 38 with fibre connections.
  • 2
    That's so relatable.

    It's also the reason, i never made an android app, because when i tried back then, when i was younger and lived in some rural area, it simply just took too long to download, or just straight up didn't finish.

    The internet in germany is expensive trash. It got so bad, that the lawmakers needed to pass a law, that prevents Internet Providers to fuck around with their customers.
  • 3
    @NeatNerdPrime think you're confused with Sweden/Norway. They've had fiber for decades.

    In germany isps have to abide by requests of customer details for any suspected criminal activity (downloading, uploading) and hold the customer liable. This does not help (no free wifi, as the hotspot owner is liable)
  • 1
    @NeatNerdPrime Maybe he's an edge case of low speed internet. You can't expect a service to be mathematically equal for everyone across a nation, right?
  • 2
    @c3r38r170 @jkommeren @NeatNerdPrime the Bundesnetzagentur(agency in charge of the internet) asked the customers of how they got their speed rhey payed for.
    around on quarter said yes. The rest did not got the speed their paid for.
    Before the internet existed the gouvernment had plans for fiber for everyone in west germany. When the gouvernment changed and the post agency was privatised by the new gouvernment the plans were burned.
  • 2
    Every IDE that needs me to download and install separate language packs so that stuff like Unit Tests doesn‘t get translated into Einheitentests has already failed to understand what the life of a dev is like at the very fundamental level.
  • 0
    There surely is an offline installer...
  • 1
    @Oktokolo Oh yeah an offline installer...just need to download it first...
  • 1
    Are you implying that life in Germany is in some way 𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘢𝘭?
  • 1
    @electrineer that depends on the definition.
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    @BobbyTables
    Yes. But you can let a friend download it over a higher speed connection. And then you can carry it home on some offline medium when you meet that friend next time.

    There was a time before the internet where sneakernets where the norm. They never stopped working.
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    @Oktokolo bold of you to assume, that we had friends with a faster internet connection back then.

    or friends in general.
  • 2
    @thebiochemic It was sarcasm lol
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    @thebiochemic
    Back then, there was no internet - so obviously none of the friends had any connection to it.
    But there was the sneakernet - and it worked.
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