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Android Developer job ads next week:
* +10 years of experience in Kotlin.
* +3 years developing enterprise level apps using Kotlin.9 -
A newly met person, who sat next to me in class: I heard you do machine learning... I develop android apps too
Me: Oh nice, what do you do, Java or Kotlin?
Him: I do Android studio
Me: ...22 -
Me: "oh its a new year, time to check out some shiny new languages"
Me: *finds kotlin*
Me:
Me: "what the fuck"
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JetBrains released KotlinConf app
Backend made with Kotlin
Frontend made with Kotlin
Android made with Kotlin
AND GODDAMN IOS made with Kotlin!
Holy shit, that's awesome
https://github.com/JetBrains/...10 -
At a busy restaurant.
Person 1: oh my God this man here is having a heart attack. Is there a doctor here?
Person 2: here's ten reasons why Kotlin is better than Java for Android development5 -
Ported a Java class to Kotlin. 200 lines of code removed and much cleaner structure.
FeelsGoodMan10 -
Yesteryear's me: What is up with this effin' catelyn-katelin-thingy? Yet another hipster language trying to dethrone Java. Yeah, right. And why does it sounds like my ex's name?
Today's me:
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Google I/O: And now web add a new language to Android...
Me: Golang, golang, golang...
I/O: Kotlin!!!!!!!
Me: What?????? Another language?!?!14 -
Function definition in various programming languages
//JavaScript/PHP
function myfunc()
{
}
//Swift
func myfunc()
{
}
//Kotlin
fun myfunc()
{
}
//Rust
fn myfunc()
{
}
//Next...
f myfunc()
{
}26 -
Just added Kotlin plugin to my new android project and what do you know, CPU went to 100% of usage.
Aaand the winner is: Fucking Android Studio!
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Going back to Java after being writing code in Kotlin for a while feels like going back with your crazy, over reacting ex.3
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I'm trying to learn how to make apps for Android with Kotlin, but every single fucking tutorial, guide, introduction, you name it just assumes out of its ass that you have 69+ years of experience in Java. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN DECLARE YOUR KOTLIN ACTIVITY IN THE ANDROID MANIFEST LIKE YOU WOULD DO FOR A JAVA ACTIVITY?! GO FUCK YOURSELF OR TELL ME HOW, YOU FAT ARSE PRICK. YOU TOOK HALF A PARAGRAPH AND A IMAGE BIGGER THAT YOUR MOM'S ASS ON A MOIST DAY TO TELL ME ABOUT ANDROID STUDIO'S AUTOCOMPLETE FEATURE, YET YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN NEITHER EXPERT NOR BASIC CONCEPTS. YOUR JOB IS TO EXPLAIN BOTH OF THESE, OR AT LEAST ONE, YOU FUCK!
You just get thrown entirely new concepts without even any explanation! "Oh, why should I explain it, you know it from Java". Take a hot cup of coffee, shove it deep in your rectum. Your ass is now Java. I know nothing about nor do I want to, I came here to your petty website to learn Kotlin.
Yes, I know it's a descendant of Java. I don't give a shit. I didn't need C to learn C++, and it's stupid to say you need to know Java to learn Kotlin. Absolute garbage nonsense.
A fucking annoying waste of time, going through tons of tutorials until you find the one that is actually helpful.14 -
Was practicing kotlin today.
After finishing a file I ran the clean the code thingy and it removed 137 semicolons.
Its gonna take some time getting used to not ending with ;6 -
I just started learning Kotlin for a week or two and suddenly Google announced Kotlin will be officially supported for Android development.
I'm excited.8 -
Introducing the first (open source) devRant Discord Bot.
Current Features:
- Bot specific permissions
- devrant@<devRant username>
- devrant#<devRant randId>
- !help (Help command)
More features will come soon!
https://github.com/tankerkiller125/...
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Converting old Android projects to kotlin feels soo damn good!
All that Java garbage is going into the t r a s h, boy
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The joy of using Kotlin instead of Java :')
Though if I'm not mistaken they produce almost same out put :\ but writing kotlin is just time saving IMO30 -
Friend: Hey, so what do you do?
Me: I build backend systems and apis. I work with java/mongodb. I dable into some elixir and kotlin on my free time.
Friend: Cool, can you build me an Android app?11 -
Yahoo, Kotlin is the first class language for android. So no more fucking Java codes. No more 100 lines for basic configurations. No more null pointer exceptions.
Only beautiful code and fun.15 -
Things u truly HATE:
I'll start with mine
- JavaScript
- PHP
- XCode (I like Swift. It looks very much like Kotlin)
- PHP33 -
Kotlin! I recently transitioned to kotlin for Android Development and it's such an exciting journey!!!3
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Devrant has earned a place on the bar. Funny enough im posting this exact "rant" from my phone. Also Kotlin, figured id give it a trycatch
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Android really gets on my goat. They are moving things so far that they are actually doing more damage than good.
Upgrade my build tools to v25? sure! Now all my BLE code is borked, thanks for nothing.
Go to the documentation? Lol, that's deprecated fool!
At least now it can all fail to function in Kotlin, a wrapper for Java 6. Instead of keeping your tools up to date you just create another layer of obfuscation. Well done, so proud.4 -
So I've decided to go about converting a Java project that I've been working on to Kotlin a little bit at a time. I started out with basic entity classes converting them to simple `data class`es in Kotlin.
Eventually, I got to my first beast of a class to refactor. This class had over 40 service classes depending on it, so even a little hiccup would throw everything into chaos.
I finish all of the changes on all of the dependent classes, update the tests, and the configurations (as necessary), and I was finally ready to spin up the app to test for any breaking changes I may have introduced...
Well - I broke everything! But I was sure I couldn't have! So what the hell happened?
Turns out that as I was building my project with a Gradle watch, at one point something failed to compile, which threw an unhandled exception in the gradle daemon that was never reported.
So when I tried to run my app, gradle would continually re-throw the error in the app I asked it to run...
After turning the daemon off and on again, the app worked like a charm.
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IntelliJ!! In my opinion its the best IDE for Java and Kotlin and it supports you to code better
And I got it for free because I'm a student :D5 -
1. Learn Kotlin
2. Actually sit down and push through machine learning.
3. Finish integral calculus and start multivariable calc.
4. Work on 1 project until completion.
5. Socialize a bit more.
6. Obliterate bugs.5 -
Just introduced a friend of mine to switch from Java to Kotlin in Android dev. I feel very proud that I recovered a lost soul from the eternal damnation of coding in Java.6
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Kotlin
All the languages have a basic objective in mind that shapes both the language and it's community:
for c/c++ was low level hardware access and performance, for Java OOP and learning; Kotlin was mostly made to make dev life easier and tries to anticipate what you want to do instead of forcing his patterns and tries to help you instead of punishing errors.
As a dev at least i feel a little more cared about and less left alone (especially in the ugly world of Java for Android)14 -
When I was first learning Kotlin, I was so excited about its simpleness and power compared to Java.3
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Porting Java Code to Kotlin manually, just to get a better understanding of the language. Best thing so far, NO more Assertive Exception Handling.
Damnit Java, I know it for a fact that the damned thing won't throw an exception! There's Careful and Paranoid. KNOW THE DIFFERENCE
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An easy to use, high level framework in Kotlin for front-end web-development. Allows for creating web apps without using HTML, CSS, or JavaScript.2
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Projects I wish I would start:
- Blockchain-based debt clearing
- Ruby | Kotlin XKCD Telegram bot
- Bus stop GPS alarm (OhShitMystop)
- Sent images gathering Messenger bot
And right now I'm working on a Kotlin Android app involving speech recognition, localisation & statistics 🤔
No urge to finish that one, it's a learning sandbox.
PS: I'm trying really hard to avoid making any lame jokes on this weekly rant number 😁7 -
Truth: You will regret not using Kotlin as soon as possible. Don't deprive yourself of pleasant development and productivity boost.5
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Intellij, Android Studio, PyCharm, ...
Because it looks the best for a full IDE (editors are another topic 😉). Especially with Kotlin:
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While getting a pro in Kotlin, I started using
when(condition) {
true -> doOneThing()
false -> {
xyz = whatEver()
blaBla()
}
}
instead of simple if-else.
It looks nice but also distracting.
What is your opinion on that?
I guess most will be like:
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Oh boy, kotlin and its world of statics and lambdas are glorious 💗💗💗
I just finished this attendence counter app i have been working on for last 4 days.its quite simple so i tried to add as much constraints as possible:
-Good practices and minimal warningy
-Room database
-Viewmodel and livedata
-constraint layout
-everything in kotlin
Although i already have worked with room and livedata previously but i dont even have a hello world experience in kotlin . However it doesn't felt that bad tho for a newbie
Every code here is so small . Synthetic binding? Love at first sight.Although at some places its irritating , not having ?: Operator or its ugly 'when' logic, but overall its Awesome!!7 -
Does anyone feel overwhelmed by all the new technologies? It's like every developer nowadays code in JS, and knows ES6, React, webpack, babel by heart. I have been working in Java for less than a decade and sometimes feel like I can't catch up. Even in Java ecosystem there is now Scala, Groovy, Gradle, Kotlin... Not to mention other languages like Python, Swift... How do you guys have time to pick up everything?? 😖7
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Other dev: fuck you, your code can't handle null as input
Me: yeah, because it's kotlin. It's like I added @NotNull, so?...
Other dev: fuck kotlin
Me: fuck you and your nullpointers. Don't pass my precious constructor that crap!3 -
Still tryin to learn Java and suddenly appears Kotlin... I sometimes want to stop the frig world :'v5
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!rant
Got back into android development recently and while everything was pretty flawless ( I managed to get the basic concepts implemented in a day) something wasn't right.
For some reason I was not happy with the code i wrote, although I took examples from google and tried to adapt their code style. It looked aweful. I hated my code.
But the code itself wasn't the core of the problem. I could easily add new features and replace components with new implementations without breaking the app. All those "good code quality" identifiers were there.
Turn out the problem is Java. Or to be more specific: Java 1.6
Every listener which only calls a single function once a worker has finished needs 6 lines of code. If you implement the inferface in the class it gets messy once there are multiple workers and you have a generic interface. And there are no lambdas!
So I made the switch to Kotlin.
The app was converted to kotlin in 30 Minutes. Android studio can convert the classes automatically and very little manual work is needed afterwards.
After that I spent 2 hours replacing the old java concepts with Kotlin concepts: lamdas, non-nullable types, getters and setters in kotlin style (which in this case is c# style) and some other great thing.
The code is good looking now. I like it. I like kotlin as it has a lot of cool things.
Its super easy to learn. It took me about 2 hours to get into it. It combines concepts from java, javascript, c# and maybe a few other languages to form a modern jvm 1.6 compatible typesafe language.
Android dev is fun again!2 -
Biggest annoyance of favorite language:
Python has no static type checking. I know that is not something that is intended for Python. It's just that I enjoy the syntax, but would love the type-safety of something like Kotlin/Java12 -
Kotlin support on Android:
i never liked Java, not because of the language but for the usual bad design implementations and Android is one of those.
Then Kotlin arrived, it looked very promising but it's when i looked at Coroutines that it simply blew my mind:
you just have to write your code and the Kotlin's compliler "magic" will do most of the boring/complex stuff for you and it's even great performance wise!
I even refactored inter-process calls to simple sync functions with few like of code and for a non-android developer like me it's just love at first sight!
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I have to say, Kotlin is getting interesting now. At first i was like "WTF is this shit", but now im like "TF, did i just create a data class with 2 lines of code as opposed to the 14 i would have using JAVA? TF you've been Kotlin?"
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Joining devRant.
Learning Kotlin.
Learning to dev, actually.
Being fascinated by software development. -
I have now decided to use the following Stack for web developement.
Backend
- Kotlin with Ktor.io as REST application
- RethinkDB
Frontend
- NuxtJS Universal Application
- Typescript
- Buefy (Bulma for Vue)
What do you think ?11 -
hi guys, i'm django developer and i wanna learn android.
should i choose kotlin over java?
how is job vacancies?
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Fuck me. I have to update an Android app I have built 2 years ago. So much have changed, I need to update pretty much every dependency I have and no library seems to compile with the latest Android SDK yet.
I feel like Dr. Strange living the 14,000,605 possibilities when trying different library versions.
It's probably easier to rewrite everything. Now in Kotlin.1 -
1. Would have learned Android app development using Kotlin by wk 200
2. Done with machine learning by wk200
3. Would upload my own apps on google play store.
4. Buy a new laptop with my own earned money.7 -
"Change it so nobody notices you copied"
I think Kotlin logo was first, other icon it's just a random FB page/Website that IDGAF
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Such variable names
much helpful
very wow!
Either I need to download sdk source code for var names to show up correctly or I need to memorize which is for what :\
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Just switched to Kotlin.. For the first like 10 minutes I was like "What is this shit?!" and then I found Java to Kotlin converter and docs. Yay! Looks like it´s not gonna be that hard to do some apps in it.. Hopefully4
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I laughed waaay to hard at this. Anyone using kotlin? The language seems really nice, i currently develop with React Native if I can avoid java on android (too much to do too little) and was thinking about kotlin.
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!Rant && !Believe what I am seeing 😓
Just downloaded Android studio 3 to give kotlin a go to find out their designer is soooo much better now, I tried editing an activity with constraint layout and many elements inside without a single freez 😨5 -
People refusing to learn an improved programming language or technology, because it might contradict to what they "already know" and you're just there mastering it and appreciating its advantages that you will never learn if you had a closed mindset.5
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Started a small personal Android project after 1 year of not coding android.
Create project -> hmm -> should i... try kotlin -> install plugin -> new project. This thing seems to have a much clear syntax, unexpected.3 -
So today I decided to try out Kotlin on Android. Hacked up a little Textview-Button app. AMAZED with the little code.
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Wow my rant about kotlin's not information hiding is the first result if you google " kotlin information hiding "...
sorry Kotlin :(5 -
Kotlin and mother tongue
In my mother tongue (my first language which is Kikuyu) we do not have the letter L in our alphabet thus meaning L and R to us is similar thus pronounced the same.
Then Kotlin makes life hard for devs who got a mother influence in their speech from my tribe. Was having a talk with fellow dev who is my tribe mate and we had an issue agreeing between val and var hehe.
We had to write it down to tell which is which.
Thankyou Kotlin for making my day.6 -
!rant
Goodbye Java I will not miss you at all! I swear ...
I do like it when making web services (especially that I can use Java8) but for Android you have been a torture. Hello sweet Kotlin! I shall embrace you and treat you like my newly born baby!!
Story is:
Working on a new project where I need to talk to a web service (also made by me).
Started writing in Java, all is cool and unit tests pass.
Downloaded Android Studio 3 Beta 1 and converted my Java code to Kotlin, That AsyncTask did not look nice in kotlin, converted it to async & await feature and I must admit lots of code removed, no more need to create a new fucking AsyncTask every time the app sneezes for data!
I feel like I'm working with C# but with difference in syntax.
My life is now complete :)8 -
- finish the app for my school
- FUCKING finish the google scholarship before time ends ._.
- learn git
- build a home fileserver, like a own cloud, which can be accesed even further away (has any one some tips on how to do it? ^^)
- attach a gps tracker to my moped, which I can then see on a mobile app (because I don't want it to be stolen...)
- rebuild my homevillages website
- learn python
- replace my android Java with kotlin
- apply to an internship for a software design company
- more and more and more
uff. ._.''
Hope you guys will have a nice and PRODUCTIVE 2018! :^)10 -
I hate how the IOS developer of our team gets all the recognition for an app we made just because the manager has a bloody iPhone, even though I did the entire backend and Android app.1
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Stop sucking at competitive programming
Learn Android development with kotlin
Learn machine learning and apply it -
better late than never.
So I just decided to go with Gitlab after being a Microsoft Team Services user.
To do next on my list:
Move away from .Net for backend services, any suggestions? I use dotnet core due to being able to easily finish what I want and with less code to write. Tried Springboot for Java but not a Java fan, might checkout kotlin though17 -
After 1 year of working as android dev and coding in java, finally switched to another startup where everything is in Kotlin where I will be the only one maintaining that project.
Me: This code has almost no comments
Senior dev: Code is pretty self explanatory
FML
At least she spent 4 days with me and walked me through the code, so I'm not totally lost which is great!2 -
Anyway, so I've been learning the basics of Python and Kotlin since a week, I just wanted to ask if I could get IDEs and resources for both of them.
Also I know more IRL languages than programming languages, just saying.4 -
Question:
Kotlin?
Yes || No || Donno
Thinking about giving it a small touch but wanted to look on what others thoughts are.
Cheers ☕8 -
Whenever I hear or see someone talking about Kotlin I immediately start thinking of Kotlets and Kebab and I get really hungry...11
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Am I the only person that thinks Kotlin is entirely useless and will only lead to harder-to-maintain codebases in the future?
God, I was unimpressed when they announced that. Pretty sweet announcements apart from this one, though.15 -
Those much extension functions in Kotlin...
Just tries a lot combinations and got reminded of the "Let it go"-Song
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"Kotlin, why the fuck would you want to introduce a better language for Android studio and still base it entirely on jvm, fuck you jetBrains and Google, you java dick sucking retards. "
LOL5 -
Currently learning Kotlin, coming from Java. Just spent half an hour wondering wtf was wrong with
abstract fun add(E element)
Kill me2 -
I used to be a Java fanboy.
After seeing the modern things one can do with other languages I am just disappointed, that Java is so old-fashioned.
Some would say "BUT IT HAS LAMBDAS".
Good, that we have lambdas. We don't have optional parameters or objects (like in JS's {} or PHP's stdClass).
JVM may have many advantages, but I think, that Java is slowly dying although it is kept alive by some companies, still using Java in prod.
I think, that Kotlin is, what Java should have been.
I hope, that my wishes will be implemented in Java 10. If not, Java is considered as dead.8 -
Been watching The Lord of the Rings trilogy since yesterday for the third time in my life. I shed a tear at the end. That movie is as good today as it was 15 years ago. Awesome.
Now, to make this post relevant, im going to close VLC media player, open Android Studio and go on a Kotlin (which is becoming more and more like Gandalf the White) journey2 -
Is there a dev who knows a good webpage to get started with kotlin and spring?
I've searched a lot but can't really find something good. So I'd be very happy :)
Thank you7 -
I'm about to lose my freaking mind on intellij. Ran my tests yesterday and everything was good. I added a new method and a new test case today and suddenly no tests are found. Well they didn't go anywhere!! "Class not found, empty test suite" ... Lies! I've been messing with configurations for over an hour now. I just want to run my tests...1
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Just looking at the basic syntax of Kotlin gives me half a chubby. hahaha
It is just so damn simple and sexy!
https://kotlinlang.org/docs/...2 -
Another try to optimize app for Android Go.
For those, who doesn't know, app will be featured in special Google Play section if it fits some restrictions.
And one of thhose restrictions - app must use less then 50Mb of RAM.
So, I've decided to start from scratch.
Hello world activity without appcompat library, only Anko and Kotlin support.
32Mb of RAM
SERIOUSLY?? What the flying fuck, Google?
I hope some of you will point me, what I'm doing wrong.7 -
At the Android Developers under us:
Do you prefer the new Kotlin language or the good old Java? Because i'm currently learning Android Development with Java.
Would like to hear your opininion! :)6 -
rant, but !really.
Trying out this new Kotlin language. Pretty cool, except for...
val str: String = "what the fuck is this syntax?"6 -
Debugging is fun again.
@dfox, @trogus
please make Kotlin cape. I wrote 2 emails already and asked about this. please. Even React has separate cape. 😂
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Question here - what do you guys think of Kotlin?
Do you also think it'll be sufficient to learn Kotlin and not java to programm for Android?
I just began the transition, it's fun playing around with it, but a friend of mine wants to learn Kotlin to learn Android programming (and not java, he only has java basics).
What's your opinion on all this?13 -
Just learned how to write a for loop in kotlin and I now want to burn Java to the ground. When I first learned for loops in Java my brain almost imploded.2
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A Bible app for Android called Tour the Bible. It uses the Google maps API to put a pin in each location as you read so you can follow along and virtually "tour" the Bible.
I had a basic version built but then I switched to Kotlin then I pretty much completely rewrote it to use an api for the Bible content instead of plain .txt files. I still try to work on it in my spare time but with a family, full time job, full time school and part time freelancing I don't get much spare time.2 -
Kotlin shortcut things a lot it gave me headache when I'm trying to figure out what's happening but I don't know why I still love that language2
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I’ve got to build an app in 3 weeks that handles basic image editing and async requests. It’s gotta support both iOS and Android.
It’s also gotta scan barcodes.
What should I use?
Cordova?
Cordova+ionic?
Titanium?
Xamarin?
Dart/flutter?
Try and cram it through in native java/Kotlin and swift?
Something I’m missing?6 -
!rant
I am a xamarin developer , would like to try "native" android dev.
What's the best IDE for android development? Should I give Kotlin a try ?6 -
Started my first private App project using all the goodies of 2017 android development like TDD, Android architecture components (hence MVVM), kotlin (which I yet have to learn), RxJava2 (if I need it additionally to AAC) and maybe try to set up a CI environment.
Wish me luck guys and girls 😁 -
I'm learning Kotlin through a Udemy course and the course instructor has such an awful accent that it's often difficult to even understand what he's saying. When he says "string" it sounds like he's saying "sit ring." 😧1
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!rant
Time to start my adventure into the world of android mobile applications! Exciting. Going to be using Kotlin and libGDX, had good fun setting it up 😅
I hope libGDX will be a fun experience for mobile game development
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I got exams coming up but all I want to do I get my hands dirty with kotlin, python and learn the java design patterns 😭1
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Just started learning Android with Kotlin and is really nice but why the hell the sintaxis has to be in some cases really weird 😲6
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Is kotlin worth coding in? Or is plain Java better? There are many people here coding in kotlin what made you change to kotlin from Java or from anything else? Is there a specific reason? Speed? Stability? Anything? Is it worth using it instead of Java?9
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Really appreciating MVVM in android. It's doing wonders in my latest project as I double up on learning kotlin.2
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When i code in PHP. I forgot to type semicolon.
When i code in Kotlin I forgot that semicolon is not necessary.1 -
WTF Is wrong with Kotlin! Every fucking time I upgrade its Android Studio plugin i receive loads of errors about: Type mismatch: inferred type is FragmentActivity? but FragmentActivity was expected
for fucks sake bitch! Why the hell you keep on switching from optional to non optional on every fucking update, my commit history is full of this type of fixes -_-7 -
Started playing around with Kotlin and holy shit! It feels like java and js had a baby, but it's actually not a brain-dead pile of crap and works well. I'm sold!
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Although iv only been developing in android for around 7 months yet I fail to see the appeal of Kotlin.
It has no real advantage over Java. In my opinion its fucking lazy code. It might look pretty but that's about it. So I don't see why employers are opening their arseholes for people with Kotlin experience.
Im pretty sure they are doing it because its "the next big thing". If you can write solid Java I dont know what the big deal is.. Maybe someone can shed some light on this..
Android studio can convert Java to Kotlin with one click. So No Mr employer I do not see your reason why you employed someone over me because he has Kotlin experience. Its fucked!! So that project I handed you... the one where I had pride in my ability to apply solid Java... Yes remember fucking Java everyone?!... well it works exactly the fucking same and in my opinion is much more verified and readable. SOOOO FUCK YOUUUU MR EMPLOYER!!!!! Go FuckYourStupidLittleKotlinBumChumsRightInTheirShitRiddenFuckHoles!!!!!!
Rant over...4 -
I just got a legacy java system and im starting to see why kotlin should be implemented, so fucking imbeciles cant use null as a database path
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C# devs go crazy once they found out that kotlin has got extension methods
and some other c#-like features
Just use Scala.
There's a reason books with titles like 'Scala for Java/C# refugees' exist3 -
I take a look on Dart, which used by Flutter, a "React Native inspired" framework.
Very similar to Typescript and Java, so whatever you write, probably gonna work.
But I feel lack confidence on any language Google promoted. Eg kotlin and Go
🤦♂️
Google hired too many PhDs who have nothing to do, so they spend 1 day per week draw some doodles...
Hope this is not another weekend warrior project.🙄14 -
The most fun I ever had coding was when I first discovered Kotlin. After using java for most of the time I've been programming, Kotlin felt like a godsend. When working on converting one of my old projects, I was amazed by the reduced verbosity and just how clean it felt.
To any devs that still use java at all, do yourself a favour and take a look at Kotlin (kotlinlang.org)1 -
Java 8 to Java 11 all in under a year. Convince me this isn't the Angular team working on Java. There are the ones with a knack for teleporting versions. Honestly I could give less care on what newer changes occur cause....Kotlin baaby!6
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I'm starting to rank languages based on how easy is to create and work with multi dimensional arrays.
Converting a class that makes lot of DB connections from Java to kotlin made me realise that. Huge turnoff 😞3 -
Started making an Android app for the first time a few days ago and wanted a button in a fragment to trigger a function. Easy enough right? Well not for me...
-Thought if the button is in fragment_xyz.xml the function should be in xyz.kt right?
-Wrote the function and told the button to run it when clicked.
-Tested the button and the app crahsed.
-Spent 3+ hours trying to find the bug.
-Eh fuck it might as well copy paste it from the fragments file to the action the viewpager showing the fragment is on.
-Works perfectly fine first try.
-😑
I spent three fucking hours googling that and trying to debug that while I could have been doing so much more on ither parts of the app...
I mean at least I know now for the future? -
Hi, so I want to get into Android App development.
I know the basics of Java and I have already written some simple apps with Java.
However I would like to get more serious with it and now I wonder if I should directly start writing apps in Kotlin or if I should write them in Java.7 -
This is first month Kotlin has entered Tiobe top 50 languages (at position 41) ❤️surpassing Clojure, Rust and others.
Way to go Kotlin.1 -
Got to love Google. This years IO 2018 has been one of my best. So many new tools for developers to become successful. Android & its new set of tools like Android Jetpack & the immense love Kotlin is receiving its gonna be an awesome year for Android programmers & Kotlin as a language.2
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Can anyone point me to Android tutorials/resources using Kotlin? ( I don't know Java... Coming from iOS background)5
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!rant
To Android developers who are employed, how's the industry with Kotlin? Are you guyz shifting to it or still stick to Java? And what are your thoughts about Kotlin future? Thanks.5 -
If I don't know Java and no plan to learning it how should i learn kotlin?
No experience with c or c++ either. No programming experience at all. Because HTML and CSS aren't programming so yeh. plan to learn JavaScript next month after my fucking exam.6 -
Don't know if Kotlin is actually a lang for the future or again some hipe-shit.
Tried some tutorials, and I reeeaaally liked it.
Any toughts?4 -
When u converted ur codebase to Kotlin all because you heard about it, but really have no idea what Kotlin is!5
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It so painful using two different languages in the same codebase. I keep writing Java syntax in a Kotlin file and vice versa, then spend a minute staring at the code wondering how this perfectly valid snippet won't compile :/4
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!rant
Should I learn golang or kotlin?
At this point all I know is they're 2 up and coming languages... Maybe2 -
I recently started learning Android development with Java, but now I'm confused if I should learn kotlin as well. What do you guys think? Kotlin > Java?6
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At some point I was watching a sethbling video about programming mining turtles in a Minecraft mod called computer craft, which uses a reimplementation of lua with some mod specific functions. This inspired me to learn lua, then as I got bored with that I started moving through different languages until I settled on primarily kotlin and rust1
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Thinking about teaching a friend programming, I'm tempted by Kotlin as he's interested in mobile dev. Reasonable? Also any programming teacher have tips? I've always programmed so not sure how to look at it from a muggle's - I mean non dev view point.4
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Pole!
What language would you use for:
Native windows
Multi platform
Android
Android + iOS.
Web apps (frameworks)
Requirements:
Local database (wich one btw)
Gui
Easy to learn.
For me, well I'm not good at any language now... Was preety good at visual basic 6 back in the day and stopped codding for years.
I'm looking at python with kivy for multi platform (all... And I mean all, even blackberry) but I just can't get the shit to work for multiscreens... Due to my lack of knowledge on how to andle children (but love kids)....
Also droidscript and kotlin for Android but both are limitimed to android (as far as I know, don't know if kotlin have gui for windows /mac/Linux)
Also front end web for one project I'm working on9 -
The Kotlin Koans tutorials are actually really helpful. This language feels really smooth; I like it. Now to actually make something with it...2
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Yes, thanks you, IntelliJ, how did you know I wanted to set the fucking NODE_MODULES folder as my fucking KOTLIN SOURCES ROOT every time I hit Gradle refresh?
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I can't shift to kotlin because my company is fucking around on being on Java 7 (with retrolamdas *wink*), where it takes 10 minutes for a gradle build.2
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Learning Android dev recently, everything is going quite well but damn, I'm stuggling with those recycler views.. any tips?6
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Word of advice:
Whenever you plan you invest a considerable amount of time in learning a new language make sure that its well documented and has a good support.1 -
"My code is explain itself. Well, I need no comments to understand it."
I don't care if you wan't to write comments or not; If don't write any then i don't care because fuck you and your code.
May it be java, kotlin, python, javascript or anyother language, you think "everyone can read", i hope you'll never find anyone who has to deal with you and your cancerous code.7 -
Hello everyone.
I recently started android app development and i wanted to ask if you code entirely in java/kotlin or use xml+java/kotlin ?
I feel like to get better i should code entirely in java/kotlin. Am i wrong?3 -
Why do you (if you do) prefer dynamic languages? I.E Python, Ruby, JS over Kotlin, Swift, and Haskell? (I know why people don't like Java, I purposefully omitted that).18
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Finally I introduce webpack to my kotlin beast... Say hello to react.. she is nice and pretty she will be best partner for you ..
I am developing my server side with kotlin and spring I needed some robust js for the fronted so I added react.. -
So, I’m on interview 3 with a company looking to build a cross platform app.
They posed the question of what we should use to build it; React Native or Flutter? Or just go native with Swift and Kotlin individually? What’s your thoughts?
I’m really interested in this conversation.2 -
I feel that it's better to develop in Kotlin, for android, as a beginner, given the recent announcement.
Any other suggestions?12 -
I have been an android developer since long time, yet android migrate everything from Java to Kotlin
But am really worried to migrate everything from Java to Kotlin or begin this phase can you please help and tell me where is the best way to learn kotlin and get easily adapted3 -
Slept for a bare total of 10 hours in the last three days, preparing, organising and headlining a Developer centric event with tech talks and Codelabs on Kotlin and ES6 at my university with just 3 active team members.
Professor incharge comes, fucks shit up, changed the ending note summary and sent it to the reporting authorities without my knowledge.
Now I am being asked why the actual event and the proposed agenda don't match.
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Git repositories? What is the best online for free
Android Studio + Kotlin
Hey guys
So, I'm thinking on starting programming again... slowly cause of Burn out
I'll be homesick now for a while and I want to start coding again.
I've been making Apps for Android in App Inventor, but now I want to make stuff that sincerely will be hard on a complete visual programming language.
So, I'll be starting to learn kotlin
My problem now is that I don't do any really programming for years, and most of my knowledge is from 1990's. I want to put my code in a git repository but GitHub doesn't have a free option and I can't spend money now, since I'll gain a lot less.
What are the best alternatives online, or tricks, like online VMs
thanks for the time11 -
I wonder if Google released Flutter because they can't let Facebook have all the fun with react native. Or maybe they did it because they had fushia os in mind for a loooong time. Or maybe because they realized that the android api is overly complicated and the Dart way is easier. Or maybe they did it for the lolz.
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"A day in the life of a mobile app developer"
No back-end validation or back-end string sanitisation.
All in the front-end. -
I started to learn Kotlin today and am already confused:
Is there any difference between between Ant, Maven and Gradle?2 -
Well it says favorite tool, that would have to be vim. Close second is everything jetbrains ever made including Kotlin. Most useful would probably be git. Where would we all be without git?
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I have a little ask for you guys, If you need to start a Java project, Will you use kotlin or Just Java? I'm a little confused with this choice, so i need more visions19
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Hi devRant,
I'm starting a little side project (a web app for finding/booking musicians) and have to decide which language to use for the backend. I have broad experience with Java and C#, but it would also be nice to learn something new (Kotlin? Go? Rust?)
Additionally, what's your recommendation for databases? (SQL vs. NoSQL vs. ...)
For the frontend, I'd like to use typescript, webpack and Vue.js.
Any thoughts? ;)8 -
TFW a method is acting weirdly, and after much investigation you find that you forgot to change the contents of the method when you copied it.
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Coming with "practical" ideas for things to make, other than bloody Discord bots and stuff that helps them.
I really wanna learn a new lang like Kotlin or Ruby, but I just don't know what to make in order to properly learn them.1 -
anyone done anything cool I can look at with a Kotlin Multiplatform project? just read about it and it looks really interesting.1
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I'm proficient in Java,decent in c, and started and ultimately hated html/css I'm thinking of learning Kotlin, worth it?5
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I give up! Been trying to solve this shit for a week and still failed:
Using Android Data Binding, two-way binding and when I compile I receive this error:
Unknown class: java.lang.String
It was working without issues before upgrading Android Studio.
Anyone has a clue how to solve this shit?
By the way I'm using Kotlin, on Java it doesn't produce errors, and I'm not going to convert my project to Java ...8 -
I want to rewrite one of my projects (a password manager) from Go to Kotlin or Python.
Which one of the 2 should I choose?
I know nearly nothing about both.2 -
Tips for learning 2 languages at once? I'm learning Java in school, and I'd like to learn Kotlin as well. I know they're similar, so my main concern is just mismatching syntax.4
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I recently performed a huge refactoring effort on a Java project converting both the persistence and utility layers to Kotlin. Gotta say, I think I'm starting to fall in love with programming again!
Putting aside how pretty it is now, I've reduced those two layers by over 2400 lines of code -
Hey I am just curious, do you think is there any good reason to stick to Java now that Google officially supports kotlin?
Thanks1 -
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prediction question: how long do you think until JavaScript goes away, and what language do you think will replace it as the de facto web language? I know Dart is aiming to fill that niche, as well as even Kotlin/JS and/or Kotlin/WebAssembly8
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Trying to find some sort of java method to compile an external kotlin file at runtime and then instantiate an object from it to use in my java code.
I've seen some kotlin users here before. Wouldn't happen to know of something like this? I have been searching for days and haven't found what I need.
I can do it with java to java. But some users would like to use kotlin.
This is driving me kind of nutty.2 -
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Just learned that Kotlin has extension properties to go along with its extension functions. Anything else I'm missing?1 -
Java, Scala, Groovy, Kotlin or Closure? Which do you prefer?
If not Java from those above, can you give an example why?
I'm curious what you guys like. If you're not interested in Java, please stay away, it's not about C++ or any other fancy language.16 -
Alright, Kotlin, I really like you but...
WHY TF IS 0xFFFFFFFF A LONG. WHY DO YOU TAKE THIS PERFECTLY FINE, BUT SIGNED, 32BIT AND USE IT AS A FUCKING LONG. NOW I'M SUPPOSED TO APPEND .toInt() AT EVERY TIME I WANT SOME HEX EVALUATED AS A COLOR.
THIS IS NOT OK, I NEED ANSWERS. HOW SHIT INTO YOUR BRAIN AND THOUGHT THIS WAS FINE!!!1 -
Kotlin/native. Because it’s the only project that solves cross platform issue the right way and it supports all major platforms. Not like some messy solutions like electron or react native.
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Balancing final year CS with a startup that's that will be difficult and might end in a big payout, yay or nay?4
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Jetbrains shoot them self in the lag with taken fun as function keyword in kotlin #memesWillCome.
Don't blame me i love kotlin!
I even convinced my boss that we should continue in kotlin.2 -
So i'm a beginner trying to learn machine learning, i've been studying python by the last 6 weeks or so, my 3rd try on learning code (1st tried Java: got bored then 2nd tried Kotlin: didn't know what to do 99% of the time, got stressed) and then i had the brilliant idea to make my first ML script a sentiment analysis one... from scratch... you know what happened.
I'm trying something easy tomorrow.7 -
After you spent 3 years going into web development and eventually becoming good at it then you realize mobile apps sell for way more money than a website because of the existence of wordpress, wix, shopify... Like i aint shitting everything i learned so i can learn kotlin and swift from scratch. Like wtf is wrong with the market, software is software. Fucking fuck my life.1
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FFS Kotlin, did you completely forget to mention how to create an object in js or did you seriously not think about the usage of the `new` operator when writing that compiler.
I just wanted to use that glorious when statement for my discord bot. Not to mention that retarded tutorial with incredible gaps and cyclic references and now this. -
I know this is a recurring question. What language to learn in 2018?
Kotlin, scala, elixir, rust, go, ...?
I need something practical and preferably a language that at least partially supports functional programming patterns. Oh and also I don't want to learn Haskell. Thanks.6 -
I am interested in developing faster with Android. So I look around for options. So far, I found React Native and IONIC.
Then I watch Google I/O 2017.
And there is Kotlin, approved as first-class language for native. Haven't tried it myself, but many syntax I looked into looks nice.
So, native, or hybrid?10 -
Should I dig more into java or Kotlin? Are there any advantages to java? From what I've learned so far, it seems like java leads to a lot more writing of the same things over and over again.
For example, it's good practice to keep a class' variables private and have public get() and set() functions. Java needs you to write these functions each and every time, Kotlin spares you that stuff. So, any reason to still be learning java?3 -
I am using python scripts for mathematical computations and deep learning wheres spring to build the server and now want to handle the scripts from spring guess what scripts were in python 3.6 and fucking jython does not support it.. so tried finding the different libs like jpy , jpe and analysisRPC.. Everything seems just bullshit .
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Wanna develop android apps, i am a .Net developer and i know xamarin sucks a$$. So was wondering about kotlin but i wonder how close it is to c#. Any ideas on android development for a dotnet developer?9
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Wait someone said Java is going downhill and new projects aren't really made in Java anymore outside of Android? The fuck I'm just learning Java. Granted I really am learning it because I want to make stuff for Android but again wtf? Will this become its only use at some point til Kotlin takes over?3
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I recently started learning Kotlin and while I like it a lot already I find it to be a really strange language at the same time. This is coming from someone mostly doing numeric stuff in Python (for my PhD) and Android development in Java (my personal side project, which I'm currently rewriting in Kotlin).
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Anyone ever try Tomcat debugging in VS Code? Specifically with Kotlin? I'm starting to get real fed up with IntelliJ tbh... it keeps screwing up when I have a multi-project/module workspace.
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How does Kotlin compare to Java? Got experience / opinions worth sharing about them?
Always wanted to make some android apps as hobby but Java was grossing me out.4 -
Android Studio 3.2b4 once again regressed on "No tests found" bug for Kotlin projects.
I guess someone at big G decided to "comment out failing tests for now and come back to it before the release"
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Flutter has released. I saw it in September @ Google Dev Days in Krakow. Didn't liked it.
Same now.
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Lack of free resources for learning Kotlin for Android held me back a little. But I gotta continue.2
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All went crazy when Google announced that Android would support Kotlin ... but that is not new, and that takes a while being so
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I'm an undergrad junior android developer who has followed Kotlin ever since it came to light but still haven't written a word in it. I hope the android lords forgive me.
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Does anyone here have experience with Kotlin?
I'm 100% JavaScript/web development for the moment but I consider trying to write some native Android apps earlier or later and heard some good things about Kotlin (language developed by the guys from IntelliJ afaik), which is supported natively by Android.
Soooo, how does it hold up? -
How to make all of source code files of an Android application fit inside the Android Studio window?
Rewrite it in Kotlin with Anko Commons *lenny face*6 -
Hey guys,
I want to learn Android development with Kotlin. I have no prior experience with either technology. Where should I start?5
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