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Jesus, Apple are fucking amazing at design! A keyboard I need to prop up with a book and a mouse I can't use when charging.... Genius!!!!

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  • 18
    I actually like the keyboards, but the mouse is a huge failure
  • 10
    You're tipping it the wrong way for good ergo.

    FYI love Apple computers but don't waste your time with their peripherals IMO.
  • 3
    @g-m-f Lol, actually made me laugh out loud.
  • 4
    I was saying the same thing when i got a Mac for work--was my first time working on one. At least the mouse has gestures, but Jesus, is the keyboard to small for my sanity
  • 1
    @wilziack don't worry Wilziack we're almost there!

    Is this MASA? Si, fly.
  • 4
    Well, you could charge it when eating lunch or getting coffee. That's what I do, and the battery is not an issue then. 👍
  • 15
    Step 1. Buy a new keyboard.
    Step 2. Buy a new mouse.
    Step 3. ?????
    Step 4. Profit.
  • 3
    @rickygoldchain work paid for them.... Oh well
  • 2
    @jens-peter in a perfect world....
  • 0
    @runfrodorun qué?
  • 21
    iDiots*
  • 1
    @wilziack <bad accent> somos el coro de South Park mmbien

    Que?
  • 1
    @g-m-f good one
  • 17
    "it's not a bug, it's a feature" , "you're charging it wrong"
  • 9
    @vinerz the fact that it charges in two min doesn't excuse the stupidity behind the design and there's no getting around that...so congrats on your sponsored post, live happy with fucking Apple and let @Letmecode code!

    #2cts
  • 0
    @dontbeevil I feel like that's not what Apple would say. They have bad designs. Kind of like another huge consumer company out there.
  • 5
    It's clear people don't appreciate this powerful and elegant yet simplistic feature, which implicitly states that when the mouse needs to charge, you should too.

    This is achieved by forcing you to step away from the pc.
  • 3
    @ggromx hahahha apple brainwash people
  • 6
    @Letmecode probably it's not obvious, but I'm being ironic.

    It's hard to justify such an obvious design flaw unless it was deliberate, but i have not the slightest idea what reason could it be.
  • 1
    Or a wired mouse. Hell i3wm I touch the mouse like twice a day, web browser tool only. Even then I have the Firefox vim plugin.
  • 1
    @runfrodorun same for me (i3wm and vimperator) but I'm using a graphics tablet instead of a mouse. I find it more comfortable and precise when I absolutely need to move the pointer
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  • 0
    I mean it's not like they designed the smart phone

    oh wait...
  • 0
    It might be awkward out the top unless there was a groove and those cables are usually super short maybe they tried it first and it actually was a worse experience
  • 0
    @timurtu no they didn't design the smartphone
  • 2
    @dontbeevil they definitely put it in a whole new league though. Blackberry never forget... nice displays, ample processing power, etc. The standard to which all other smartphones aspire.
  • 0
    @dontbeevil I mean they brought it to the masses which is something they do often Apple has so much influential power. If they didn't who did?
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  • 1
    Apple Track pad all the way...
  • 2
    @redEyedGuy idk. I prefer thinkpad touch point or track point. And even then I prefer the older track points from 2008 or earlier.
  • 1
    @klemenkeko testis. Svaka cast applu btw ...
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    @klemenkeko funny af
  • 1
    More unhappy apple users... Whoopee doo 🤔
  • 3
    @cmall1234 it's impossible, apple users are always happy, any decision made by their god is the best one
  • 3
    That's why I have this beauty(Ducky Shine 6 Special Edition) and cheap A4Tech wireless mouse 😎 (and also use Windows 7/elementaryOS machine)
  • 1
    Ironically, you've got the PRAGMATIC programmer book under the keyboard 😉
  • 2
    @Faraaz ha, nah, it's 97 things every programmer should know... devRant isn't even in there... Wtf
  • 1
    @wilziack sorry my bad 😅
  • 3
    I used to use an iphone
    Since I know the blessing of android I started to almost hate apple
  • 0
    @aile11 to be fair, the 2015 macbook pro is the best laptop I've ever used. All other apple products annoy me but the ones i use came with my job. I actually like their full size keyboard
  • 1
    @wilziack its still just personal preference
    I like Windows and android
  • 2
    @aile11 heroin use is also personal preference.

    More relevant- whether or not you give your password to a friend, use a secure password vs insecure or use an operating system that has huge economic incentives to surrender your personal information to a third party is also a preference... I guess
  • 2
    @runfrodorun ok, that's funny, and I guess you mean windows about that personal data stuff
    I can't really say why it isn't bothering me too much... But im using Windows anyways, just because a lot of games aren't available on other platforms
    Well, I could lookup or try it in a vm, see how many games run on Linux (not gonna try osx again)

    Btw, for passwords I use the password manager Lastpass I mean, a different, 16 character long password for each service is nice, do you have any concerns about Lastpass? ;)
  • 1
    @aile11 no concerne about MS and Windows stuff, I love it and I'm really glad to use it as my daily driver...but about lastpass read this http://hypelee.com/2017/03/...
  • 2
    @dontbeevil what I can read out of it is that the flaws lie by the extensions, and that there has to be Spyware on your pc, to access the extentions data

    I don't want to sound too confident, but I'm sure there is none on my pc

    If you think it's that big of a concern, I could give keepass a try, it's featured in that post
    Or like, uninstall the extension and use lastpass as a website
  • 1
    @aile11 there are also operating systems less vulnerable to spyware so that's an option too just saying.

    But bottom line is don't go downloading things from whatever.com. Although Windows has tried hard to teach its users to download software from websites and install blindly, Linux is a little more on key here with the trusted source that is gpg key verified. Mac only recently started doing this... -_-
  • 2
    @runfrodorun im not that stupid, I even said I'm confident of not having any Spyware on my pc, anything sketchy is done in a vm

    So, there's a chrome extension for keepass as well, maybe that's about as secure as lastpass if you use it that way?

    Also I found a browser witch claims to have a good pw manager "maxathon"
    Just adding that in case it's any good

    I'm aware of Linux being less vulnerable, but a lot of games just don't run on Linux, that's my main point of staying with windows

    If I'm taking too much of your time, just tell me, I don't want to bother you too much ;)
    Just curious as to what I should be using
  • 1
    @aile11 no sweat dude ;) I'm just being snarky but maybe it's not coming across that way. I don't take myself too seriously.

    Honestly I don't use browser extensions at all, that's my first thought. Except okay I guess that's not true I do use the vim plugin in Firefox to make it behave like vi so you can control it with the keyboard only.

    I use lynx more often then I care to admit too... that browser has zero vulnerabilities! (No js, no css so you can't hide links or use lexicographic attacks, no x11 it's fully terminal based so you can't use creative fonts for lex attacks, and no plugins.)

    <pc principal dropping the mic and putting his arms out>
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    @runfrodorun my browser is full of em
    Anything that makes stuff easier, ok, also stylish for awesome dark themes

    I wouldn't be able to use a browser like that for too long, especially since most websites I visit won't even work :P

    Now for ease of use and of course security wise, what manager would you say is best?
    Keepass seems good, but i would want it to sync, I think that's possible, but I didn't search long enough yet
  • 1
    @aile11 I'm one of the weirdos that still remembers all of their passwords manually. I have a regiment that I do every night to make sure I remember them, and they are extremely long and extremely nonsense. :P
  • 1
    @runfrodorun at least it's the most secure technique, I couldn't do that.

    That's why I need a good pw manager, I can't remember all of that shit, and I've got too many accounts for too many sites and games, no chance without using the same pw or a manager

    I'll keep lastpass for a while, but I'll try alternatives, when I find the right one, I can give up lastpass ;)
  • 1
    @aile11 problem with my method is if I ever get waterboarded for my passwords I can't just hit a self destruct button and have nobody know them. I'll likely eventually cave in.
  • 2
    @runfrodorun where do you live? :P

    My method is a little more problematic, if someone puts my finger on my phone they've got access to lastpass, witch would be all my pws

    Or if my phone isn't available, they can just ask about my email address and pw

    I think your method Is still better in terms 9f security
  • 1
    at least you can still Escape with your keyboard!
  • 0
    @Re-cursing have you been denied escape?
  • 1
    @wilziack check out the latest macbook pro. I'm a linuxoid, currently on a dell laptop. i _have_ escaped
  • 0
    @Re-cursing ohhhhhhhhhhhhh apple....
  • 1
    And the charging smart pen also a flaw
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    actually, it was a deliberate design choice. they didnt want people to just leave it plugged and use it as a wired mouse. weird decision, but not a bad design. @ggromx
  • 0
    @Letmecode @zaftco honestly I can see both sides on this one. I would rather be able to use it as a wired mouse personally but probably not many people would use it wirelessly then, and companies like Ferrari and Apple want to make sure their product is on display. Like how you have to buy something ridiculous like 8 Ferarris with in 5 years (no idea what the actual numbers are) before they'll even consider letting you buy a laferarri. I don't like it but i sort of get it.
  • 0
    I hear they're rebranding. AppleShat
  • 1
    @runfrodorun @aile11

    In the scope of things, I value my physical safety over my digital security. No one would ever need to waterboard me, any legitimate threat to life and I'm sure I'd say "whatever man, just let me live and leave with all the appendages I came in with."
  • 1
    @brettmoan saying that is what enables them to force information out of you and own you
  • 1
    @runfrodorun so they own me without waterboarding and you after. /shrug.

    I leave with all my fingers :p

    But in all seriousness, I aim to be either insignificant (and therefore not a target) or both physically & digitally secure.
  • 2
    @brettmoan I disagree with that point of view still but respect your right to have it.
  • 0
    I find the keyboard to be meh.

    But the mouse (which I own and never use) fails in comparison to the

    Logitech MX Master 2S

    Wow, it that thing a sweet piece of kit.
  • 0
    I use a Mac work.

    I've completely given up on the Apple mice; my problems with it compounded since I started using a bluetooth earpiece too.

    Have since swapped it for a "wired" solution, and works like a charm!!

    The only thing I miss about the Apple mouse is horizontal scrolling; but I miss the middle-mouse click even more!!
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