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    Alright, since Facebook released a VPN service a little while ago but they're actively advertising it as a secure and privacy friendly service, I felt like - although I'm very busy right now - I should do a security/privacy blog post about this.

    If you even slightly care about your own privacy or the privacy of anyone you're communicating with, for the love of God, don't use this service.

    Hereby a blog post explaining stuffs: https://much-security.nl//...

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    Facebook + VPN + Private.
    Hahahahahaha are you making a joke @linuxxx?

    Oh wait your serious 😱
    Wait, a Virtual Public Network with a gaping big hole in it for tracking and monitoring your every use 🀦‍♂️ please tell me people aren’t this stupid...
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    @C0D4 I wish so badly I was making this up 😩
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    haha for the love of god i love this part.
    also did they make vpn.
    and is anyone really that stupid to use it if they know what a privacy and vpn is /
    sorry my question mark doesnt work on my linux tablet.
    hmm i should fix that because when i log as different user it works properly.
    hmmm will regenerate key layout.
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    @JoshBent @Cyanide and everyone else I'm forgetting, just a heads up ;)
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    facebook should just die already...
    I dont even see the point of using it anymore since whatsapp and things like 9gag
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    @simulate Well, your data is still getting sucked up into Facebook when using WhatsApp!
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    @linuxxx Nice blog post there! Really good!
    One thing though, I really don't like the font you're using. I kind of need to focus a lot more to read it properly :/
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    Get cancer and die, zuck.
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    @aaxa In the beginning the feedback was 50/50 of that font. Now it's a lot more people disliking it so will change it soon :)
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    @linuxxx Ah okay! Sounds good! I find fonts like Raleway (even though it's WIDELY used) a really good font :)
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    lol, I didnt even hear about that yet anywhere, facebook vpn? are they going to try to get chinese people into the social network or just to mine data?
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    @JoshBent Probs the mining data part haha
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    I had to stop reading as got distracted by the casing. Is it Facebook or facebook. And why is google in lowercase but not Instagram and WhatsApp?
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    No VPN is good unless it's HQ is in a country you didn't know existed. Not even ironic this time, local data protection laws really matter when it comes to VPN services and obscure small countries offer some pretty good deals on that.
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    @C0D4 Please don't reference Breitbart. It's like taking your facts from a Russian propaganda network... o wait...
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    @Froot in this case... it’s pretty accurate πŸ˜‚
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    @C0D4 well... Maybe this once πŸ˜„
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    They must be kidding
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    @linuxxx sadly I still use whatsApp πŸ˜₯
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    @linuxxx @C0D4 wait.. the onavo thing is theirs? damn, saw it popping up long time ago all over the internet and the playstores, did they buy them or were they always a branch of facebook?
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    @JoshBent Facebook bought them in 2013 I think it said.
    So this isn’t exactly new news just Facebook being caught out.
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    @C0D4 always thought those data savers will eventually find their way into bigger companies to be abused, because they are not even VPNs, just unsecure proxies, to freely fish through
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    I think 'VPN' has just become a massive buzzword lately so even the layman has heard of it and is vaguely aware it's _supposed_ to increase your privacy online. Facebook I guess is just capitalizing on it. As, really, any smart business would...
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    This is a new level of scamming unaware people... well that’s just sad
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    Facebook owns a VPN service?
    Oh boy, what could go wrong when using that ...
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    @billgates Because I'm tired as fuck and couldn't care less about properly using uppercase/lowercase namings!
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    I guess the only way to stop this mess is by brutally spamming it with false informations?
    Is there a project that just likes, comments and texts random stuff on facebook that i'm not even interested in to make their tracking worthless?
    Guess this would also be good for internet traffic.
    Like creating false traffic on websites and googling something in the background just to make their data collection useless.
    Then you could use their services normally without worrying.
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    @linuxxx o.... yea part of me thought u were drunk again but the other was thinking u were trying to say something...
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    It’s advertised correctly. Not sure what you’re worried about. It’s virtually private, just like it says.
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    Excited to read the new blog from the one and only @linuxxx

    Even the username seems to be encrypted. :P
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    @yamatoman Read the article, it explains everything perfectly!
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    @Root no no no...

    You shouldn't say such things.

    He might be (infact he is) a bad person, but if you speak ill for them, that shows who you are.

    I am sure you are better human than him. Then why curse him and lose respect for yourself over a moron and his moronic work?
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    @Floydian Tbh I'm with her on this one
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    Don't kill zuck yet. Facebook is pushing out some really good open source stuff, wouldn't want to lose that.
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    You are the man πŸ‘
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    @Froot If losing that makes that we get rid of a mass surveillance network, I'd vote for that any day.
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    For me I am run in my own openvpn though it is on a vps in USA I think I need to change my hosting to Europe
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    @linuxxx Our views might differ on this one.

    Though I hate fuckerberg and wish that Facebook shuts down completely with no trace at all. But that does not mean I want him to die a painful death.

    Maybe an instant one should work fine for me :P
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    @gitpush Yes you do haha!
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    @linuxxx sorry boss πŸ˜…
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    @linuxxx Check Riot.
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    @linuxxx but it won't so...
    And their open source web stuff is top notch so I'm grateful for that.
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    VPN is a huge business nowadays, especially since users tend to not realize anymore that it was originally intended to be a solution for enterprises, and not to make you "anonymous" or whatever. So users think that this is the go-to solution to make them "anonymous". Especially the free ones.. Doesn't matter that servers cost money and that the VPN operator can siphon all your data, it's free and therefore it's gotta be good! .. right?
    The thing is, on commercial VPN services (regardless of whether it's free or paid) the VPN connection makes all your traffic pass through their servers (if the server is configured well, some aren't).. Really, the only reason to use a VPN for privacy purposes is to avoid your ISP from collecting your internet usage data.. And instead you entrust the operator of your VPN service with this information.
    As for me, I built my own VPN servers.

    (I'm sure that you already know this, just putting it out there for the people that visit this post who might not)
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    @Froot Honestly, that would probably continue even if Facebook perished.
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    @Floydian If the world had fewer people like that, it would be a better place.
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    @Condor Doesn't self hosted VPN sort of defeat the purpose?

    I use VPN mainly for 2 purposes:
    1) rapidly switching my IP and spoofing my location
    2) hiding my traces

    A self hosted VPN wouldn't good for either of those πŸ˜„
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    @Froot with self-hosted VPN you can have as many IP addresses as you have servers πŸ™‚

    As for the purpose of the VPN, anonymity isn't one of them. In my case, it's more a case of me not trusting my ISP, and the desire to be sure that there's no more logging on the VPN server than I want to occur - hence why I wanted to be its operator. And then there's some other things like being able to put a FQDN as your public hostname - particularly useful in IRC.

    Lastly, the main purpose of VPN servers is to allow servers that are directly connected to the internet without NAT router to be able to virtually create a private network (hence the name Virtual Private Network) that can be accessed through the internet. This allows for certain services to be hidden unless you have established a VPN connection to the server (e.g. my server's SSH daemon is visible to me at 10.8.0.1:22 but it isn't to anyone else because they're not in that network) or for securely logging in to your office network from abroad. So its primary purpose is really for enterprise environments.

    It being able to route all your internet traffic through the VPN server (if set up properly) is really just an added benefit. But for that, you really need to trust the VPN server's operator(s) because *everything* is routed through.
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    @Condor good points, I agree.
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    @linuxxx how does one read your blog post it's asking me to login πŸ™„
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    @shb743 Yeah something is going to shit with the nginx configs (tried to fix it for three hours yesterday) and I won't be able to fix it until I get home tonight 😩
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    @linuxxx oh no worries that's cool
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    Blog is still down @linuxxx.

    I'm eagerly looking forward to reading that.

    Hope you get it up soon!😊
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    @ArchLinux Yeah I fell asleep right before I wanted to start on it haha πŸ˜…
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    I used a vpn at work to bypass the idiotic openDNS service the IT-lead put up... its supposed to filter pornography but it ended up filtering several development tool websites.... however since i used regularily used VPNs he blocked all VPN subdomains so im unable to use any at all now <.<
    (he refuses to remove or modify it stating its for security reasons, and apparently he set up a full packet tracker and sniffer too so 0 privacy now)
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