Once I had to do a 'hands on' pair programming session for a position I applied for... Together with the lead dev we would switch coding every 15 minutes It was somewhat of a horror story...

The assignment was to implement an password reset flow, connecting it to the api and then handling the entire password reset flow, in Angular becahs ye know has to be Angular...

After drafting the ui and setting up the click events, I wanted to hookup the api calls, but then it was time to switch around...

The fucktard dev first started to adjust my classmappings to be more in line with his preference, without touching the css classnames... Ok... Micro managing ... Check...

So after breaking the styles, he wrote the fetches to the api endpoints and that was his 15 minutes of shame...

I continued only to find out the endpoints we were using had errors in them and would not return anything workable...

The dev said he'd tested the endpoint before and it worked, but clearly it didn't...

After about an hour of going back and forth trying to get this to work he got a call from a client because server was down (surprise), he excused himself and had to prioritize on this, running out and leaving me there for the remaining morning ...

I just sat there waiting for the HR checkout talk, only to lean towards rejecting the position...

Fucking waste of time, and in the end the feedback was they doubted MY TECHNICAL SKILLS ... And wouldn't make me an offer 😂👍 nice story bro...

K THX BAI!

Is it normal, or is the HR stalling?

I spoke with the HR and they offered me a job and they’re drafting the offer letter.

1 month later.

They’re still drafting the offer letter.

Do I have to worry about the length of responsibilities that I need to do?

"You can use an eraser on the drafting table or a sledge hammer on the construction site." - Frank Lloyd Wright

After 6 months of work in this startup I gave in my notice yesterday.

- Me: I decided to leave this position as well as this country because: 1. My side business is expanding and Im making the same salary like here, 2. My army drafting got postponed for this year and next year they cannot draft me anymore(because of the age gap), so basically I'm a free man and can go back to my own country, 3. I have some freelance gigs on the side as well, so having them plus fulltime job plus my own side businesses it's not sustainable.

- My project lead: What if we would increase your salary ?

-Me : No, as I said this is purely due to personal reasons

My project lead: What If we would hire another dev so that you wouldn't have to work alone on frontend?

-Me: ......

Seriously do they ever listen??? I'm telling you that I'm making nearly twice the salary that you are paying me, do you really think an extra couple hundred of EUR a month will make a difference?

Observation rather than a rant.

Some of the best, most experienced devs I've ever had the pleasure of meeting and working with have invariably all been the most humble and least opinionated. Mention (x language that might commonly draw disdain) and you don't hear boos and hisses and jokes being thrown around, you hear considered, succinct observations about how, if they were to work with this language, there'd be various coding styles and rules that they'd suggest working to in order to avoid some common pitfalls and frustrations.

Mention a language or framework that they know little about, or heck, they know quite a *lot* about but in which they wouldn't consider themselves an expert, and they're the first to suggest drafting in help. They're more than happy to listen to bring themselves up to speed, even if that "outside help" comes from someone considerably younger and less experienced than them.

This has particularly come to mind as of late as I've found myself working with both ends of the spectrum, but it's been my experience for many years now. Have many others had the same experience?

Gah... Outlook just froze because it can't connect to the mail server.... While I was drafting a long email....

Hope it doesn't crash, hope it doesn't crash.... Please please please...

Half of the courses in my Bachelor of Engineering in IT course was about electronics. They even had chemistry and drafting.

What did they think I'll get a job in? Making silicon chips or writing CAD software?

And they didn't put in Algorithms. And combined Java and web development into one course.

WTF

Collaboratively drafting corporate policy documents. Whee!

Sun blinked today as I was drafting an SDD, who also witnessed that!

Do you 'draft' your code?

I'm just really curious, as I'm not a developer; but I've been doing dev work for the last 8 months...

I just realised today, that 'drafting' my code on paper makes my workflow 10^10 times better and intuitive.
Like, just writing a rough code block with what function I'm going to use and how I'm going to form an equation, etc...

Or do you guys just jump straight ahead and start pushing out code?

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