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Now now, chill. I'm using it as my main OS for a few years now. I know what I'm talking and this title is a bit click-baity, but this just has to go out there:
1. It's usable as a Windows replacement just fine - FALSE. XFCE4 is years old and buggy as hell especially on multi-monitor set-up, Gnome3 gets stuck more often than my Windows 98 machine used to, KDE is like a rich kid on meth. Plug in Bluetooth headphones? Well no, sorry, you have to research that online, since you'll probably need to install some packages for it to work. Did I say "work"? Well no, because after more research you realize that Debian on Gnome3 on gdm3 launches pulseaudio on its own, so you have 2 instances of pulseaudio, and one of them is stealing your headphones sometimes and you either have no sound or shitty sound. How do I know that you ask? The same way I know everything else - every time you try to do something new on any Linux, it involves a ton of research. Exciting research, don't get me wrong, but at this point it looks more like a toy than a reliable desktop computer operating system.
2. And why am I using pulseaudio? Why not alsa? years ago people were discussing on forums that pulseaudio is old and dead, yet here we are with new LTS release of Ubuntu still shining with Pulseaudio. How about several different service management systems being deprecated by new ones, each having different configurations and calling methods? Apparently systemd is old and lame now. It's a mix of 10 year old software that works badly, with a 5 year old replacement that works worse, somehow trying to live under the same roof. Does it work? Ask my headphones who sound like a fucking dial-up modem.
3. Let's talk about displays, shall we? xorg is old and deprecated, right? We got Wayland that's mostly stable. Don't know what that is? That's just basic knowledge for Linux. And when you try to install network-manager, it also tries to install Mir toolkits. Because why the fuck not install 3 display managers when you want a network manager, of which one is old and dying, one is young and stupid, and another is an infant that died of cancer?
4. Want to integrate with Google Drive? Yeah, there's a tool that mounts the drive as a local directory. Yeah only for Ubuntu. Want it on Debian? You need to compile it. Oh wait, it's on Ocaml, because fuck mainstream languages, we're hipsters. How do you compile Ocaml? Well you need to have Ocaml on your system, dummy. How do you do that? Well you need to compile Ocaml. Ok, how do I do that? Well, git clone, download and install some dependencies, configure, make... oh sorry, you're using libssl1.0.2g when you need libssl1.0.1f, nope, sorry, won't work. Want to install libssl1.0.1f? Why? You already have the "g", stupid! Want to remove libssl1.0.2g? Bye-bye literally everything that you have on your PC. But at least you got the "f". Does it work now? Well no, because you need libssl1.0.2g for another dependency to work.
And all I ever wanted was to get a fucking document from google drive (not nudes, I promise).
5. Want to watch a movie? Let me tear that screen in half and make the bottom half late by a couple of frames, because who needs vertical sync, right? Oh you do? Well install the native drivers maybe. Oh you have? Welcome to eternal Boot to Recovery mode, motherfucka!
Yeah, most of the times things work just fine. But the reason I know what those things are and how they work is not curiosity. The reason that I know the inner workings of Linux much better than the inner workings of Windows, is because in those few years that I've been using it full time, it has caused me 10 times more headache than I have ever experienced with other systems. And it's not the usual annoyances like "OMG it rebooted when I didn't ask it to", but more like "Oh, it won't work and I need 2 days to find out why" kind of stuff, because even if you experience the same thing again, it's always caused by some new shit and the old solution won't work any more.
I still love it, and will continue to use it. I don't know why really. Maybe because I'm not afraid of fucking it up any more? Maybe because I can do what I want in it and recovering will be easier than on Windows?
It's a toy for me, after all these years. And I also use it for professional reasons.
But whenever someone presents it as a better alternative to Windows, I just want to puke.51
Not sure what Linux Desktop to use? Use this handy guide:
- GNOME: when you want no tray icons, themes that break every minor GTK release, and extensions for basic features (that are buggy.)
- KDE: pretty go-Segmentation Fault
- DWM/Awesome/i3/etc.: when you feel like the time you spent learning Vim wasn't wasteful enough
- XFCE: when you want one update per decade and poor Systemd support.
- LXQt: the biggest positive is that it doesn't use GTK.
- Cinnamon: when you like GNOME 3 but you want a different menu
- Deepin: when you want a desktop with the build quality of an HP laptop.
Aren't sure whether to use Xorg or Wayland?
- Xorg: if you want to absurdly fuck up your touchscreen, pick this one.
- Wayland: if you want to screw up most of your apps, too bad; this won't work with your proprietary drivers. If only it did.
What distro to use?
- Ubuntu: if you want to break your system with PPAs, check out this one.
- Debian: when you want Ubuntu except with more out of date packages
- Redhat: when you want Debian except with more out of date packages
- ElementaryOS: wait, someone actually made a properly designed Linux UI?
- Arch Linux: the only thing that doesn't make me sick anymore.
- Slackware: "that exists still really?"
- Gentoo: when you hate systemd more than waiting 4 days to compile Firefox on every release.
... I love Linux. I do. But it is very taxing to get things comfortable for me anymore. I feel like the Linux Desktop is in a period of flux and it's painful to be a part of right now.24
Please stop recommending arch. For real. Stop!
Let's back up. I'm an arch user. Have been for years. I love arch! Like hardcore! But for real, cut it out.
Either they didn't ask and you're being obnoxious or they probably asked "what's a good distro to learn?" Or "Ubuntu holds my hand too much, I want something more consoley" either way, arch is not the answer. Arch is a distro for us stuck up types who like spending all day fixing dependency errors, changing our WM every other week, debating the merits of X vs wayland, and acting better than everyone else.
But here's the thing: I found arch because I wanted something that I could compulsively configure and get really in the weeds. I think most arch users feel that way to some degree. You kinda have to if you want to not be miserable. But many Linux users aren't like that. And that's fine! Let them use mint, or Debian. So they never change their DE. Cinnamon is a great interface! Gnome 2 is totally fine! There's literally nothing wrong with being content with sane defaults and not manually installing every package, and having scheduled releases from a stable source.
Do you tell 7th graders "if you really want to get better at algebra, you should try calculus. You really gain a deep knowledge of math!" No! They will get there when they are good and ready! Or not. It's not a beginner distro. In fact (controversial opinion ahead) it's pretty shitty at being a distro. I have used arch for years! But I don't recommend it to anyone. Because if you want to configure a box for literally 100s of hours (it's never really over is it?), Then you aren't asking anyone about distro recommendations. You've tried them all. You've heard of arch. You been to /r/unixporn.
Stop acting better than everyone else and stop telling people it's better than <other distro here>. It's not. It's different. Very different. And it's not for everyone.27
SIR do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior the WINDOWS UPDATE?
"uhm no sorry I'm busy"
*sees a bulldozer in the background*
"what the .."
SIR just let him in your heart and feel his security patches drive your vulnerabilities away!!
"but the rendering hasn't finished ye.."
TOO LATE SIR, green light fellas let's do this
*bulldozer destroys my house and i wake up, sweating*
"Oooh Ubuntu my baby I've missed you soo much!"
*wants to download some YouTube videos in youtube-dl*
$ youtube-dl --a-bunch-of-options
> Can't download this, sorry.
*realizes that Ubuntu probably has an outdated version like usual*
# apt remove youtube-dl
*Realizes that this steaming pile of shit pulled in some icons and Wayland on a headless server*
# apt autoremove
> 300-something MB cleared
For a command-line tool...
# pip install youtube-dl
# apt install ffmpeg
$ youtube-dl --audio-format mp3 -o "%(title)s.%(ext)s" https://youtube.com/playlist/...
> Sorry mate, a video was removed from this playlist! Let me go ahead and shit the bed on this issue that's been reported several times since 6 years ago.
*finds an issue on GitHub reporting this, add -i option to continue on error*
$ youtube-dl --audio-format mp3 -o "%(title)s.%(ext)s" https://youtube.com/playlist/... -i
> There you go, your .webm files as requested!
But.. I requested .mp3 output? --audio-format mp3, don't you see?
> Oh no you need to add in another option to tell me to actually do that first. --extract-audio, you see?
But why.. why do you need to be told that twice? Oh ffs, fuck it.
Reminds me of robocopy. That shit required me to tell it 25 times what to do and it'd still not do it right as well. And you know what, compared to rsync where -avz works 99% of the time, I hate it.7
nVidia, fuck you
Just fuck you!
WHY CAN’T YOU JUST DO LIKE ALL THE OTHER MANUFACTURERS!!
WHY CAN’T YOU JUST PUBLISH OPEN SOURCE DRIVERS THAT WORK WITH MODERN TECHNOLOGICAL STANDARDS AND NOT YOUR OWN PROPRIETARY LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT SOLUTION!!!
ALL OTHER MANUFACTURERS HAVE OPEN SOURCE DRIVERS, AND SOME ARE EVEN MAINLINED IN THE KERNEL!!!
I JUST WANT WAYLAND TO WORK!! FUCK YOU
I’M BUYING AN AMD!!!
Just switched my girlfriend's laptop from Ubuntu 16.04 to Arch. Every single glitch and issue we were having is gone. She's even got some buttery smooth Wayland going.13
So I've been using Antergos Linux as a way to ease myself into Arch.
Gnome apparently has moved to Wayland so I thought "Oh I don't need the Xorg window server anymore, let's just delete the Pacman package for that..."
Oh. Oh crap.
That was a mistake.
...Gnome is gone.
.... Guess I got my excuse to install vanilla Arch.6
I compile mesa from git i said.
Its easy they said.
I compile LLVM from git i said.
Thats easy too they sad.
Too easy ? i said
Yeah they said.
I compile kernel on daily basis from git and thats my only kernel on my daily machine, I compile Wayland, xf86-video-amgpu, gnome-shell, mutter, libdrm, gtk4 and Xorg (IDK why even tho i dont use it) at least twice a week i said.
You are crazy we fucking give up they said.5
Yeasterday i asked a classmate what would be crazy to do.
He said install btrfs on daily machine.
And well today i did. My laptop needed reinstall anyway and so i took the chance and installed Arch on my M.2 SSD which is now btrfs.
And actually its really good and fast. I love it.
And now even boot partition can be on btrfs. FUCK YEAH.
Now just compile latest Mesa, kernel, wayland, linux-firmware and etc. You know to have trylly bleeding edge system. Because i love to live dangerous.13
Why did nobody told me about wayland 1.17 protocols that added middle click paste ???????????????????????????????????
Just WHYYYYYYYYYY ????????
This function is fucking amazing on GNOME.
Just really cool. Learnt about it and cant stop using it. Need to copy something ? 3 finger tap touchpad and to paste it just 3 finger tap again. FUCKING AMAZING.13
Trying out Firefox running native on wayland. And i must say im fucking impressed.
Like really impressed ffs.
3 months or so back it was laggy and just buggy. this is smooth at just awesome to use. Impressive.
Sure there is work needed ofcourse but dammit WOW.1
Just tried Sway. I like it but well it seems that firefox still has some issues with wayland for some fucking reason. Even when i run pure Wayland firefox it still runs videos really poorly on GPU rendering. Chromium runs just amazing. Its sadly not even youtube even other videos have this issue. But chromium is no issue.
This is actually sad since i love Firefox to bits but i may actually switch to Brave due to this.
Firefox FFS fix your crap. For fuck sake its unusable for video watching.
On Xorg its OK tho. I know this isnt Wayland issue due to fact that Chromium runs OK.
This is fucking driving me crazy.
And not only that but FFS GNOME runs like shit on wayland. I mean like pure shit.
When i run sway everything is OK except the Video shit but oh well.
Well it seems that i will have to stay on fucking Xorg.
FFS Xorg die already so development can go torwards our lovely Wayland.12
//Friends made me do this LOL
Haxk20 guide on using arch as pro.
//TL;DR Fucking read it dammit. I cant explain it in few lines.
Go to AUR.
^ are a requirements if you want to have snappy system most of the time.
Do not fucking use AUR helpers. They are shit most of the time and break stuff like LLVM also they are for noobs who cant manage their shit (Really dont use them god dammit)
DO NOT USE PRECOMPILIED VERSIONS OF GIT PACKAGES. NEVER EVER !
Works surely but you can never trust anybody else just yourself (Remember this also for other things. The only person you can truly trust is yourself) Also precompilied shit breaks sometimes.
Run latest commit from mainline. I build every day if i can. If i cant or the mood is not right then once a week is fine.
Update Arch every day. Take care of the system.
I so many times hear Arch is piece of crap and breaks.
No its not. You just cant take care of your god fucking damn system.
If you dont upgrade every day stuff will break and you will be forced to make a force update which is never good (Only if package mantainer says so).
If you cannot take care of the system then arch isnt for you.
And if you still think arch is broken most of the time then see this:
Mesa, llvm, git, linux-next (+ few patches on top of that), xorg, wayland, gnome, firefox-nightly, libdrm and surely many more built from git at least once a week. (kernel and basic stuff built daily mostly) and having testing repos enabled at all times.
The last time i had unbootable GUI was 2 weeks ago and just because i upgraded LLVM without then building mesa. (YES YOU NEED TO DO THAT).
This is beyond bleeding edge as most people say. Yes its crazy but its fucking stable. Whats my point ? that if you say arch is unstable then think of this post and think again before saying. Its stable. You just cant take care of the system.
Restart after kernel update. I cannot say this enough. If you upgrade something low level then either source it. (Most people wont even have clue what that is so then reboot) Or the easiest option. REBOOT.
If you have bug. REPORT IT.
We are in dev community and im suprised most people here wont report bugs.
Are you dumb or what ?
What if your shit had bugs and people wont report them ? They would stay there and frustrate people more and more.
For real. Report bugs you find in kernel or IDK where. Without the report it wont get fixed. And be nice to devs. Dont expect help if you dont provide logs. ALWAYS PROVIDE LOGS.
Also if you run linux then run all AMD system FFS. Nvidia is shit on Linux. The company wont do shit for you. AMD has dedicated devs to opensource drivers. And opensource drivers are on parrity and heck most of the time better then proprietery.
I think thats all.
Sorry but friends made me do it.15
Just fucking amazing. Updated llvm-svn to latest version and what do i fucking get ? Wayland and Xorg broken !
Just fucking fucking fucking amazing.
Now im running the stable version. FFS im Haxk20 i do not run stable versions. This is pure madness. The performance drop is driving me fucking crazy.36
today is a great day i said goodbye to xorg(ohhh i still love you i have spend so many hours with you) and finally said goodbye to chrome on my tablet cause imade firefox to work with touch screed and and im suprised how well wayland is holding so far.13
My performance issue is finally solved. To those who might ever get this bug where GNOME will lag when disconnected from AC power then install gnome-power-manager. I installed it and all the problems went away. GNOME is again smooth as butter. Thanks to @netikras who helped a lot to debug the things.
Hey i can finally switch to wayland since only thing holding me back was the performance loss on battery now i guess it will be OK.1
No x-server, wayland. just drm and framebuffer. use computer just fine in this env. I can watch youtube and video. play music, play twitter, read rss, edit my program, surf a web, connect with other computer, view my image, read pdf with this freaking lightweight env.
Basicly, my super battery saver mode.
(want me to list all of these cli/tui app?)5
Hello from firefox nightly running on pure wayland by default.
Just set env variable and wohoooooooooo. now this feels nice.5
Wooooooow. Now im suprised. You may not know that but i like Xorg so much like really much. And mostly hated Wayland but well i just reseted the config of GDM and it gave me Wayland season and well it feels so fast and snappy. Yeah i see some graphical glitches sometimes here and there but thats to be expected. Gaming still sucks as i remember from early days but other then that i like it so far. I hate to say this but i might actually just switch to Wayland as default on my daily machine (My notebook).7
AMD wip 4.21 branch which is based on latest rc3 boots up totally fine and works flawesly actually. Maybe only issue is wayland black screen when switching GPU but thats OK tbh.
On the other hand the latest rc3 from git from Linus doesnt boot correctly for some fucking reson and starts a start job for 2 services that never fucking end. So now tell me WTF is wrong ????????????????? becasue i have no fucking clue what so ever. Config is OK because i compiled AMD kernel with it and it worked OK but with linus kernel it hangs on that start job. I will try one last fucking thing and that is to use PKGBUILD from AMD and just replace the kernel source with linus one. If that boots correctly then oh shit we have a fucking issue because when 4.20 comes out and Arch will use that fucking PKGBUILD then i woudlnt be able to boot whatever i fucking do.
But its still crazy that AMD kernel works OK.
And its supposed to be more unstable then Linus version. FFS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!4
Development of Mesa 19.0 started few minutes ago and branch for 18.3 was created.
OK some EGL stuff few meson commits and oh fuck Wayland is broken. Xorg still works so its OK.
But yeah i possibly know which commit made it and its probably due to missing few commits hat are still beign reviewed.
Kudos to Fedora for the 32 workstation release. It works as advertised on Lenovo laptops (even the new ones) OOTB, no issues.
Caveats: It's Wayland with Nvidia graphics disabled and has no fingerprint support, but that goes with the territory. Still an arch adherent personally, but it makes the office engineer laptop story significantly easier.
I can't believe it.
Actually getting more fps.
My eyes are not lying. I checked twice to be sure.
And now unredirecting support for 3.38 mutter is in place it will be even more amazing.
What a time to be alive.4
!!rant life toptags bottags
My tags seem to be okay. Let's go.
I'm 14. I live in a place where nobody smart lives, and the school I go to has no coders.
Last year, all my friends moved. The only friend I had left now hates me, simply because they yelled at me everyday and I yelled at them once.
I am in the middle of my exams. I also have the flu, but thankfully it's not the e-flu, otherwise you guys should prepare for 24/7 headaches.
Due to the medications I am taking, I'm half-asleep all the time, and I probably am messing up all of my grades.
My entire extended family is in India, and I go there 2 times a year. I miss them so much right now :(.
At the same as doing exams, I am trying to keep my laptop (primary) and PC (secondary, desk) configuration and setup approximately synchronized. In order to do that, I am setting up my dotfiles repository.
Except that all my laptop config (which works) is written horribly, and I need to rewrite it all.
At the same time, I have 3 other projects going on: An OS written in D, a source-based package management system written in D, a small website (not online), and a whatever's cooking in my mind at this moment.
Right now, I'm supposed to be studying for my French exam.
Instead, I'm here, typing this out on my phone.
I have a classmate in school who can type QWERTY at 80WPM. I'm learning Dvorak (Programmer's!) and my current speed is 33WPM, after about 2 months of half-hearted practise during work time and at school.
Sometimes, I look at the world we have here, and what we're doing to it, and I wish that sometimes we could simply be content with life. Let's just live, for once.
I find ~60 random songs in one go, simply by finding a song I know on YouTube and going to the 'Mix - <song>' playlist. I download them all (youtube-dl), and I listen to them. Sometimes, I find this little part in a song (Mackelmore & Ryan Lewis - Can't Hold Us beginning instrumentals, or Safe and Sound chorus instrumentals) that make me feel so happy I feel like all's good in the world. Then the song moves on and with it, my happiness.
I look at Wayland, and X, and I think - Why can't we have one way of doing things - a fixed interface to express anything, so that one common API exists for everything of that type? And I realise it's because they feel that they're missing something from the others. Perhaps it's a bug nobody's solved or functionality that's missing, and they think that they can do better than that. And I think - Well, that's stupid. Submit a fucking bug report or pull request instead of reinventing the wheel. And then I realise that all the programming I've ever done in my life IS simply reinventing the wheel. And some might say, "Well, that guy designed it with spokes and wood. I designed it with rubber and steel," but that doesn't work, because no matter what how you make it, it's just a wheel. They both do the same thing. Both have advantages and disadvantages, because nothing's perfect. We're not perfect because we all have agendas and wants and likes and dislikes and hates and disgusts and all kinds of other crap, and our DNA's not perfect because it manages to corrupt copy operations (which is basically why we die of old age, I think).
And now I've lost my train of thought and this is too large to scroll over so I'm just going to move on to the next topic. At this point (.), I have 1633 letters left.
I hate the fact that the world's become so used to QWERTY because of stuff that happened 100 years ago that Dvorak is enough of a security to stop most people from being able to physically use my laptop.
I don't understand why huge companies like Google want to know about me. What would you do with this information? Know how to take over my stuff when the corporation-opocalypse comes around? Why can't they leave me alone? Why do I have to flash a ROM onto my phone so that Google cannot track me? What do you want, Google?
I don't give a shit any more, so there's my megarant.
Before anybody else (aside from myself) tells me that this is too big, all these topics are related simply because my train of thought went this way. There's a connection between each of these things, but I just don't know what it is.
Goodnight, world. 666 is the number of characters I have left. So is 42, for that matter (thanks, Douglas Adams!). Goodbye.4
Well IDK if it was possible but i just found out it is. Resident Evil 2 remake is black screen for me on X11.
I just for fun tried Wayland and to my fucking surprise it ran very well. Heck above 45fps on very high settings. Now that i call a nice surprise. Now just for that nasty firefox wayland bug where full screen videos get a black bar at the top and it will be for sure that i will use it as default.4
Today I tried running Plasma Wayland again after a few months...well...I tried
What did I experience?
- Mouse cursor size jumping from small to big randomly
- Can't remember fucking window positioning between multiple workspaces, so when I reboot, all windows are in the last workspace
- Random freezes with external monitor plugged in
- Firefox scrolling is absolutely terrible, 5 fps at most, but only when external monitor is connected
- Mouse acceleration can't be completely turned off? Or the setting just didn't work? IDK
- Sometime I get the infamous window trail effect known from older Windows versions, but on mouse cursor4
Sircmpwn's sway wm, an i3 clone for Wayland, I love i3 but I'm also an advocate for the ditching of xorg. (Close to beta)
Honorable mention for anbox which tries to do a similar thing Google is doing to run Android apps natively in Linux. (Alpha)4
Anyone a wine user?
I want to completely shake off Windows so I'm thinking of trying it again...
Has anyone tried it with a 970m + Wayland?5
Up until now, I never had any breaking updates on Linux on my laptop, Except for Nvidia drivers stopping. It would switch to noveau. Even my cobbled together hack of Broadcom Bluetooth solution worked without even having to touch it. Well, I still don't have problems with core Linux but add gnome to the issue mix today. Surprisingly, Nvidia drivers for the first time Nvidia drivers upgraded (to 340) and I didn't had to do anything for it to work. Gnome deprecated synaptics driver support and now uses libinput implementation for it. Well Ubuntu Gnome updater won't clean the configuration and I had to remove the driver and clean config myself. Nothing too much, i have to deal with these stuff on my arch installation but Ubuntu has been "it works fine. No need to interfere" thing for me. It works fine on Wayland (it always used libinput on Wayland a if I am correct) but nvidia drivers doesn't support Wayland. And then since the update gnome has been disabling some of my extensions at random. All on X. I have no problems with Wayland except for Nvidia fucking drivers. All that said, its still better than windows where I lost fucking network connectivity during something important. And the trackpad drivers on Linux are somehow much better than anything I have used on windows. (that or Sony made fucking great trackpads and nobody noticed). Here's to hoping Nvidia starts supporting drawing on Wayland and I can ditch X completely. I have seen visible improvements in performance under load and slight decrease in battery usage with Wayland.9
It's really strange to me that display servers/window managers (Xorg, Wayland, etc) aren't locked to given desktop environments (GNOME, KDE, Unity, Cinnamon, etc). It doesn't make sense to me that they are separate and not optimized together.2
I was about to have a screenshare presentation of a month-long work over Skype...
Hours before the presentation I got bored and upgraded from Xorg to Wayland for some reason the universe doesn't want to disclose...
Tried to call a friend to check if everything is working and the screenshare feature was missing! 😑 I thought Skype fucked up, tried Hangouts, still not working, tried praying to saint Ubuntu to somehow please let it work one time. It did fucking not.
My gosh, 30 minutes before the presentation and I was preparing the whole environment on Windows. I had never felt so stressed in my life! 😰
Investigating after the presentation informed me that screensharing only works on XOrg, not on Wayland.
Worst last-minute decision ever. *#-##-:$;"+3($(!#@/)#9"+(2(#2
I just got my first 17in laptop. It's a dell XPS 9700. I wiped it and installed Arch Linux within minutes of unboxing! lol. I just finished and we're at 6 hours from delivery (4 hours of beer drinking and) 2 hours of config later, I'm posting on devrants. Everything but the audio and nvidia graphics worked OOTB. I'm still working on getting nvidia prime working on Wayland. Tips welcome!5
Here's a question. Should i go Wayland with Weston or stick with X? I'm setting up Arch Linux as a webserver, probably with Cinnamon. Won't do much else with it.12
Let's be real a second, hiDPI and multiple DPI display support on GNU/Linux (xorg) sucks.
It apparently has better support through Wayland but I hate gnome3 (does KDE implements Wayland? don't really care I don't like it too, way too heavy)2
Following are the only real problems I had with my XFCE Manjaro (I guess essentially XFCE problems). My question is, is it just me?
The synaptics deprecation kinda f'ed me up.
I tried sticking to synaptics, but I had an issue where if I connected a usb mouse the touchpad would sometimes stop working (it's deprecated after all).
So I switched to libinput. The default movement feels good (synap felt kinda slippery)... but then... NO COASTING/KINETIC SCROLLING in a lot of apps? WTF?!
Would kinetic scrolling work in general if I switched to a wayland based DE?
The alt tab has a delay:
you would expect one of the most lightweight DEs to have near instant switching. But no, I have like almost full second delay, and for the life of me I can't find the way to customize it.
Thr battery management is kinda stupid. Even though I set the thing to hibernate or sleep in low battery it never does.
Stupid licensing issue.
I have a licensing question/problem.
I'm porting Lemonbar (the fancy GNU/Linux X11 statusbar) to D (which is awesome imo).
I'm adding Wayland functionality and since D is part of the C syntax family some code is just about exactly the same (the XCB libs are protocol-generated external imports).
Also, the X-specific parts are in a specific file.
What do I license the project against? My own license (I prefer Apache) or Lemonbar's? What about the X-specific file?
BTW, it's a full rewrite using the same concepts, object-orienting the whole thing.2
Arch switch update: after a day I still haven't gotten past sddm. KDE won't start on either X or Wayland with no logs in sight. Everything worked in VB.1
Since there are so many Arch users, what kind of desktop environments are you running? I've been running Gnome3/Wayland and it's awesome, although I get a bit of screen tear, but it's tolerable.4
Is anyone using Wayland with KDE-Plasma environment already? I'm still waiting for this to work on my laptop. X doesn't support multi-monitor scaling which I desperately need
Okay, so debian is just fucked by default then.
Created a Debian 10 persistence stick, and I'm having the fucking xorg issues ("No screens detected", xrandr says the same) i've had every fucking time i've installed debian, except a simple round of dpkg-reconfigure isn't fixing it this time.
- dpkg-reconfigure <every package even remotely related>
- X -configure
- installing all firmware from linux-firmware repo
- reinstalling everything remotely related (with both reinstall and purge/install)
- Wayland ("failed to create compositor backend")
- creating my own xorg configs and driver-radeon configs and all that shit with my screen explicitly defined
- remaking the stick with a redownloaded ISO
- actually installing it to a HDD first
- crying in frustration
- different monitors
- someone else's machine (both AMD GPUs, mine's an R9 380, his an RX 3-digit something-or-other)
- an NVIDIA card (other tester threw his old 1080TI in his PC, set up all the drivers and shit, and nothing fucking changed)
what is this, Fedora?3