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I. FUCKING. HATE. MOBILE. DEVELOPMENT.
I already manage the data, devops, infra, and most of the backend dev.
We had a mobile guy. He was great. I never had to think about it and kept moving quickly on my work. #SpecializationOfLaborFTW
He left. Why? Because they wouldn't give him a small raise despite being one of the best mobile engineers in the firm. WTF.
I made the mistake of picking up just enough slack on this workflow in the interim such that I'm, apparently, the fucking god-damned release manager, fixer of pipelines, fixer of build configs, fixer of anything where someone just needs to RTFM for a half-hour to not fucking break things.
Now, 8 months later...and, apparently, Fortune 500 companies are too fucking god-damned cheap to pay for someone who actually knows WTF they're doing for a very reasonable thing to have at least one dedicated set of eyes for.
I never wanted to be a mobile dev.
I never will want to be a mobile dev.
And I certainly don't want to manage your HALF-FACE-FUCKED detached expo configs.
There's a reason I never intentionally involved myself in mobile. All the way down, it's just shitty cross-compilation, transpilation, dependency-hell, brittle-as-fuck build processes so we can foot-gun and mouth-gun react-native and expo and babel and whatever the fuck else cargo-culted horseshit into the wild.
And why? What's the actual fucking root cause? The biggest white elephant that ever fucking elephant-ed? It's because Apple and Google decided to never collaborate on a truly-native cross-platform SDK--where engineers could write native code that compiles to native binaries that's simply write-once, run-everywhere. They know they could have done that, and they didn't. So what'd they get back? Expo--a too-cleverly-designed backdoor/hack--more-or-less a way to circumvent the sane release process software has usually followed: code -> executable -> deploy. Or code -> deploy (for interpreted langs). Expo's like "keep your same executable, we're just gonna to do updates by injecting new code into it whenever we want". Didn't we learn anything with web? Shit gets messy real quick? Not to mention: HEY EXPO, WE WERE ALREADY BUILDING NATIVE APPS, YOU SHORT-SIGHTED FUCKS. THANKS FOR LURING OUR CTOs INTO FORCING EXPO DOWN OUR THROATS W/ THE IMPLICIT (BUT INCORRECT) TOO-GOOD-TO-BE-TRUE PROMISE THAT WE CAN HAVE WRITE-ONCE, RUN-ANYWHERE WITHOUT ANY BUY-IN OR COOPERATION FROM THE ACTUAL TARGET PLATFORMS.
And, we just, like, accept this? We all know it's garbage engineering. The principles we learned in the classroom aren't just academic abstractions--they actually yield real-world results--and eschewing them yields real-world failures. Expo is tightly-coupled to high-heaven, with leaky abstractions six-ways-to-christmas, chock-full of foot-guns, and fails the most basic test of quality: does it, "just work?"
Expo is fucking shameful and it should fucking die. Its promises are too bold, its land-mines too many, its future-proof-ness is alway, always, always questionable as fuck and a risk to every project that uses it.
You want a rant? This is my fucking venue, 'tis not? Well, then this is a piss and vinegar rant straight from my blood-red, beating fucking heart:
EXPO FUCKING SUCKS. AND IF YOU'RE A FAN, YOU FUCKING SUCK TOO.27 -
Unexpected expo, so i made a fast project using Conway's Game of Life Cellular Automata. Turns out only me doing things like this. Comparison on comment.
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Ooohhh I feel GDPR is seriously kicking in. And frankly I like it :)
just minutes ago a spanish photographer asked me if he could take a photo of me and use it in his expo. The photo thing took like half a minute, but we spend another 10 minutes on explanations, documentations and signing of aggreements.
Poor photographer. But I love that I know what exactly is going to happen with my portrait and my email :)
go GDPR!8 -
seeing these things make me very uncomfortable, I feel like reaching into the software and wiping it off, makes me wonder how much of a mess this npm ecosystem is going to become, I really dont know much of how these things work. I figured the issue could probably be the same across languages, libraries sitting atop libraries until the whole thing becomes unmanageable. I'll stop rambling now
that's the installation of expo-cli
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So when our campus expo happened, I immediately went to the apps I critiqued last time when I was a a panel judge in the IT dep’s oral defence. Fair enough, this happened:
- The app I failed (the tilting avoid boxes shit app) actually got optimized and got the first time user tutorial I was looking for. I was short of relieved of them listening and kept going despite me failing them (props to the girl btw)
- Second app was the same as before but added my recommendations, nonetheless still a good app
I am nothing short of amazed they actually listened to me so I think that’s a win for my part1 -
Who here is programming with React Native and is crying about it?
It's so volatile. Shit it has done so far:
- Randomly changed my IP location that it serves to and npm start that shows the welcome information keeps the old IP address, so I spent way too long trying to figure out why it wasn't working.
- Constantly having to rm -rf the node modules and npm i them because Expo randomly starts loading so slowly that you want to scream.
- Downgrading my react-native-scripts version in the package.json because it hangs forever on the starting packager.
- I also had to downgrade my expo dependencies because during one of my node module reinstalls, it would update the version and apparently Expo is incompatible with its own updated version.
And now I'm randomly getting an error that's apparently a known bug in one of the react dependencies and now I have to downgrade that as well.
Just. Why.9 -
In a react-native code camp right now and troubleshooting participants install took 30% of the time 😂😂😂😂2
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Can someone tell me why the ios expo client has alcohol tobacco and drug use in it? I get it that devs are overworked but damn. Even this app??
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React Native developers:
Is it normal for the Expo app to suddenly go blank and stop working for no apparent reason, without showing any errors or logging anything? It happens all the time since I started using it and it's extremely frustrating2 -
When you’re working on a React-Native app and decide to remove a library, don’t accidentally type a space instead of a hyphen when trying to remove something like ‘react-native-svg’. Xcode/expo get super mad when you remove react-native.2
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Could access every website but github.com “all of a sudden”...exp stopped working npm was broken...macs are so stupid then.....
I dumbed....it was all my fault. </duh>
Yesterday I blocked my kids’ access to the internet .. and just blocked the IP4 access of my mac. What a genius. It appears github (and not other sites) requires IP4 whereas most now use IP6. -
Is told to make a cool football themed board for a planning expo.
Thinks football is stupid, but makes an awesome board with a built in football game made with a Raspberry Pi and optical sensors to detect when you throw a ball through the hole.
Boss tells me that my board doesn’t match the theme and doesn’t even mention the fact that what I made was cool as fuck.
Have to trash the board and make something lame with construction paper footballs instead.
My soul is dead. Business people are such fucking children who punish creativity and reward mediocrity. I need to find a company run by developers.1 -
!rant
I suppose it's about time I get started on doing some react native stuff.
Expo seems like a great place to start.
https://expo.io3 -
After many years, I am trying to learn to react and react-native again.
I went to react native and click on get started. I downloaded CRNA and created Hello World. It asked me to download Expo client.
I was like WTF is this expo? So I installed it on my Note 8 and run the app. This is awesome. I don't have to build the whole app. It did not require Android SDK.
I open the expo website and found lots of SNACKS by other people. I can see the live output of many libraries and I loved the whole thing.
Finally, I installed the Expo client on my iPad. There was no scan barcode option. I thought it was weird. I saw login option. So naturally, I log in and wait for it to show in Expo client. Still nothing.
Finally, google about it and found out that due Apple, I can not see other people example on expo anymore.
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Holiday times. Let's finally try out building an app with react native. Download expo-cli. Scaffold project........
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...following on from a post below (by @TobyAsE) about meeting up in London - Anyone in Berlin between 8th and 12th October? I’m heading to the IFRA Expo (http://www.ifra-expo.com/home.html) and would be great to see a bit of the city if anyone’s free n’ just want to kick back with a beer!
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First time using Expo in an already built React Native project. Good thing makes project lighter and easier to work with on slow devices.
However:
Bye bye Gradle build
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I was trying to build this AWESOME react native application.
1. install npm and react native [3 min]
- oh wait install yarn [about 10 min]
- how about expo 1 min
- and install expo on my phone [ 1min]
2. create a react native app
umm install pod [10 min]
run npm ... figure failures and stuff [20 min]
it's been almost 1 hour now and I forgot what I was building.2 -
Anyone use expo for react and if so what has been your experience?
Because I keep on hearing good things about it and in just curious.1 -
Anyone tried to develop react native with expo-cli inside of a Docker container?
I'm having trouble getting the livereload to work :/3 -
Ugh I was looking into React Native Expo and build an app fairly quicky, everything was going well! I just finished a poc and wanted to build it. Well I have build two times before on Expo Cloud. Took like 10 minutes in total. I submited my build and bam 2 hours free plan queue. Motherfuckers! Sucking my dick for the first 2 builds and than asking for the money. When I want to have priority queue I have to pay 99$ per month or 1$ per build wtf is that?? See I get that I should not have expected much from this free service but be upfront with me pls.
Than I tried building the app locally on my MacBook but ofcourse that's always a pain in the ass and after staring at an error for half an hour and trying to fix it with minimal google search results, I gave up for now. Now I'm looking at the fucking downtime timer of 60 minutes before my mini app get's build and oh if it fails I'll have a mental breakdown -
Yesterday there was a DevOps event in my office. I had developed an Android and iOS app for the same. Basically the idea was along with things like Agenda for the day, speak and partners information, the app could scan QR of expo booths. If a user visits all booths he is eligible for lucky draw prizes. It ended up being really awesome event. Global heads were really impressed by tech and innovation from India. And in the end, there were 5 lucky draws, and I won JBL truly wireless headphones😆😆
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Thoughts about using React Native with Expo for apps? Recently started working on a dashboard app, have made few screens already, looking for some pointers.2
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I am stuck!!
I don;t even how to write :(
I mean does anyone have shit talk about android studio ? Anyone?
I have to work with android studio or so but I am feeling very lazy to get it installed and setup. I am working with expo and I was so happy that simple React native is working!! But now for few libraries I have to installed android studio They wont work simply with expo go :(
I am thinking will it be worth to go through with these installation and setup.. :(
Thank god!! this is my own work so I can search and do my best in research avoiding installation. But I feel like if I have to work with mobile apps sooner or later I have to install proper setup, Wish there is a way I am searching for solution since morning and no luck yet :)
Will search in night too2 -
Expo works like shit. Sometimes it reloads on code changes, sometimes it doesn't. It can't wait for me to accept USB debugging on my virtual android device so I need to hit connect button twice. I just got "Error: null". Sometimes it downloads the package to 100% then does nothing. Sometimes it doesn't even attempt to unless I forcefully kill it and start again. Fuck this shit.
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