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Tl;Dr: People who make coffee their entire personality and people who do those shitty "if tired == true: drinkCoffee" type posts really annoy me.

Can I just say how much I fucking hate "rants" like these in my fucking feed?
No hard feelings to the poster, I'm sure you're a lovely person, and this rant is directed towards so many more people on this platform and not just you but oh my fucking god people who say this type of shit make me so fucking bored.

Like, yes, you want to drink coffee, that is a completely normal and basic thing for people who need energy. Drink some fucking coffee and be done with it then, instead of ranting about it on your shitty ass online profile where literally everybody-fucking-else is in the exact same boat as you.

You're not special, you're not interesting because you want to drink coffee, you are literally consuming liquid, that is quite possibly the most primitive and basic thing you can do, why the fuck should I care about your shitty ass caffeine addiction, as if it somehow represents your entire fucking personality?

It's almost like you people think drinking coffee is a fucking developer-only thing now, like no, people actually just drink coffee normally, yet still all I fucking see is "haha look guys I'm a coder I drink coffee aren't I just so original", it's like a fucking coffee cult.

I don't need to hear about your fucking caffeine addiction, I could bet the majority of people on this platform are the same way. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing wrong with coffee or even a caffeine addiction but people who feel like it somehow fucking defines them are so fucking annoying it is unbelievable.

It's almost like a circlejerk of coffee-drinkers at this point, like "haha guys we all drink coffee because we're TIRED haha it's FUNNY guys PLEASE LAUGH".

And that brings me onto another thing, although it's somewhat more justified considering the theme of the platform. This entire place feels like a fucking circlejerk of programming.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no elitist, I'm quite possibly the least skilled person on this site, honestly, but the amount of people who make those shitty-ass "if tired == true: drinkCoffee" type posts confuse me so much. You throw together some broken Python code in like 7.2s referencing how you need sleep or you code all night or some shit and people eat that shit up like it's their fucking religion, like what the fuck?

It's somewhat more excusable since the site itself is based around developers but jesus christ it annoys me for this exact reason, like yes, you can "code". Most of us can. It's why we're here, for fuck sake.

Sorry for such a long rant, if you've gotten this far, I want to say both Thank You and Sorry.

Meta.

I miss the old devRant. I truly miss it and I came back thinking it was still the same.

Back in days the community was closely knitted and everyone used to interact with everyone else.

Everyone welcomed new members warmly and people engaged with community as soon as they landed here.

The conversations were deep and meaningful. The collabs actually worked.

Alice used to comment everywhere and people loved her, how Alex used to be always pissed and many such countless memories.

People used to rant. No stupid stuff in feed. Josh writing scripts and I finding ads and then everyone going supporter mode to fund dR.

I made friends here. I used to call this place my digital home.

And then it went downhill. Crap in feed from r/ProgrammerHumour. No rants. People getting busy and I quit eventually.

I came back after a year only to see handful of you left. Good to see a lot of new members though.

However, the community interaction is near zero these days (expect for old bunch who keep interacting like C0D4, Jilano, Stuxnet, and Root).

Rants don't exist now. Some users are highly highly toxic and not contributing positively at all. Fuck your egoistic ass.

No fancy trends of copying each others avatar and requesting Tim to get us new Raven. Or having face reveal threads.

David being active all the time and we all showing off our stickers and squishy balls.

Fun times. How much I fucking miss that.

Neither people now are helpful nor supportive. I miss old community and culture of devRant.

The charm has been lost. The home is empty with most family members are away.

Fuck the new toxic delicate culture here and get me back the old days.

Can we stop the undifferentiated EU bashing already?
Yes, the copyright law changes suck, we get it.
But: The EU itself is not a bad thing. Millions of people profit from it by having a common currency, freedom of choice where to travel to, where they want to work without needing a visa, and many, many more things.
Appreciate that.
Thanks for your time, have a nice day.

Sadly to say, but devrant is slowly moving away from dev part of its name, even rant part.

More I see posts about this tech sucks vs that tech sucks. That being annoying, would be fine, not for me, but fine.

The worse part are the memes. Repost memes, not funny, though, maybe funny to some, still no effort reposts.

Even worse are posts that have nothing to do with dev. Like recent post about soldiers and gay people (maybe you saw it). Why the hell post it here?

Going down are the ++ beggers, sadly I see even more of them.

Yes I understand I can just leave this platform.
I just wanted to express these mixed feelings I have been getting for my once favorite place to read about other devs experience.

<meta-rant>

Am I the only dev who gets bugged when I see the common "a semi-colon just cost me 45 minutes!" joke, or similar?

Any modern IDE or text editor will show you syntax errors immediately, and even if they didn't you can usually resolve them in under a minute.

This is more like bad dev insults.

It's 21:42. I had 1 month to write a report on my internship. Day after tomorrow is submission. I'm starting now.

I deleted Facebook Inc.'s products long time ago, deleted YouTube app, removed Quora account, put filters on suggestions for Stack Exchange networks, blocked Reddit, stopped Spotify, started Trello/Wunderlist/Evernote to organise thoughts, ForestApp and StayFocusd for controlled browsing, deleted Tumblr etc. All this just to focus on the report and get it done as soon as possible.

Now I FOUND devRant! What the fuck world! Why!? I'm now ranting about issue on devRant with this rant. <- this sentence is a meta, if you didn't realise.

"No time for implementing a new alert with buttons, so the radio buttons' one should do for now..."

I'm not a huge fan of the idea of this place becoming a Q&A for code...
I mean that's what Stackoverflow is for.
I came here for good Rants and occasional memes.

// meta rant
I promise you'll get more ++ if you take a screenshot rather than a picture with your phone. Please - it's not difficult.

I can't read your screen on an awful blurry photo with scan lines.

!rant

I promoted duckduckgo to friends on Facebook and got them in a discussion about it. People generally are fairly receptive (with one annoying uncle pointing out the irony of posting it on Facebook xD).

One mentioned it was difficult to switch because Google was "just there", so I pointed to instructions on how to make it default.

Also enticing them with theme changes.

Feels good. Next to teach them how to use proxies :p

meta rant: I categorised this as a rant/story, mainly because it is related to tech, should I have just done "random"?

Lately ive noticed that 90% of rants is "heres this thing that would come up in the first 3 lines of any documentation but instead of that, im gonna rant about it"

The other 10% is meta rants like this and the last 5% is from people who are bad at maths.

!rant #meta: I registered just yesterday and woke up this morning with 44 notifications, which is great because this community is obviously refreshingly active, plus I really love getting notifications. Nevertheless, is it really necessary to create an individual notification for EVERY SINGLE +1?! Dear devRant devs, I love what you're doing. But please, PLEASE, merge/group these notifications into just a few. I don't want to go through every single one of these, it's just cluttering my notification list. I always just clear the list and then use the in-app bell symbol to navigate to whatever item I'm interested in. I can't be the only one.

Sometimes when I read a rant I upvote one of it's comments. But then I feel like it's unfair for the ranter that a commenter has a ++ and he hasn't, so I upvote the rant too.

My creativity blackout is so great that I don't even know what to rant about.

Meta-rant: rants that have more tags than words.

I sometimes feel my rants are underrated

(Hopefully this is the meta rant to kill meta rants)

I'm fucking sick of devrant.

New users posting shit memes with the wrong tags.

But worse are old users complaining about said new users, or just beginner devs from other sites

Yes, some people need stack overflow every 5 minutes.
Not everyone has the capacity to understand every documentation.
Not every documentation is updated or entirely correct.
Not everyone has more than a year or two of experience.

Don't be part of the dumb circlejerk. Just complain about your bullshit boss, coworker or tech.

[meta-rant]

I don't get all of the OS hate here. Like, computers, and the variety of environments in which users use them, are our job. In my mind, Linux is popular, Windows is popular, macOS is popular—if I want to make it as a developer, shouldn't I understand how all three work and how to make them work for me?

When I read stuff here, I feel like there are people here who would think less of me because of what OS I prefer. That sentiment is kind of bothersome.

Plebs be using IG, FB & Snapchat.
Then ranting about its full of shit.

Maybe they ain't so pleb but in development. Still don't get why someone would hate themselves to make such media their main.

meta:
I wish the main tag (rant, joke/meme, etc) is separated from the added tags

Meta devRant rant:
Everyday there's a rant that reads, "I don't care what others think but I love me some PHP because all the $ gets me $$$, it just works™!"

Why is it that virtually all new languages in the last 25 years or so have a C-like syntax?

- Java wanted to sort-of knock off C++.
- C# wanted to be Java but on Microsoft's proprietary stack instead of SUN's (now Oracle's).
- Several other languages such as Vala, Scala, Swift, etc. do only careful evolution, seemingly so as to not alienate the devs used to previous C-like languages.
- Not to speak of everyone's favourite enemy, JavaScript…
- Then there is ReasonML which is basically an alternate, more C-like, syntax for OCaml, and is then compiled to JavaScript.

Now we're slowly arriving at the meat of this rant: back when I started university, the first semester programming lecture used Scheme, and provided a fine introduction to (functional) programming. Scheme, like other variants of Lisp, is a fine language, very flexible, code is data, data is code, but you get somewhat lost in a sea of parentheses, probably worse than the C-like languages' salad of curly braces. But it was a refreshing change from the likes of C, C++, and Java in terms of approach.

But the real enlightenment came when I read through Okasaki's paper on purely functional data structures. The author uses Standard ML in the paper, and after the initial shock (because it's different than most everything else I had seen), and getting used to the notation, I loved the crisp clarity it brings with almost no ceremony at all!

After looking around a bit, I found that nobody seems to use SML anymore, but there are viable alternatives, depending on your taste:

- Pragmatic programmers can use OCaml, which has immutability by default, and tries to guide the programmer to a functional programming mindset, but can accommodate imperative constructs easily when necessary.
- F# was born as OCaml on .NET but has now evolved into its own great thing with many upsides and very few downsides; I recommend every C# developer should give it a try.
- Somewhat more extreme is Haskell, with its ideology of pure functions and lazy evaluation that makes introducing side effects, I/O, and other imperative constructs rather a pain in the arse, and not quite my piece of cake, but learning it can still help you be a better programmer in whatever language you use on a day-to-day basis.

Anyway, the point is that after working with several of these languages developed out of the original Meta Language, it baffles me how anyone can be happy being a curly-braces-language developer without craving something more succinct and to-the-point. Especially when it comes to JavaScript: all the above mentioned ML-like languages can be compiled to JavaScript, so developing directly in JavaScript should hardly be a necessity.

Obviously these curly-braces languages will still be needed for a long time coming, legacy systems and all—just look at COBOL—, but my point stands.

!rant is a logic operator, right? As in NOT rant. So why do I so often see them on actual rants?
And for that matter, who cares? If there's a [Read More] tag, you'll click if you want, regardless.
Why is this a thing?

!(!meta-rant)
Some question for ya creators

What was the first 10 rants here?

How many users are in devRant? (including ghost usernames)

Server costs how much in a day?

How did ya guys met together?

P.S. I remember you two had a building with the devrant logo in the top. Where is the location? (@trogus)

!rant

Thank you devRant for making my procrastinstion time more enjoyable!

<meta-rant>
Jesus DevRant, at least confirm before reporting a rant! Now I feel sorry for reporting something I just wanted to mute...
</meta-rant>

Factually incorrect is the same as spam right? Okay maybe not, but that's how I justify a down vote sometimes...

Go meta and ask what would be a good future weekly rant prompt.

<meta-rant>
Kind of surprising to see how many people here learned to program while under 18 (like me) instead of from a traditional college. Curious if that affects anyone else's choice to go to college.
</meta-rant>

markdown is not good enough! the tools aren't there for non-devs and there's no concordance on moving forward *compatibly* for anything other than headers and __possibly__ lists.

md has been around for years and still no consensus on comments, meta data, css, data imports, etc.

i could never in good faith recommend to a non-dev to use markdown, even though every academic and professional writer from legal to journalism should exclusively be using markdown to write and store their documents. the data portability and ease of search, retrieval, collection, distribution, etc of markdown compared to pdf or docx is enormous. markdown is the hex format of text, the perfect layer of data and visual so that the user and the computer can both operate on text as blocks of data rather than weirdly styled paragraphs that need to be reformatted BY HAND for citation-style or journal format, or paper size. FOR EACH SUBMISSION. Academics literally rewrite their 100-page papers to accommodate up to 10 different submission requirements.

They could be clicking MLA vs Chicago and/or using a journal's stylesheet to recompile for its styles.

Today there is some support from zotero et al to take away some of the pain, but it makes ZERO SENSE for writers to have to keep and store and keep up to date, multiple versions of the same document. Git pull does not exist for them. But the worst part is that git isnt the solution to their problem. They need a compiler more than they need version control. But they also desperately need vcs. They ALL literally have a million files named "dumdum.dumFINAL-3084_lastversion \2020, this one.dum".

They dont have git or anything like it, because they need a line-by-line solution like markdown for git to become effective.

All of writing is basically mired in the fact that people cant even roll up their paragraphs and see what the fuck it is theyre saying. Most writing reads like a long scroll through some nonsense that goes nowhere. Like this rant. but the point is that markdown and line-by line editing actually produces more logically sound writing. You start to think in terms of defining ideas in blocks, ... like code.

Wanting to have an avatar but not enough points....

!rant

Interview on Monday. Buzzing! The company is pretty cool, they have a startup buzz but part of a wider umbrella of businesses so don't suffer from the financial uncertainty that destroyed my last company (that and my old boss was pretty clueless about everything except sales). They also give time for personal projects, allow remote working, bonuses if the company does well and provide its employees transparency to its finances.

In short, I'm not going to be a cog in a big corporate wheel. If I get this.

Well they liked the code I produced for their programming test, so good start.

Meta: categorised this as rant because it's tech related, but obviously it's not a rant, what's the protocol? Random?

META-RANT INBOUND!!! :

Why doesn't this app support multiwindow mode on Android?!

I SEE. RANTING IN ALL CAPS. GETS YOU MORE ++

GODDAMNSIT when you have a perfectly good rant to rant but it’s long and it’s a pain to write on a mobile and devRant DOESN’T HAVE A REAL SITE

I get frustrated about the shitty work I'm forced to do to meet useless deadlines or follow meaningless ever changing consultant ideas.

I write a rant.

People in devrant suggest me best practices, solutions, tools, even technical steps.

I write this meta-devrant.

Devrant refuse to add more than 1 rant every 2 hours.
Fuck.

Two nights ago I was in full rant mode but when I tried posting the second rant, the app said I had to wait two hours. Now I've forgotten most of my rant topics from that night .-.

I've started down voting reports so that the poster knows they have a repost, and so it leaves my feed. Does that make me a horrible person, or just not very new user friendly?

Dear people who rant about it her people's rants and claim a part of you dies. Stfu and get over it.

Now look at what you've done. You've got me ranting about you ranting about other people's rants. So meta

Guys. Tags are separated with a comma. Think twice before submitting a rant.

When same dev keeps IM-ing me to rant... Dude, that's what devRant is for!

@dfox must have known asking what the worst thing about being a dev is would get far more responses than asking what the best thing is.

Rant about other people ranting about people ranting about Microsoft/GitHub, you really need to stop telling people about what they're allowed to rant about, your rants about other people's rants are taking over devRant and it's annoying as hell!
We get it, you're against people ranting about certain topics, but at some point you've got to move on.

(How meta can we get?)

So is ranting about rants that rant about rants considered a meta rant?

To the ranter who posted the picture of he spider, I love you as a fellow ranter but FUCK YOU! I SEE IT, MY PUPILS CONTRACT, I GET ITCHY, AND I SCROLL AWAY!!!

I didn't thumbs down because I kept scrolling away and assuming it would go away! 3 times it got me!!

DevRant gets very confused about orientation. Exactly upside down for some screens (landscape), and portrait only for others. To the devs: I feel you. Sincerely—a veteran of the rotation trenches.