Do all the things like ++ or -- rants, post your own rants, comment on others' rants and build your customized dev avatarSign Up
From the creators of devRant, Pipeless lets you power real-time personalized recommendations and activity feeds using a simple APILearn More
Search - "net neutrality"
I heard of it for the first time. And well, this sounds disgusting.
If this happens, I'll seriously start a revolution of hackers fighting internet providers. Seriously9
Can't believe the US are talking about removing protection for net neutrality. I'm not based in the US, but hope devs out there are getting behind Net neutrality day and Battle for the net6
I know pretty much everyone here understands the importance of net neutrality, but here’s a nice chart you can share with all your non tech friends explaining the importance of it in terms they understand24
F in Internet explorer stands for fast!!
U in client stands for understanding!!
C in iPhone stands for customizable!!
N in US stands for net neutrality!!
B in devRant stands for boring!!20
2 years ago in India the government removed net neutrality. We fought tooth and claw and brought back net neutrality. (In 3 months). Never lose hope, keep fighting. 😊2
Alright, I just wanna start off by saying that I'm a huge privacy guy. I hate all kinds of data collection companies like Google/Facebook/Amazon and all that. Yet I'm forced to have a Google account for certain reasons.
But the thing that I want to say is that I often talk to people to express my concerns about privacy. And most people agree and say that "yeah sure that's some scary shit" but don't actually do much about it.
And the thing is. If you just browse through all of the options in your Google account. You can turn off and remove almost all data collection/ad serving and identification options entirely.
And yet purple complain about that Google sees what you buy and shit. Turn everything off. Get and adblocker and get noscript. The single best browser add-on out there. It's almost that easy to get at least acceptable amounts of Internet privacy.
Please, don't ever ignore the significance of in Internet privacy. And the potential issue of net neutrality. Don't be ignorant. Don't be the client.24
this.rant == "long";
This is something I feel strongly about, I hope you do too...
I fucking hate it when I hear that people don't care about net neutrality (and I've heard people say it). There is little in this world untouched by shitty corporations encroaching on the little good that is left in this world.
Yes the internet is full of edgy teenagers, incompetent Seniors (both old people and Devs) and god knows what else. But you know what? I pay my money to copy and paste code from SO (we ALL do let's not lie to ourselves) and I'm not paying a special fee to look at this content or that or send this type of text to that kind of person.
Now then to the point... On 14th December 2017 the FCC will vote on whether or not to allow companies like Verizon and - dare I say it - Comcast to charge more to access certain sites or block you access altogether and otherwise control what you say and do.
I for one, say FUCK OFF and I hope you do to. If you can, call or otherwise contact your Congressperson - you can do that here: https://house.gov/representatives/... . If you're not from the US, you can still help! https://www.battleforthenet.com has lots of information on what you can do to help.
I hope you'll all join me in shouting as loud as we can and preventing this moronic idea from going through.
After four years of debate, the Telecom Authority of India decided that net neutrality will be the official policy of indian telecom. Any form of discrimination or interference in treatment or content like blocking, slowing down or preferential speed is restricted.
Guess they pulled their head outta their arses on this one.6
Reminder: Did you remember to call congress today?
Saving net neutrality is almost over. Please don't forget to call congress.
You can also text RESIST to 50409
And sign the petition here: https://change.org/p/...9
Can we ever have a truly democratic and uncensored Internet?
I am writing this in irritation and anger as I read a story headlined " Apple CEO backs China’s vision of an ‘open’ Internet as censorship reaches new heights"
Appearantly "Open Internet" as the Chinese Government understands it is, "you can say whatever you want as long as we like it". And Apple being the ass-kissing, 730-million-customer-seeking, co**suckers that they are is only happy to comply. They even removed 674 VPN apps from the Chinese version of their App Store last year to comply with government rules, stating "We strongly believe that participating in markets and bringing benefits to consumers is in the best interests of folks there and in other countries as well, We believe in engaging in governments even when we disagree.”
That was Cook by the way.
Thats two fucking contradictory statements rolled into one!!
Anyway, I know private companies are well within their rights to do what they want to make profits. And I understand Apple might not be at fault totally. But its just so frustrating... :-(
The Net Neutrality repeal in the US, this, the Aadhar shit in India and lots of other stuff thats been happening around the world, that just blatantly undermine Civil Rights and freedom makes me imagine that only a bleak future sits on horizon. Almost Orwellian.
If only people would just realise and revolt a bit... probably we would have a different future then..
I hope I am wrong and this is just the pessimist in me speaking.14
So if Verizon agreed to not SIM lock phones in order to get the the 700MHz Block C license aka LTE Band 13, and now they're SIM Locking phones, does that mean they're going to lose their LTE license?
Just kidding, that'd require an FCC with a spine. But it fucking should.3
Can someone explain to me why the fuck I should even care about the fact, that some companies collect, use and sell my data? I'm not famous, I'm not a politician and I'm not a criminal, I think most of us aren't and won't ever be. We aren't important. So what is this whole bullshittery all about? I seriously don't get it and I find it somewhat weird that especially tech guys and IT "experts" in the media constantly just make up these overly creepy scenarios about big unsafe data collecting companies "stealing" your "private" information. Welcome to the internet, now get the fuck over it or just don't be online. It's your choice, not their's.
I honestly think, some of these "security" companies and "experts" are just making this whole thing bigger than it actually is, because it's a damn good selling point. You can tell people that your app is safe and they'll believe you and buy your shit app because they don't understand and don't care what "safe" or "unsafe" means in this context. They just want to be secure against these "evil monster" companies. The same companies, which you portrayed them as "evil" and "unfair" and "mean" and "unrepentant" for over a decade now.
Just stop it now. All your crappy new "secure" messenger apps have failed awesomely. Delete your life now, please. This isn't about net neutrality or safety on the internet. This is all about you, permanently exaggerating about security and permanently training people to be introverted paranoid egoistic shit people so that they buy your elitist bullshit software.
Sorry for my low english skills, but please stop to exist, thank you.65
The FCC Chairman is going ahead with his plan to repeal net neutrality despite objections from fellow commissioners, the CTO, more than a hundred members of Congress, senators and of course, the people.
What the fuck is wrong with this guy? How far up your own fucking ass does your head have to be to ignore basically everyone's vote against you? What the fuck. This guy is a really piece of fucking work. I hope this bounces back to bite him in the ass real hard.15
So I dont know if this has been brought here already but I was busy lately with an oncoming amount of users of my site... and they found a few bugs, anyway me sucking aside:
To my fellow American DevRant users, how do you guys feel when you are about to get fucked by the posibility of get Net Neutrality in your country? Man what is going there sure is a tragicomedy, uh?24
if a separate internet is created after the fcc passes the anti net neutrality bill, I shall call it the alternet9
I just explained to my dad, who doesn't know a lot about tech, what net neutrality is and about today's vote of the FCC.
His response (I don't know how to properly translate it to English so I will have to wait for AlexDeLarge): 'was sind das für idioten, haben die jetzt alle den Arsch offen? '12
And so net neutrality dies in the US... Mofo Ajit Pai why you do this to us? Literally 80 percent of people are against this repeal. So what the heck does he do? Repeal em of course. Hope he burns in hell forever. By that I mean I hope he has to have really slow internet forever. Now that would be justice.2
WE HAVE 12 DAYS TO SAVE US NET NEUTRALITY
LET'S GO SHOVE OUR BAD CODE UP CONGRESS' ASS UNTIL THEY FORCE THE FCC TO GIVE OUR RIGHTS BACK6
If implemented, India will have the strongest net
neutrality guidelines in the world.
To ajit fuckface pai, please learn something from your origin.
PS: please forgive India for ajit fuckface pai.6
Overheard some coworkers during lunch.
Coworker1: "fuck net neutrality! We'll make our own internet! With strippers and poker!"
I'm so fucking done with net neutrality. the only ones who want it are verion, comcast, and other big isps.
this is fucking merica. nobody wants it, and this is a government designed for the people. I guess it only works in theory.
the talk about this has been fucking exhausting. how much clearer could it be?
how does it keep coming up? so much of the economy is online. why would congress want this? this should be a fucking fundamental right. no bs, just fast speeds everywhere. i hate all the isps thinking that because the world is so reliant on the internet, they control everything.
isps are a service. that's it.
they're not a profiler or advertiser, just a service.
and if that changes, I'll buy a bunch of flash drives and go offline.
bottom line, we should have privacy, neutrality, and a safe web. fuck those greedy bastards.17
I swear my ISP has already done away with net neutrality. My connection is always going out whenever I need to look something up for work.3
I just became a supporter of devRant!
I fucking love this place, and feel I've spent enough time here already to make it worthwhile...don't think I'm going anywhere anytime soon.
In unrelated news, Markey's CRA for net neutrality just needs one more vote to get started on the next hurdle. That said, I had a dream last night about Ajit Pai becoming fucking Jim Jones and poisoning us all...and to wake up the next day and find out about a potential antidote being successful is awesome!!!
Article 13 and 11 passed today. Fucking why! They ether have absolutely no brain or are sleeping on a shitload of money right now. No one wanted this. First net neutrality now fucking this. Fuck this shit.
What if Verizon acquired Yahoo knowing that Net Neutrality would’ve been killed so they could slow Google down and force you to use Yahoo?3
I've had enough. I'm organizing a net neutrality protest at my school. I've got a small group going already!!1
There seems to be a lot of people protesting and coming together in support of net neutrality.
The rant here, where the fuck were all of you during the election? That was the time to come together and do something, now your efforts are futile.
What's worse, I'll wager net neutrality gets overturned and next election the same batch of assholes get voted in.
What can you actually do to solve the problem? Peer to peer internet similar to tor but fast enough to support considerable traffic. Platform needs to be like tor with encrypted decentralized DNS.
Start an ISP. This would also help.
Get cracking, smart people.7
This is not really the reason I got these parts, but I just had them lying around and have been following the project for some time... so why not? Haha. I was also thinking it might be cool to set these up to auto-disrupt known AP names that would be issued by companies most responsible for the dismantling of Net Neutrality. Like just make them in a dirt cheap throwie form-factor and let the companies deal with pissed off customers for a few days until the battery dies (thinking the little generic LiPo’s that cheap quadcopters use would give a few days if attacking sporadically and using the ESP’s sleep function). Just riffing here... ;P ;D2
We can hide messages in images via steganography (or ZIP sewing), we can hide messages in sound via either sound-based transmission (like Morse) or waveform-based transmission (think oscilloscope art videos), we can transmit it in videos in like 300 different fucking combined forms...
Encryption isn't the ONLY way, yo. Social engineering and being a cheeky shithead can get it done too.2
So I hate politics, but I'm sure some of you will be glad to see this article about a new proposed bill to restore Net Neutrality:
1)net neutrality and open source
2)the fall of fb, microsoft and google.Seriously all of them are either tracking you, selling your private data or irritating you by their stupid updates(come On, microsoft -_-).PS : amazon ,be careful.
3)infinity stones and wasp's suit.( umm, they can count as technology too,right?)4
Here's a quick distraction. Last Week Tonight's site-link to quickly leave a comment for the FCC on filing 17-108...
I'm sure you guys have plenty to say about that.
Welp, there goes internet freedom.
I'm all for deregulation, but not for ISPs. Not when there is no competition. Not when a lack of competition is enforced by local, state, and federal law.
Deregulation of a government-enforced monopoly is just gross cronyist malfeasance.
Being an up and coming web developer I get more concerned every day about net neutrality being repealed. Who else shares my concern and how do you think it will effect web developers if it is?2
Oh boy this year. We lost net neutrality. We spent a whole year without princess leia. I lost my job and spent 7 month finding a replacement. I got engaged. And i can safely say the only good things i have seen this year where things i did for myself and others.
Ok, so I need some clarity from you good folk, please.
We have had a number of chats about what I am best focusing on, both personally and related to work, and he makes quite a compelling case for the "learn as many things as possible; this is what makes you truly valuable" school of thought. Trouble is, this is in direct contrast to what I was taught by my previously esteemed mentor, Gordon Zhu from watchandcode.com. "Watch and Code is about the core skills that all great developers possess. These skills are incredibly important but sound boring and forgettable. They’re things like reading code, consistency and style, debugging, refactoring, and test-driven development. If I could distill Watch and Code to one skill, it would be the ability to take any codebase and rip it apart. And the most important component of that ability is being able to read code."
As you can see, Gordon always emphasised language neutrality, mastering the fundamentals, and going deep rather than wide. He has a ruthlessly high barrier of entry for learning new skills, which is basically "learn something when you have no other option but to learn it".
Any thoughts, people? I would be interested to hear peoples experiences regarding depth vs breadth when it comes to the real world.8
THE CRA TO TAKE BACK US NET NEUTRALITY WILL EXPIRE IN LESS THAN 5 DAYS!!!
CLICK BELOW TO TELL CONGRESS WE'RE SICK OF THEIR SHIT!
The deadline is VERY close. We're almost out of time, but I believe we can win this!2
Anyone know of a good vps company (like digitocean) that is not based in the US?
Currently using DO but want to switch because of the ruling (net neutrality).25
Am I the only person who is cautiously optimistic about the Net Neutrality outcome? I’m interested in hearing from anybody else here who doesn’t think the sky is falling. It seems to me that too many people are coming at this from the point of view that neutral Internet, or any Internet at all, is some kind of human right.6
This is deeply disturbing. Is it the beginning of the end for Net Neutrality? http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/...7
Glad to see the Senate disapproves of FCC's action. Now to the House.
I don't like either party, but Net Neutrality is pretty important.1
For a project we have to formulate political viewpoints and laws about digitalisation. It's not for a computerscience class, but for a additional class on politics. We have to formulate laws or guidlines/goals for the politicians to work towards in regards to "digitalisation" for the society/country we would like to live in.
For example stuff like "there should be net neutrality to guarantee free information and equal oportunities for all" and such stuff or "programing should be taught in school to prepare people for the economy of tomorrow" so it isn't limited to anything.
If you where a kind of king/ruler/what ever, what policy (in regard to "digitalisation") would you define and why? (Note: they doesn't have to be realistic for now. They shouldn't end in a dystopian future, but in a "better" future for all of humanity.)
What I thought of so far would be:
- Government use and promote Opensource and practice Opendata
- strong rights to privacy, you can request your data and demand it being deleted
- basic programing/IT education in school
- "reschool" program for people currently in the workforce that want to learn new things
- develope a policy on AI
- promote that Computer Science isn't just for boys but for every one
- less working hours per week due to automatisation/splitting the work among the whole population/basic income
*yes I'm lazy, thanks for doing part of my project ;)1
OK I'm getting real tired of people posting stuff about Net Neutrality on here, as we all know about it at this point.
The one thing that gets me more angry is that these people get it wrong.
People look at this Net Neutrality thing and instantly think: "Oh, well, I would have to pay more. That's bad."
What it really is is that your ISP can see what you have been searching and would be allowed to send that information to a third party, or change the speed of your internet if you search something their sponsors don't like.
This is what you should be worried about. Your privacy, not your wallet.5
I'm about to kick the bucket for tonight in about half an hour. However, before I go, anyone have any comments on this? I need to read more into it, but looks interesting for those of us in the States who give a shit about net neutrality:
And now Bell (among others) is pushing to censor the Internet in Canada, too. Why adjust their failing business model when they can just whine and complain, and have the government smash out the competition for them?
Thanks, America. Always paving the way to a big, fat cauldron of shit at the end of the capitalist rainbow.4
Is it all worth it? We feel its freedom, We feel it's just me and my phone or my PC. Is it? Is it that private? That camera you have on your phone, what if someone is watching you right now? That microphone you have, what if someone is listening to you right now? Those stuffs you Google, Those sites you visit, you're tracked, you're tapped. Ohh Incognito, Good Luck, there's no such thing called Incognito. Is it all worth it? In fact you're getting so much out of it. Is it all worth it? Or Am I just too obsessed? Is this Internet really that free?
It's freedom but you're compelled to use. Its freedom!
I once had a team member who was a self proclaimed technology expert. He was even interviewed on national TV for his opinions on telecoms, net neutrality and the ITC sector in our humble island.
this guy, for several months, probably to this day, cannot figure out how to set his password for his company Gmail account. he could never figure how to use Google drive, docs or any of the most basic tools.
he has no training in any development practices or languages. he did history in college and didn't even finish, but.....somehow he was able to watch half of an HTML tutorial online and then land himself a remote web dev job earning $45 USD/hr!!!!! i still dont know how he did that.
I'm am three parts upset, one part in awe of how far he has gotten just by talking to people.4
not to continually bring up net neutrality, but I'm starting to understand the stance of people who defend net neutrality. there is a very obvious con in repealing it - the "results" the FCC cites are actually experimental, and we know that title II regulations have successfully levelled the playing feild for ISPs. It just works.
The competition that would be generated after repealing T2 would incentivize companies to lower prices, if they only had a single "package", or to make the delegated sets of packages they produce affordable. it's common sense guys - If we can't afford the packages, they can't afford the business loss. Contrary to popular banter, smaller companies will not "just get pushed out" of business. Providers are going to scramble to find "the best deals" for their customers and, in the end, companies like Verizon might actually be the ones going under.
just a little thought ig1
I'm from Portugal, Europe
How will the law against net neutrality afect me? (or anyone outside the U.S.)
And... how can a law pass when 90% of people (who has a opinion) is against it?
U.S. people/gov are wird... (not all... I douth there are any Moricas here). At least If I get cancer, HIV or something like that I get free treatment... like Obama tried to do...6
Net neutrality is tyranny disguised as freedom.
Anti-net neutrality is freedom that is wrongly perceived as greed and tyranny.
Who pushes the net neutrality agenda? The same companies who spy on you, emasculate and degenrate society, pro-big government.
Yes ISP's are monopolistic and greedy. But it can change and it will change once the market is truly free from government regulations who nurtured the monopolies in the first place. Just be patient.
Governments can't rule society forever. Freedom is stronger. Civilization moves forward to Minarchism, then to Anarchism.
Long live the free market4
US NET NEUTRALITY DEADLINE WAS PUSHED BACK 2 WEEKS DUE TO CONGRESS NEEDING TO AVOID GOV'T SHUTDOWN!!! WE HAVE MORE TIME!!!
GET 'EM BOYS6
Are there any websites counting the days since the net neutrality repeal?
Would help remind people that this needs fixing just like India did
Obviously the top item on the table is NN, the "end users" from both sides of the connection on the net are for the saving it, and the middlemen that only own the "cables" want it to be repealed.
We have the solution to end this issue forever. It wont be easy, nor will it be fast.. unless certain "entities" team with us in secrecy. (There's a reason why certain "entities" have stayed silent regarding NN, due to agreements to not get involved due to the risk of backlash. AND if NN is repealed Those Entities cannot fix the problem as their hands are tied to continue to provide content to the end users.) Read between the lines you will understand it will all make sense later.
I will make The Official Public Statement within 24 hours of the FCC Vote. That statement will be how to get involved, help, get us jump started in your area, funding, the ENTIRE details of the plan, goals, and timeline. AS WELL as how to contact us. This will take time and we are not a magic solution that will fix the problem overnight.
We are however THE solution to the underlying problem with ISPs of today. We have been researching for quite a while and digging deep into the entities that have caused us to get where we are now. The further you go digging into 'THEM' the more pissed off you become as you truly realize whats going on and has been on among the ISPs its MUCH deeper than you are being told.
OUR solution will remove all of "them" from the equation completely as well as being faster, and cheaper than the Tier 1 as you wont be paying for the connection or speed, you would be paying for the hardware/overhead cost. AND we will be bringing you closer to the content providers than EVER before.
AND we will be the only solution capable for competing in the current Tier1 Monopoly zones, I promise you they cannot match our plan's price, IF they did it would be only as a loss leader and NOT a sustainable long term solution for those competing with us at are for-profit....
In order for our solution to work, and to keep the internet service non-bias, well non-bias from OUR members :) this will need to be a collective effort, focused one clearly defined vision. WE WILL AND WE MUST ALL set "profits" aside on this as profits in selling nothing other "connection" to the internet has gotten us in the mess we are in now. AND YES we realize profits help maintain and upgrade the infrastructure, BUT that isn't true in this case...Overhead from our view includes those anticipated costs.
Smaller ISPs will need to make a decision, give up profits, become one with us, and be apart of the mission OR they will be left to suffer at the mercy of the ISPs above them setting the cost of bandwidth eventually leading to their demise.
This will happen because we wont be bound by the T1s .... WE would be the "Tier 0" that doesn't exist ;)
This sounds crazy, impossible, BUT its not, it will work WILL happen, regardless of the FCC's vote. as if the FCC choices to keep NN, its only a matter of time till the big lawyers of the ISPs find some loophole, or lobby enough to bring us back to this.
Legistlation is NOT the solution its just a band-aid fix as the cancer continues to grow within.
PLEASE understand that
Until the vote is made, and we release what we are doing, stay put, hang in, it will all be explained later, we are the only true solution.
BIG-ISPs WILL REGRET WHAT THEY HAVE DONE!
What needs to be understood by all is with net neutrality inplace the ability to compete aginst the Tier 1s directly over customers and reinvent the internet to lower or remove costs completely, increase speeds AND expand to underserved/unserved communities ITS NOT POSSIBLE WITH NN
NN REPEAL is the only way to the fixing the problem for good... yes the For profit BIG ISPs will benefit but not forever.. as repealing it opens the doors for outside the box big picture innovators to come in and offer something different, the big ISPs have clearly over looked this small detail being the possibility of a “NonProfit CoOp TIER 1 ISP” entering into the game thru end users and businesses working together as one entity to defeat them... THE FOR PROFIT ISPs over looked this because they are blinded by the profit potential of NN Repeal, never did they consider our option as a possible outcome because no one has attempted it....
We will unite as one
Be the first to know! -stay updated