The worst career choice I ever made was walking away from a six figure salary software development job with benefits to focus on the small startup I co-founded just a few years earlier. My wife and I had two small children at the time and my wife was also nearly 8 months pregnant with our third. It resulted in an approximate 70% reduction in income, prematurely cashed out 401k and loss of existing health insurance.

To be fair, it was also simultaneously the best career choice I ever made. Three years later I make more now than I originally walked away from. The raw roads of stress, anger, fear and complete uncertainty have aged both me and my wife at an accelerated rate but we have grown closer to each other than we would otherwise be. We have relied on each other, and she has been unbelievably supportive with all the late nights and required traveling. We discovered what we are capable of. In one day it will be October. In one day it will be the month that we finally pay off our last batch of credit card debt that resulted from that career choice.

I cannot recommend following in our footsteps as from where I’m sitting there are much better, more calculated ways of going about it. Logically, what we did was beyond stupid. Luckily for us, we were still young enough to not grasp the full magnitude of stupidity and we also refused to fail. It’s also crucial to have stellar business partners who are just as crazy and just as determined. We have all labored tremendously and we have each played critical roles in our success. The hard times of fear and uncertainty aren’t over. I don’t think they will ever be, to be honest. But, it sure has been one hell of a ride. I wouldn’t change a thing.

Every day.

I am a PHP developer.

Yeah, "another PHP is awful" rant... no, not really.

It's just unsuitable for some ambitious projects, just like Ruby and Python are.

First of all, DO NOT EVER use Laravel for large enterprise applications. The same goes for RoR, Django, and other ActiveRecord MVCs.

They are all neat frameworks for writing a todo app, as a better-than-wordpress flexible blogging solution, even as a custom webshop.

Beyond 50k daily users, Active Record becomes hell due to it's lazy fat querying habits. At more than a million users... *depressed sigh*.

PHP is also completely unsuitable for projects beyond 5M lines of code in my opinion. At more than 25M lines... *another depressed sigh*.

You can let your devs read Clean Code and books about architecture patterns, you can teach them about SOLID & DRY, you can write thousands of tests... it doesn't matter.

PHP is scaffolding, it's made of bamboo and rope. It's not brick or concrete. You can build quickly, but it only scales up to a certain point before it breaks in multiple places.

Eventually you run into patterns where even 100% test coverage still doesn't guarantee shit, because the real-life edge cases are just too complex and numerous.

When you're working on a multi-party invoicing system with adapters for various tax codes, or an availability/planning system working across timezones, or systems which implement geographical routefinding coupled to traffic, event & weather prediction...

PHP, Python, Ruby, etc are just missing types.

Every day I run into bugs which could have been prevented if you could use ADTs in a generic way in PHP. PHP7 has pretty good typehints, and they prevent a lot of messy behavior, but they aren't composable. There is no way to tell PHP "this method accepts a Collection of Users", or "this methods returns maybe either an Apple or a Pear, and I want to force the caller to handle both Apple/Pear and null".

Well, you could do that, but it requires a lot of custom classes and trickery, and you have to rewrite the same logic if you want to typehint a "Collection of Departments" instead of "Collection of Users" -- i.e., it's not composable.

Probably the biggest issue is that languages with a (mostly) structural type system (Haskell, Rust, even C#/JVM languages to some degree, etc) are much slower to develop in for the "startup" era of a project, so you grab a weak, quick prototyping language to get started.

Then, when you reach a more grown up phase, you wish you had a better type system at your disposal...

Wannabe entrepreneurs approach for building their app.

Them: So you're familiar with Android?

Me: Yes but it's been a while, will take some time though.

Them: Not a problem.

Me: So shall we talk about the payment?

Them: Yeah, about that.. Listen, we don't have any funding now but we're sure this idea will be a hit and take off, then later we can pay you.

Me: Ok

*Gets up and leaves*

Coming up with a name for my company just makes me want to become a stripper instead

- locked my PC and went to launch
- after 30 minutes, enter my password
* all apps and windows are gone and the it's like a new startup of the windows
* notification: windows is up to date now

-- oh go to hell now

So this happened a few days ago. I always want to root my smartphones for that little bit more control.

*Put's new smartphone into fastboot mode*
*Tries to flash root zip onto it*
"You have to OEM unlock the bootloader first"
*OEM unlocks the bootloader*
*Tries to flash but fails*
*Tries to reboot*
Phone: "The bootloader has been tampered with, the device will boot in 5 seconds".
*Screen just hangs there for ages*
FUCK.
*Tries to enter fastboot again to OEM re-lock the bootloader*
*Fastboot appears to startup RIGHT AFTER THE FUCKING ERROR MESSAGE so can't boot into that anymore*.
FUCKING FUCK.
Hmm... TWRP is still installed...
*Tries to flash some stuff through TWRP*
"The zip file you are trying to flash is corrupt".
FUCK MY FUCKING LIFE.
*Connects phone to Linux for adb flashing*
*Nothing happens after half an hour of trying*
*Connects phone to ancient windows 7 laptop*
*Laptop doesn't even RECOGNISE the phone although all drivers are installed*.
*Le me about to completely lose my fucking mind*
*Connects phone desperately with Linux again*
*Phone is recognised right away but the SPL flash tool can't detect it*
*Tries to put it into fastboot again*
*Fails for about an hour*
*phone in charging mode again*
*Presses the power button for a last, desperate attempt*
*SPL flash suddenly recognises the phone*
FLASHING
FLASHING
FLASHING
DONE.
*Android boots again like nothing happened*

I can use it again like normal but the No-Root firewall is draining my battery like crazy.
That was one hell of a journey though!

Job Qualifications:
...
Proficient in PHP, MySQL, and PHP Frameworks
Experience in Bootstrap CSS
...

Required Skill:
...
- PHP
- MySQL
- C <----------------- ??? The hell is this!
- C# <---------------- ??? What the?!
- CSS
...

Probably a startup company???

I have a laptop which I bought for the sole purpose of gaming and I bought a hell lot of games off steam to startup.

But the problem here is I have to run those games on Windows (nvidia graphics card) and I only have a primary hdd and no ssd. Even though the ram and processor is up to speed due to high I/O on disk, I am not able to get a good performance out of it. To top it off random Windows processes hogging hdd in the background.

Any suggestions on what to do?

For me definitely Microsoft for multiple reasons:

- Word is probably the best wysiwyg document editor, but it's unreliable. Wrote a 100 page document? - sorry file is corrupted. It's a bulldozer of a piece of software, but remembering a clean state of the document in case the computer crashes - disaster, or verifying a document for validity before overwriting the last version? Nope.

- Cloud services are integrated..badly. Word document stored on OneDrive with some problems after crash -> welcome to hell.

- Their approach to software development from an enterprise point of view, but trying to do customer software is currently driving me nuts with Xamarin Forms. Data structures and C# are awesome, but need a good UI you're back in the middle ages.

- Their lack of concern for performance: MacBook Air with browser open and a text editor: 11 hours of battery life. Start OneDrive and we're down to one and a half hour maybe.

- Apple charging hilarious money on their products is one thing you can't deny, but what the hell do the guys at Microsoft do... - I got a MacBook Air from my employer and it has ridiculously low specs (i5 Dual Core 1.8 GHz, 8GB ram, SSD) , yet it greatly outperforms my Win10 PC (i7 Quad Core 3.6 GHz, 16GB ram, SSD) in some tasks - code compilation for example. You can't tell me MS aren't generating demand for better hardware by writing the most inefficient pieces of software. My wife has a Quadcore Atom laptop and it struggles on opening one instance of ms word. Hell, my first PC had a 433 MHz Celeron and a slow HDD with 8GB and 64 MB ram and you could work more efficiently than with this quadcore trying to run Win10 piece of crap.

- Outlook: Stores gigabytes and gigabytes of data on the harddrive, yet when the mail server is not available, crashes on startup and when it launches for once doesn't show any mail for the unreachable server.

- Windows update - do I really need to go into detail? On a desktop - okay... But we had Windows Server running - well - on a server, doing some task on it's own (2 week's job). Couple of days into the task it decided to install updates and restart.

- Their inability to create something that works reliably over time. Computer's getting slow? We don't know why.. Rather than fixing the causes we'll add a reset button which will ease the process of reinstalling windows for you. (Did someone really ever use this feature?)

- Drivers on windows are thankfully now easier than before, but still a hassle sometimes. Some things just work on Linux/macOS, take ages on Windows. I remember looking for adb drivers for the Oneplus One just to mention one example.

- What's wrong with Hyper-V? I always wondered why I can do virtualization tasks on Linux without trouble whereas on Windows I'd always have trouble- especially when I also want to use emulated Android devices (HAXM).

- Their disregard for standards. Android uses adb as the interface for debugging apps. This way it doesn't really matter if you are on a device or an emulator. Not when you start working with Xamarin. Then all of a sudden you need Microsoft's emulator (i think it was because of HyperV) which is then not compatible with Android Studio although the interface should/probably could be the same. AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "SYNC" IN GIT!

And I strongly dislike the attitude of Microsoft people - at least in my country. Microsoft is the best! It's the right way to do it! If it doesn't work the way you want it, you can still use this overly complicated workaround, your preferred solution anyway doesn't make sense/is dirty. You're using <put generic non MS tech here>? - Hahaha - I played with this when I was a child, now I do grown-up stuff. Or the famous: "iPhone? A business phone without keys? No one will buy this!"

Hope i didn't miss something, or I might need to come back...

STARTUP IDEA GUYS SUCKS!!!!

So today one of my friend asked me to do an app for him and finally share 50 percent of the profit that I get. His idea is to build an app that can measure air pollution level, water pollution level, soil fertility range. I was like "what the hell!"... The beauty is that he wants me to pay him 50 percent for giving such (stupid, retarded) idea.

Wondering when these "startup idea guys" will realize that ideas are cheap but execution is worth the millions! Fed-up with such stupid people.

I rant a lot about my old job and learned a lot about horrible management. Honestly, it was just one disappointment after another.

Let's observe the fact that the CEO, COO, and the newly hired CTO are all friends. Nepotism at its finest.

When re-designing the Front-End and planning new features with a hired agency, should we include the developers familiar with the current stack in the sprint?

I guess not.

When having "secret meetings" about rebranding the company, should the Marketing Manager be informed?

I guess not.

Now, I know there are mixed feelings about this, but the truth is, we have three unqualified individuals in management positions who clearly did not have the best interests and personal growth of their employees in this 14-person start-up at heart.

All of the employees have skills and experience which could easily be applicable to larger companies with better pay and benefits. But we chose to work for a small start-up because we wanted to have our voices heard and make a difference in the growth of company. When you take that liberty away, then what's the point of even working there anymore?

During my 7-months there, 9 people had resigned, including myself and the marketing manager. Should this be a red flag?

I hope so.

Saw a rant against "startup idea guys" and it got me thinking. A few years ago, I knew a guy. Business major, terrible at everything, but his daddy is getting him a job at a big 4 accounting firm with referrals from his frat brothers. I collect vintage watches (gotta have a hobby that isn't Netflix and anxiety,) and I figured I should make a small website, display my stuff and write a bit. He gets on board, talking about how it's gonna be the next big thing. It's not, because the market is very saturated, I mainly sell on forums and tbh just wanted to write and dick around on Wordpress. I buy our entire inventory, he blows the cash he was fronting on booze, says I "lack networking capabilities," and quits. His LinkedIn lists him as the former CEO of MY company which wasn't even incorporated enough for me to get it a business PayPal, and he is now working on a tech startup that... Wait for it... Is a social network and online marketplace for Ivy League students. I shit you not. He told me it's the "first of its kind." I signed up for lulz, and the verification email directed me to his backend directory with client logins and details in plain text 😂😂😂😂

Competitive pay

This has happened to me.
When startups post job they write competitive pay in thier posting.

Then later after interview they off er you $20/Hr.! And thier excuse we are a start up so can't offer much.

Then why the hell did you just throw that word of competitive pay in job description. Just because Amazon and other companies have that in thier posting.??

Don't you feel that competitive pay is a misused term. Almost all job posting have this. I don't get it. What is the competing with ?? MC Donald's ?

P.S. I have 2 yrs experience and worked with a startup and a full time job. And I am not arrogant about it. But when you ask me to do something I am good at I demand a good price. I respect my work.

"Who needs a staging server, test suites and continuous integration anyways haha"
-company i just joined

Few days ago it was 5 years working remotely for a US company. Went all the way from early startup hell to a stable product. Workload is normal, no overtime or weekend emails needed, have freedom to experiment, bosses are fine, pay is not bad (lower than US obviously), 4w vacation, team is great, etc. Very low turnover among developers.

The funny thing is, except for the few C-level execs who post on LinkedIn on behalf of the company, I don't know how most of the people look like. 😶

We don't use video calls, and peoples avatars on Slack and Skype are either pets or default placeholders or some old blurry photos. If I were in a silent elevator ride next to someone who I communicate with every day, I wouldn't even know.

Sometimes I wonder if that's the perfect balance between work (service rendered in exchange for money) and detachment needed when we all end the day. We have no team building events or other "striving company culture" or other typical BS; we just don't care much about any of that.

We founded a 3 man startup.
I am on holiday for two weeks and my mates paid 50k to someone so he programs a prototype app without any specifications. They told him about what the app should display without any mockups or images via Skype. Returned Monday, found out about it, and on the following Monday we will see the current status..
Oh boy, dog help me. I expect a clickdummy made with Adobesomething, and we paid 50k for that. Why didn't they wait for 2 weeks?!

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I've been working for a while now with a smaller minecraft network (hold up now, this is serious, don't walk away yet) for free. It was an amazing opportunity for me. I had the chance to work in a team on a common goal. They had equipment that I otherwise wouldn't have access to, and people who were serious about getting things done, unlike mostly all others. We had almost everything a normal business had- multiple departments, lots of people that sometimes worked through the night, proper version control on software, etc. While others were paid for their work, I chose not to be; I was doing this completely for experience. I want to be ahead for college and for a job as much as possible, so I've dumped most of my free time into this. I was a junior developer, head of security, DBA, and sysadmin. The biggest java and kotlin projects I have ever made, and the ones I was most proud of went to this network. I challenged myself in everything I did, and improved in programming tenfold since I started. I just recently spent three days on their server, setting it up properly, because someone thought managing a control panel was too much work and we need to switch to SSH. So I worked on this server alone for three days, every minute of my free time, setting it all up, and man, I thought it was a thing of beauty. It all made sense and was so simple to manage servers my grandma could do it. Made multiple improvements- iptables was configured, ssh keys were used instead of passwords, ACL was used to manage users' permissions for finer access control to the files, to name a few. I had planned on setting up fail2ban, MySQL and Postgres databases, a website, a couple Go programs to make creating servers even easier, backups to an external server with cron, the works. So after spending in excess of 45 hours on this project (learning tons along the way), I had about 13 servers up and running in an organized fashion, with startup scripts and permissions all done. This was the best setup yet. I went to sleep, got up in the morning, and found out that they had reinstalled everything again without saying anything, wiping out all my work, and had stayed up all night setting up a control panel to get 3 servers running, which they're still working on, and may get it done in a couple more days. So all my work was wasted. A part of me is fine with that I guess, sure it wasted a ton of time on my part but I still learned a lot. But the fact that they just deleted it all without warning and decided to change to another system entirely because it was too much work to learn the new way, after making me set everything up alone without help, having to deal with multiple people breathing down my neck and trying to get people to respond so I could get my work done, annoys the hell out of me. So I decided to take a break from them.

Now I'm looking for a new way to improve in everything I do. I want to get better at java, kotlin, golang, sql, everything related to system administration, database administration, back end, and maybe even a little frontend. I want to be the best developer I can be. The challenge of learning something new is actually fun. I just need a new project, or place to help. Unfortunately, most internships start after college, so that isn't an option, and being a janitor at a small business won't help me much unless I look over other peoples' shoulders when they're working. Open source projects would be interesting, but I don't know if I'd be able to ask anyone for help or opinions on anything. The perfect situation would be working for someone, and having a mentor that really knows their stuff to help me become better. Working on personal projects only gets me so far so fast; it's mostly a cycle of doing something a bunch of different ways because I don't learn about an alternative way to do it until I'm mostly done. Also, if I worked with people in an actual place, I'd get a feel for the environment and for how all the systems worked together. Finally, it'd show me how everything is done properly (hopefully) and how software development in the real world is. A real project, in a real team would be a Godsend for me. I'm not asking for one here, obviously, I just want to know- is this possible for me? I know people my age aren't often hired for this, but I really want to learn and improve. I don't have a degree, I'm self taught in everything. I've been using java for two years, kotlin for a half, golang for less. I know it's unlikely. Just.. how can I try to get this kind of situation, if possible? Thanks.
`

I don't know what you did yesterday, but i did make my company throw away 2 months of progress.
It all started in the beginning, since that i've made numerous complaints about the workflow or code and how to improve it. I've been told off every time, and every time i either told the boss who agreed in the end or wrote code to prove myself. Everything was a hassle and my tasks weren't better.
Team lead: you'll do X now, please do that by making Y.
Me: but Y is insecure, we should do Z.
Team lead: please do Y
Later it turns out Y is impossible and we do Z in the end...
Team lead: please do W now
Me, a few days later: i've tried and their server doesn't give http cors headers, doing W in the browser is impossible
Team lead, a few days later: have you made progress on W?
Me: * tells again it's impossible and uploads code to prove it *
Team lead: * no response *

After that i had enough. Technically i still was assigned to do W, but i used my time to look over the application and list all the things wrong with it. We had everything, giant commits, commented out code, unnecessary packages, a new commit introduced packages that crashed npm install on non-macs, angularjs-packages even though we use angular, weird logic, a security bug, all css in one file even though you can use component-specific css files...

I sent that to my boss, telling him to let the backend-guys have a look at it too and we had a meeting about this. I couldn't attend but they agreed with me completely. They decided to throw away what we have already and to let one of the backend-guys supervise our team. I guess there will be another talk with the team lead, but time will tell.
It feels so good having hope to finally escape this hellish development cycle of badly defined task, bad communication and headache-inducing merges.

When you work for a startup that isn't going well and the ceo won't listen to the board

My Startup Stack now looks like this on production env !! LOL

In your earlier years. Try to work in a startup. Don't go for corporate life yet. You will learn hell of a lot in a small startup.

And also if you are doing job hunting just spam the recruiters and top officials of the company in LinkedIn until you get an interview setup. Because fuck it you need a job !

/Rant

Fucking hell it is so hard to find an internship these days.

Now, I am just an normal student from a small college in India. The companies who are even slightly big/established won't even consider your resume unless you are from one the best colleges or know someone extremely high up in the management. The smaller startups are so disorganised that they just want free labour for a website or an app. Now ok I admit I slacked on my entrance exams and couldn't get a good college, but at least give me a chance. Take an interview, a test something. My mates from even slightly better colleges get internship offers from bigwigs just because their college is better and companies hire from them regularly. They come to campus and also takes interns with them. Meanwhile, here we are. Sitting empty on our assess waiting for a service recruiter to pick us all up.

I feel like it's worthless to slog through this shitty college now. Shitty colleges in India are lost causes. Shitty infrastructure, shitty faculties and the number one thing they care about is ATTENDANCE. Fuck them and fuck the education system.

Oh and did I tell you that the college administration won't let you intern at a no name startup and you need a No Objection Certificate from the Department Head to be able to pursue your internship otherwise it won't count towards your curriculum.

I am sorry if this bothered any of you and sorry if I came out to be a really arrogant person but I needed someplace to vent.

im the only person in my company who has any sort of tech skill. Im the only dev here, the only IT guy here, and pretty much the only person who can use a computer outside of facebook. And my CEO is expressing concerns as to what i do? Life of startup hell

I own a start up with two friends of mine - one is great with business, and the other tries to be both a developer and on the business side. I'm fully on development and I find it extremely frustrating to work with him. He copies and pastes code, doesn't understand it, and worse still will never admit it and digs himself in deeper into the hole he's dug. He doesn't code as a hobby and it's purely just assignments in university that he spends any coding time on. I've tried helping him to improve over the past few months, but nothing seems to ever do anything as there's no desire to solve problems - just really dollar signs in his eyes is probably the only reason he's in computer engineering. Recently we got a contract with an organisation to make an extremely simple app for android and iOS as the first stage of their planned development. As I did the most of the work on another project during the summer (while juggling a job with another company as an internship), I asked if he could take this so he can try to improve and equalise work so he does his share. Not only did it take 3 weeks, but it's shoddy as hell and looks like it was done in the space of an hour. In reality it took days for him. It's unbearable! The android code I saw was clearly just copied from various sources and mashed together - there was no planning, no understanding of abstractions, and was legit a giant class or two with extreme amounts of redundancy. Hell, he even asked me for help for trying to implement fragments when I pointed out that making screens with buttons and such will be extremely difficult if he is only passing in strings. Any of you guys experiences something like this before? I'm planning on bailing in the coming weeks once my exams are over with for university as it's becoming unbearable.

Any technical cofounders here? I've been offered to be a technical co-founder for a new venture. This is a venture that has the same founding team as the startup I'm working with for last 3 years or so. The current venture may be acquired in the near future with the founding team exiting.

Now my question (s) are these:
1. I know the team. We're friendly. But until now the relationship has been that of an employer-employee. What all should i consider before taking this up?
2. Since founders generally take up salaries only what is required for them to sustain. It would mean a financial cut for me too. So I'm stuck in the dilemma of moving towards an entrepreneurial route vs if it fails and I've to work again i may have to start off with a lower salary in the future.

I'm a risk taker (some call it seeker) when it comes to that. Looking forward for some helpful suggestions.

[Background]
Back in September I joined a startup after my first job in MNC for about 1.8 yrs as a fresher. I always wanted to learn, but the experience in that MNC was not at all fruitful. So ai decided to join a small/mid size company or a startup. To my luck, I got in this small startup in a week after my resignation as a front-end dev (always wanted to be).
It's an automation company, so you can find software, electronics, even mechanical engineer.
The team was almost a year younger than me. It was a team of around 12 people, in which 5 of them were from Business development.

The tech team was too driven and knowledgeable. Always trying new stuffs and motivating to do the same. I was highly motivated by them in my initial days, watching them working on new stuffs.

So I started with revamping their website completely in Angular 4, and did it in around a month or so, being new to Angular. Outcome was pretty satisfactory. I wanted to work on new projects, but just to get the cashflow in they started getting in WordPress projects. It was frustrating, I wanted to work more on new technologies like Angular, React, etc...but just for the survival of the company I had to work on WordPress, so to respect their urge to get going I kept working on 3-4 projects in parallel, and mind you the clients were from hell !!

Fast-forward 4 months, I am still working on few WordPress websites, and one internal GPS based project in React. And I haven't received my salary for past 3.5 months, since the company is still struggling with the issue of funding and getting money from clients. I kinda liked working there because there was lot to learn even though they are so young, but I had bills to pay too.

And I am in dilemma to leave the company or not, because I already stretched 3 months out of good will and guilt of leaving the company in high time. So i finally let the CEO know that I cannot stick for any longer. And i was done with the false promises of getting the salary "next month" everytime. All the money getting inside of company was invested heavily on the product we were building and no one was getting the salaries. Others were fine since they were founding members too.

Long story short : I finally left immediately and now working in a good company as a React dev. I hope they do well and I would love to see them grow, but please *STOP* making false promises and hold on to employees on a lie.

when you hire a third party team and the ceo is so technically behind that the team starts treating you like an idiot as well.
Unlike my boss who can barely work a mac, i can use github so you dont have to send me a zip file.
Unlike my boss, you can use big words.
Unlike my boss, you dont have to treat me like im stupid.

Just lost two clients who were on retainer. Startup suddenly with cash flow problems.
I'm not sure what to do to fix this.
☹️

I saw a thing on the Workplace stack exchange site. This college kid with no in industry experience read the false narrative that "pitting your testers against your developers for bonus money encourages better productivity and bug free code". And thought it sounded good on paper. This worries me in many ways (especially since he wants to make a startup). The first being that he couldn't see how both sides would game the hell out of such a system, which I feel any worthwhile engineer types would easily figure out. The second is seeing money as the major motivating force behind software devs doing their jobs. I had a third but I am tired.

But seriously, who is still writing this bullshit (that article, not the kid's question) in 2016?

When I was attending my last year CS at uni I was approached by a startup that was funded by my uni.
It was the usual clusterfuck, an app idea that two business majors came up with. The idea was ok, but they had no coding experience. I was supposed to to set up everything and they told me that they might pay me with stocks.
(When they tell you they MIGHT pay you, you know its fucking bad)
There was so many red flags at this point so I told myself there is no way in hell I would do jackshit for them.
So I played along for a while, just so I could use them as a reference when I applied for a real job, and it actually worked.
Sometimes I go and look at the domain just to see where they ended up.
They didnt get past the index page.

Another 3am production deploy. What's it like to have a real dev team... I legitimately forget.

Fucking Xcode 10 beachball on startup of death, how the hell do I get rid of you

I just got myself working with the worst developers I could ever know, they don't know nothing about dry, kiss principles... They built an entire platform using Zend framework but they don't used mvc layers right and there is no backend validation most of the time, besides many other true newbie developer problems. I just came to this job and from and Rb/Python background and I can't live with this piece of code. They have 20+ years in the market while I'm just a guy with 5 or 6 years. What should I do if I can't convince the startup owners they are bad as hell waste of money?