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So I'm learning 2D game dev in java.
Being stubborn I'm coding everything myself because, you know who needs libraries.😅
Holy toenails ,I have mad respect for the guys who build game engines. Especially 3d engines.
Y'all are beasts.28
Trying to explain to a coworker that the AJAX call he would like to do will not work due to same-origin policy restriction.
Coworker: «But for me it is working.»
Me: «What browser are you using?»
Coworker: «Internet Explorer»
Normally when someone calls in and I pick up, they either don't call from an authorized number and get mad when we I don't give information, ask for advice and then say that it isn't logical and ask for a different answer or are just stubborn as a motherfucker.
Then I suddenly get a call from someone who I can verify easily, listens carefully to my answers and thanks me in the end.
Where can I get more of those clients?!16
So today we had a robot having an issue with one of its movement phases due to some mechanical crap blah blah blah. Anyway instead of Fixing the mechanical issues, they want me to re-program the motions to compensate for it....... *sigh* anyway I got over it. My supervisor tried to tell me that some of the movements on the axis were straight no rotation involved. I look at the program and it sure as heck mentions a 178.9 degree rotation. I told him but He insisted that I’m wrong to the point of going and talking crap to another supervisor about me..... he came and apologized after I did it his way and he got his ass chewed out because he couldn’t accept a subordinate was right. As for me I got a little tingle from proving his stubborn ass wrong haha2
I worked with another developer who argued with every choice the rest of the team made, wrote overly complicated code, and was so stubborn we ended up arguing every day for 2 weeks over his poor decisions. I nearly quit twice, and nearly beat him to death with his own keyboard multiple times.2
To everyone in hurricane war path...
YOUR WONDERFUL STUBBORN ASSES BETTER LET ME KNOW YOU'RE OK. I'M GOING TO BE WORRIED SICK UNTIL ALL THESE FUCKING WATER TORNADOES ARE DONE.32
"Can't we extract the UNIX from Linux and use it as our server operating system?"
Linux isn't even based on UNIX, but this piece of shit of a bitch of client was so freaking stubborn, and wanted a RAR file of UNIX from me7
Sometimes I think back to all the funny shit that happened and how simple stuff fucks everyone
- tired Database engineer deleting (not dropping, literally rm -rf) the database files on the wrong server
- Microsoft delivering viruses through updates
- Pissed and stubborn dev deleting his one line library repo which does something like removing a char left side of string fucking an unmeasurable amount of other projects
- Adobe getting hacked and exposed for storing passwords in plain texts
- a doubled line causing a bug called heartbleed in a fuckton of webservers
- a Tutorial Company getting kicked from github because their repo got so big github staff had to maintain the repo manually
- and an old one: bad code crashed a space shuttle16
Does anyone remember MUDs? Multi-User Dungeons — working on those in LPC was my first experience with real programming. Before that, I'd only made simple websites.
To get permission to program in one MUD, you had to prove that you knew the world, by reaching a certain level in the game. Death had consequences, with a level being lost, as well as risking loss of your items if someone looted you or your corpse was lost. This alone was hard enough to make most players give up. I played (and played wisely) to get there, being the first of my friends. It was hard work and fun.
After months of playing every day, finally, I was a wizard! Well, first, I had to convince someone else to take me as an apprentice, which was it's own challenge, because I was a 13 y/o girl. I ended up having to wait for an older male friend to get to the proper rank and get made a full wizard himself, because anyone else was reluctant (thinking that I'd just screw up or make them look bad), and no one was very happy about it. After some more weeks, I started programming my own content for the MUD, to share with others. It was a great opportunity to learn and express myself, seeing how creative programming could be.
I got called all kinds of names for asking questions and making mistakes, and I questioned why I even wanted to work with these people who hated my guts and didn't want to teach me anything, but I kept going. As I wasn't allowed to take computer classes in school, being able to do projects on my own like this was the only way to learn. I also became more stubborn, patient, and independent, which has always been necessary for this career.
Most importantly, I saw what could be done with programming, and was inspired to keep going with my own projects, no matter how much hate that I got for it. I went on to work on more games and software, often on my own. I always explore new technology, ignore the haters, and forge ahead with my own vision.4
“Web does not need reactive programming”
“Everybody use PHP now, we don’t need your fancy functional stuff here”
This and other hilarious things I’ve been told through my career, as well as the story of doctor who tried to teach other doctors to wash their hands but lost his sanity because they rejected him, are in my fresh article.
We have a developer that is known for rejecting PR during code reviews.
He sent me a message and asked me to come to his desk to discuss my PR.
He mentioned that he didn't like my solution and suggested to rewrite the code together.
So far so good, he is a senior developer and I'm sure I'll pick something from the pair programming session. He went with his approach and faced some issues that led us to my solution after nearly 2 hours.
I'm not angry because this scenario happened at least 3 times but how do you guys deal with senior developers that are stubborn?10
Guy using VPN:
why would anybody use tor unless he hides something?
Me (using Tor):
why would anyone use VPN unless he hides something?
In my opinion there is no difference in using Tor than in using VPN, it's all about privacy. I would consider Tor as an free alternative for your everyday privacy needs, if you can't afford VPN, or am I wrong?23
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I have voiced my unhappiness to the powers that be regarding having to sit in traffic for over an hour to get to work and an hour to get back home, in the hopes that some sort of resolution and compromise can be reached.
The response basically was, "We've never had anyone work from home before and this is very new to us, so we wouldn't know where to start and how to manage this."
Firstly, from what I've heard along the grapevine, someone has worked from home before. In fact, it was a developer... wouldn't you fucking know!
Secondly, you're the manager... FUCKING MANAGE! Yes this is perhaps "new" territory for the company, but it's certainly nothing new to the world. Or maybe I'm wrong?
How's about, rather than fucking "ummm-ing" and "ahhh-ing" about the working from home being a good idea or not, perhaps try saying, "You know what, let's try something for the next 3 months and see how it goes. We sit down and hash out when and how we are going to communicate regarding the work that needs to be done, and when you will need to come in for meetings and the like." If it doesn't work after 2 weeks, oh well... we tried. And if we're still going strong after month 4, I think we have a winner!
Perhaps it's a generational thing, seeing as management are Baby Boomers and I'm a Millennial? Then again, I could be wrong.
The point is that I see a potential solution to my problem that may actually work and benefit both parties, but they're either to fucking set in their old ass ways and stubborn to allow this. Or perhaps it's a thing of "if we do this for you, we have to do it for everyone", which they don't want to do.
But more importantly, they don't seem to get the whole notion of "a happy employee is a productive employee".6
Couldn't remember how to write to console in c#. Refused to Google it. Wasted probably a good 10 minutes being stubborn. Turns out it was Console.WriteLine not Console.WriteLn6
I got my first programming job half a year ago, the lead developer there is really fucked up... he is old fashioned and stubborn as hell. He developed a platform that is a mess, his comment: “it works”... but now I have to fix it... I argued with my boss and convinced him to put more time in making it more scalable and feature proof. But the lead developer back then... he didn’t agree it seems like he want to do everything as quickly as possible... now half a year later he stopped working for us and I’m the lead developer now.
And I’m discovering more and more bad decisions... HOWWWW
WHAT DID THIS GUY DO???
At one time I was arguing with him and he backfired a comment: “I’m doing it like this for 10 years”... so I guess that’s the problem... he didn’t put effort in keeping up with the latest developments...
There is literally no structure in his work, every file is different... HOW DO I FIX THIS IN A NICE WAY??? I’m thinking to just start over again...11
Me: "Oh, I see the problem.... Ctrl ^C"
App: "Received interrupt signal. Ignoring."
Me: "That's not how this works. I tell you to quit, and you quit. M'kay pumpkin? ... Ctrl ^C Ctrl ^C Ctrl ^C ....."
App: "Received interrupt signal. Ignoring."
App: "Received interrupt signal. Ignoring."
App: "Received interrupt signal. Ignoring."
Me: "Stubborn piece of crap."
My trusty old Nexus 5 had a broken microphone for a long time (only worked on speaker phone) and a couple of weeks ago the display died as well. Yesterday, I decided that I can't afford a new one so I took it apart. After a while I had successfully repaired both the microphone and display with small pieces of tissue paper. I guess anything is possible when you're a stubborn problem solver!10
The only thing that differentiates a good developer from a bad one *here* is their ability to choose the right keywords to search on Google to achieve a first result where a magic spell of a source code can be pasted into the editor.
The standards of what makes a good developer is so fucking low that even the laziest, average asshole can stand out in a crowd of "developers" who aren't very good in choosing the right keywords. It's fucking annoying how garbage people like these end up being cocky about some work that they didn't even have to think about. It's so rare to find a developer these days who actually dissect each component and "understands" how it works. Everyone else is just memorizing what each component does and when it stops working as expected, they don't even know how to debug. So they hide behind their cocky disguise of "I can't be wrong" and "Your suggestion can't possibly be the solution".
I'm not talking about libraries and hardcore diving into the machine code of every little thing. Just the bare minimum of knowing what you paste and the humble attitude of listening to someone's suggestion when that person has a track record of saving your stubborn, assuming, and incompetent ass. When I look closely into these cocky condom slimes, they are nothing but human waste who have access to the internet but with a huge ego to go with it. They can't resolve or investigate basic problems unless the solution appears on Google.
You're never gonna learn if you can't be humble enough to accept when you're wrong. You can't blame the technology, the IDE, the environment, or the programming language forever especially when someone else managed to make it work. You are nature's way of population control because if there were no people like you, many people wouldn't be depressed as fuck about the epic disappointment of your birth. No man will have an existential crisis or even ask the question, "What is the point of living?"
Standing out in a crowd of braindeads is not an achievement. You're not Steve Jobs. You're not making a dent in the universe or someone's anus. You're making a dent in my lifespan with your proud manner of saying illogical things like "It's not working because it's just weird." You're the reason why people die. You're that caveman who touched the fire 99999999999 times until he burned himself to death.
You the man, man. Cheers! Proud of you! Woo hoo!11
Nothing is more frustrating than fighting for hours with an issue, then find a single thread on a website with someone having the exact same problem as you and the only comment below is from OP with "nvm, sorted it out"
BUT HOW DID YOU DO THAT?! THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WITH THE SAME FUCKING PROBLEM AS YOU AND YOU'RE LEAVING THEM WITH THEIR FRUSTRATION YOU IGNORANT, STUBBORN ASSHOLE!!!1
I recently had a conversation with a colleague of mine which went as below:
Me: I am learning JS
Him: When did you learn Java?
M: Why do you need Java to learn JS?
H: WTF!!! How can you learn 'JAVA'script without learning Java?
M: Mate, both are independent languages. One is a programming language and other is a scripting language.
M: It does not work that way.
H: Explain me how it works then.
M: *tries to explain him*
H: Who are you fooling? You can beat me in appraisal by faking to learn JS without learning Java.
He did not know shit but was full of confident (read shit) and stubborn with his point that one must learn Java to learn JS.
I later asked him to Google and read Wikipedia to understand the difference on technical level (because I was unable to explain him).
His response: Anybody can edit Wikipedia. I don't trust it.
I did not punch him because I don't want to lose my job. But definitely a faceplam experience.
Dumbfucks are all around.7
So I have too many posts for wk110. It's sad. Here we go. I got a bad grade on an assignment for a hello world program in college. How do you write a hello world program that successfully prints hello world and not get 100 percent?
The teacher insisted that we write a console "hello world" program in C++, on windows. If he can't read hello world, you fail. So you must add `system("pause")` at the end so the window stays open. One problem: system() is horribly insecure and im stubborn. I refused to write exactly what he wanted, like everyone else did, because I try to not write code I know is unsafe. So I ended my script with cin.get() which also pauses for input. Unlike pause however it can't be any key, it reads a line, so you must hit enter. This was "unfavorable behavior" and ultimately I got something like a high C, low B grade. Only person to not get 100%8
I have to work with an unbelievable stubborn (and incompetent) "project Manager)
He just actually tried to convince us that leading 0 in some" hexadecimal" strings get truncated.
I know that does not sound like something to lose the mind over, but these wrong facts do come up ever so often. It knaws on my sanity.6
Not sure if this is necessarily a prank, but I was working on a team that was split in 2. We had a group of senior devs in one country, and junior devs in another (god only knows why, and yes I complained about this a lot).
The "lead" of the juniors was very stubborn and refused to adhere to the official standards, as his way was better.
I was working on an app with him, I was fed up with how badly the app was working, how hard it was to find files etc. So I waited for him to be off on holidays and pulled some extra hours to completely re-do the folder structure, rip out his persistence layer and a few other things.
When he came back he lost his shit and complained to the architect. The architect (also fed up with his shit) told him that we don't have the time to invest in reverting back everything, and loosing all the new features I added on top, especially since the app is now adhering to standards.
Never felt such satisfaction in my life.
Clients r wankers. He wants to be able to send login details incl passwords in email to his clients when he adds them in the cms. The passwords are encrypted and generated on creation of a new user. Ive told him that sending credentials in email is shit and not secure. The stubborn bastard wont budge, so instead i've put explicit instructions to reset password once logged in with the credentials they send. Any other suggestions?3
kinda long but please read (skip to the bullets if you're lazy):
hey dR. I stumpled across a search engine that aims to help the environment. it's called "Ecosia" and it will plant a tree for every ~45 searches you make. just think, one stubborn bug could make you the reason for a new forest! I'm not sure if it's legitimate or not, but apparently it uses 80% of its profits to plant trees, and makes that profit from ads. is it safe to use? I'm not sure.
here is what you should know (some are based on claims by ecosia and aren't proved, but probably true):
- they plant a tree for about every 45 searches you make
- they are able to plant trees by using money from ads
- they "respect privacy"
- they're "fully transparent"
- they're a "social buisness"
- [I hope this isn't a turnoff] the search results are powered by bing
- since 1.9, vivaldi has included ecosia as one of the preset search engines (I'm not sure if it's the default)
- it has opera, firefox, and chrome extensions
Whenever I come across an error I can't solve, my passion and enjoyment for programming steadily goes downhill as I furiously search Stack Overflow and debug. And just when I'm about to give up, to say "this is the opposite of enjoyable, I'm quitting" I figure out the stupid mistake I made, and the moment of sheer bliss that comes with solving a stubborn issue boosts my passion for coding up even higher then it was before.
And at times like this, I wonder if that majority of time spent staring frustratedly at an error message is actually made worthwhile by the sudden hit of adrenaline that comes from solving the problem.
I imagine myself like a drug addict in that regard. Like a drug addict, I spend most of my time feeling like shit, but that short feeling of happiness makes me put up with the shittiness. Is it really worth it? I subject myself to so much angst, angst that I only keep pushing through because I'm certain I'll figure it out eventually, I'll solve the problem and everything will be okay.
Maybe that means programming isn't truly for me. I'm sure many people actually enjoy the process of overcoming obstacles, but honestly, I don't. The only reason I keep trying to scale that obstacle is because of my memory of the past obstacle, and the feeling I felt as I climbed down the other side, having finally reached the top.1
Why should I make my fucking code messier and write some bullshit workaround just because you’re a stubborn idiot who refuses to upgrade your fucking operating system and browser. ARGHGHGGH1
Do you guys find yourself ignoring things you should be using just because you're too stubborn to learn how they work? Because I just used std::shared_ptr for the first time today.1
Dealing with stubborn devs who don't understand why non prod apps shouldn't talk to production apps.2
Is inadequate a better word? how about stubborn lazy and stupid? Yeah, I think that sums me about up. Let's hope tomorrow is a better day... if that's even possible...
I finally quit being a stubborn ass and started using cloud storage. well that's quite a few gigs saved off of photos and docs. now no longer have to remote in to grab files. next month setting up plex2
Heard a story about an interview taken by one of my teammates..
The guy had approx. 9 years of experience of full stack development having current exp in JS based work.
He was stubborn on the condition that he'll work only on JS for the rest of his career and nothing else.
I can't understand people having a raging boner on one language...
P. S : I am a JS developer too!2
One stubborn (but not very good) dev working on one part of new project (Windows desktop application with C# underneath) decided he didn’t like the interfaces we were agreeing for the algorithmic code.
Instead of discussing with the team (we were still very much in design phase), he made his own interfaces with the same name but in a different namespace, and in his assembly rather than in the base library. He was senior to the rest of the dev team, so when we raised our concerns he pulled rank and just carried on.
I resigned not long after that.
! Do not read further or open this rant if you are likely to be offended!
I always wanted to know but had no nice way to ask so I'm just gonna shoot.
Most of you must have worked/be working with foreign people: canadians, french, chinese, etc. How would you describe those people as colleagues [e.g. lazy, stubborn, chatty, etc.]? The goods and the bads would be perfect.
The topic is sensitive. Please be polite but sincere. This question nor its answers are not meant to offend anyone. We all have our cultural differences, we all have been taught different. I'm just wondering what could I or anyone else expect from each foreign teammate.20
Recently, one of my customers filed a ticket because some iFrame he got from another company wouldn't display after putting it into the content editor.
But, yeah... She understood what the problem was. Is clear.1
Been engaged in a silly-client-request VS stubborn-developer war since last week. They wanted a textbox where they enter decimals - generally in the form 1.234 - to automatically put the decimal point after the first number.
"What if it's 10.xxx or 100.xxx?"
"That won't happen"
"How much time will it really save them having to press another key?"
"Why, how long will it take you to do the fix?"
Etc, ridiculousness and rage increasing exponentially...
Common sense finally prevailed today. Just think of all those wasted milliseconds having to press the "." key.3
Ugh, been debating with a client for an hour about basic backups and security practices and want to tear my hair out. How do you guys deal with stubborn clients?5
Okay, I get it, MacOS and Linux both have their roots in Unix, and yes there's similarities between them, but one stubborn Mac fanboy tried to talk a friend of ours out of installing Manjaro on a MacBook on the grounds that they are "the same thing"...
No... you Bellend... Let others chose their own OS Numbnuts! Now I'm angry and have to vent on devRant!1
If I rant about someone else ranting, is that rantception?
When people are too stubborn and set in the past to adjust and adapt to new services and technology that they end up unintentionally over complicating what should be simple just to fulfill their own negative prophecy.3
"The Phoenix project" alternative ending:
Bill Palmer manages to avert disaster with heroic efforts, working 18 hours per day for weeks.
His wife files for divorce. He starts to sleep at office, next to the servers room.
At the last moment a huge hacker attack almost destroys everything, but he finally manages to announce that Phoenix is ready on time, security auditing passed and any kind of great improvements.
Steve, the CEO, calls him and says: "are you crazy? we put you on an impossible project with short notice to make you fail! All our investors have been secretly short selling our stocks, so now they are waiting a big failure to cash in. We also paid korean hackers to bring you on your knees. But you are really stubborn! "
All Phoenix Project is rolled back, huge shit happens, stocks fall, investors ripe great benefits. All IT is outsourced to an external company (owned by members of the board)
Bill is fired. His reputation tainted by the failure, he can't find job anymore. his technical skills and knowledge are out of date.
As he didn't have time to take care of divorce he has lost also all his personal wealth.
He writes a book about his experience, well, actually a rant, but the company sues him forcing him to pay more money.
In the final scene, police arrests him, drunk while trying to burn a server farm with matches.
My collegue denies to provide breaking changes in our login API in a separate version to the other teams depending on it.
What is the reason for his stubborn rejection?
It's scrum. We haven't planned the effort for realising a versioning concept for our API.
Let's build it in the next sprint as a part of live deployment strategy.
The point he miss is that the ProductOwner wants his API change deployed during the next sprint.
Additionally, it is best practice, having a compatible, deployable product after each sprint, without any risks.
Furthermore, another best practice to provide your API is one URI without a version part holding the current development of the API. And URIs with a version part in it to keep a specific request/response structure and behavior.
What really grind my gears are sayings like 'if the other teams had well programmed their software, modifying our API won't have any effect on them'
C'mon dude. That's far from reality, as anybody knows.
I can't accept, we provide unprofessional API builds, as he is going to do.
So, i have to spend my time and energy to change his mind, together with other software-architects, planning the big thing API-Gateway *sigh*2
A bad dev habit I should unlearn?
How about being too stubborn to take an idea out back and put it out of it's misery. You know what I'm talking about. Got some elegant idea in your head, it looks so pretty and masterful. You begin to implement it but straight away, things start looking pretty fucking ugly. You persist though, and persist.
Sooner or later that pretty idea looks like Donald and Hillary decided to spawn a love child. You close your eyes and grit your teeth, unwilling to put the abomination out of it's misery.
You stop and finally open your eyes to look at what you've done. A hideous beast with Gary Johnson's nose, Bernie's voice. Donald's hair, and Hillary's lips stares back at you. Yeah. Now you've wasted hours upon hours and only have a mistake worse than the 2016 American Presidential Election to speak for it.2
One of my colleagues is ex-military.
As much as I respect these guys for their service, I have never experienced so much stubborn insubordination in my entire career.
Anybody else deal with these types?3
TL;DR (it is indeed a text wall) => read the tags, it should be enough for you.
Context : my sister works as an "everything"-manager for a small non-profit company dispensing classes in some crafting art. Her boss (let's call him Nic) is also a friend of her, and he's more of a "thousand ideas a second" type of guy than a "more monies for me", so he speaks very friendly, directly, and doesn't always think about the management and costs of his decisions.
His website, on which users can book for classes, is a Wordpress (you already know it's gonna be bad). I already talked to him about getting a custom and fine-tuned website. Having seen my sister use it for administrative tasks, it's a real pain and really not suited for their particular needs. Also, getting a custom website would permit some manual tasks automated (so less work for her). But he won't accept because "SEO is better on Wordpress".
Yesterday, 23:30 (11:30pm) she called me on Messenger, asking if I could dispense some advice to her boss because he struggled migrating the companys website to another server. Looking at the time, I said she could put me though so he could tell me quickly his problem, but I wouldn't do anything until at least tomorrow. Things went a bit like this (on Messenger) :
Nic : Yo. What's up ?
Me : I'm fine, thanks, and you ?
N : Fine, but not the server... It's so slow and I can't seem to get the perfs up. It's pissing me off. I switch from /Offer 1 from hosting provider/ to /Offer 2 from hosting provider (SSD included !)/, I thought it'd be better but the TTFB is still struggling at min 5 seconds. You know what I mean ?
Me : Yes...
N : Anyway, here is the speed test for the original server, and here is the speed test for the VPS one. [me to myself : oh, it's a VPS, ok...]
You see, it's worse on the VPS. Of course, without any plugin everything is perfect, but I just need them.
Me : AFAIK, but I'm no expert on the subject, a VPS will already be slower, because it's virtualized. But I may be wrong here. Anyway, the problem is clearly Wordpress : your plugins are adding a shitload of operations on your server, so SSD or not, if the CPU is overwhelmed, having better I/O won't change anything. They aren't always written by developpers with speed and optmization in mind, so you may be using a rocket-launcher just to kill a fly.
N : I already told you that a custom website means shitty SEO. Having a clean and quick code may be nice, but if nobody uses it, you're screwed. If Wordpress represents 1 out of 3 websites worldwide it's for a reason. Aren't you stubborn ? Anyway, can you work on that or not ?
Me : I didn't say you NEEDED a custom website. I just said that, just as you admitted earlier, the problem is clearly caused by the plugins. You told me about your matter, I tried to find an explication. Unfortunately I'm really not able to do anything about this side of things. It may not be the best explaination, nor the only one, but it's 23:40 now and I'm not experienced on Wordpress and server optmization.
Anyway, Wordpress' SEO may be excellent, but it doesn't mean it's crap on other websites. You "only" have to be cautious with it. [it's not as if you hadn't to be cautious with WP SEO too, anyway...]
But I won't insist, rest assured. Who's the most stubborn out of you and me, by the way ?
I can try to find some info, but won't promise you to do anything. Maybe send me a list of your plugins, so I can try to find some info on them tomorrow when I come home? [I was expecting to find out if one of them was known to slow down the system, so we could potentially narrow down his problem]
... wait for his answer ...
N : There are 62 of them. It'll be simpler if I just send you the passwords so you can look at it by yourself.
Me: [Wait wut] Ok.
... By the way, having people click on your website is good, but having them to stay on it (when you know that most users leave if the page isn't loaded in 2 seconds) is better. You have to find a good balance between speed and SEO. Or have big monies to get a server on steroïds. GAFA has all 3, the rest of the world finds compromises.
N : Here's the solution ! I put a 500 Mbps on my i7 7700 !
... A night passes, I don't answer ...
N : You good at configuring servers ? Especially for CDN ? If I put one in /location A/ and one in /location B/ (for security and SEO)... I have a i7 8350 8Go, it should be enough, and I could later add another in /location C/...
I haven't answered yet. Because I never configured a server, and also because I still can't do anything about his website because a) it's Wordpress and b) he didn't even send me the access codes. I'm just trying to stay calm for the moment.
When Do You Stop Taking Responsibility?
Let me clarify by describing four scenarios in which you are tasked with some software development. It could be a large or small task. The fourth scenario is the one I'm interested in. The first three are just for contrast.
1. You either decide how to implement the requirements, or you're given directions or constraints you agree with. (If you hadn't been given those specific directions you probably would have done the same thing anyway.) **You feel accountable for the outcome**, such as whether it works correctly or is delivered on time. And, of course, the team feels collectively accountable. (We could call this the "happy path.")
2. You would prefer to do the work one way, but you're instructed to do it a different way, either by a manager, team lead, or team consensus. You disagree with the approach, but you're not a stubborn know-it-all. You understand that their way is valid, or you don't fully understand it but you trust that someone else does. You're probably going to learn something. **You feel accountable for the outcome** in a normal, non-blaming sort of way.
3. You're instructed to do something so horribly wrong that it's guaranteed to fail badly. You're in a position to refuse or push back, and you do.
4. You're given instructions that you know are bad, you raise your objections, and then you follow them anyway. It could be a really awful technical approach, use of copy-pasted code, the wrong tools, wrong library, no unit testing, or anything similar. The negative consequences you expect could include technical failure, technical debt, or significant delays. **You do not feel accountable for the outcome.** If it doesn't work, takes too long, or the users hate it, you expect the individual(s) who gave you instructions to take full responsibility. It's not that you want to point fingers, but you will if it comes to that.
That fourth scenario could provoke all sorts of reactions. I'm interested in it for what you might call research purposes.
The final outcome is irrelevant. If it failed, whether someone else ultimately took responsibility or you were blamed is irrelevant. That it is the opposite of team accountability is obvious and also irrelevant.
Here is the question (finally!)
Have you experienced scenario number four, in which you develop software (big as an application, small as a class or method) in a way you believe to be so incorrect that it will have consequences, because someone required you to do so, and you complied *with the expectation that they, not you, would be accountable for the outcome?*
Emphasis is not on the outcome or who was held accountable, but on whether you *felt* accountable when you developed the software.
If you just want to answer yes or no, or "yes, several times," that's great. If you'd like to describe the scenario with any amount of detail, that's great too. If it's something you'd rather not share publicly you can contact me privately - my profile name at gmail.com.
The point is not judgment. I'll go first. My answer is yes, I have experienced scenario #4. For example, I've been told to copy/paste/edit code which I know will be incomprehensible, unmaintainable, buggy, and give future developers nightmares. I've had to build features I know users will hate. Sometimes I've been wrong. I usually raised objections or shared concerns with the team. Sometimes the environment made that impractical. If the problems persisted I looked for other work. But the point is that sometimes I did what I was told, and I felt that if it went horribly wrong I could say, "Yes, I understand, but this was not my decision." *I did not feel accountable.*.
I plan on writing more about this, but I'd like to start by gathering some perspective and understanding beyond just my own experience.
React native is such a pain to get started with! I feel like Ive wasted way too much time just trying to set up a functioning example. I'm too stubborn to give in. I'm about to rage code right now lol6
My top lesson was realizing that I am a stubborn person, and that I was wrong to keep trying to implement unimplemented features past a deadline and that I need to understand when to give up. I also learned that I can't trust others to finish their part of something I start. There is nothing like seeing the entire backend you wrote be gutted by someone else because they "needed to learn how route handlers work by creating it themselves" and then seeing them not complete said route handlers.
so there was this issue regarding our company's system which tends to be a problem for sometime now, its a recurring issue caused by the data that the users needs to encode to the system
today another issue arised, our senior supervisor, not knowing that this issue was already recurring and there is already a documented step procedure on how to address it, suggested or come up with a another solution which would task one of our co-developer to push a temporary code to production during business hours just to accommodate the issue and rollback the code after
take note that its during business hours and more than a hundreds of branches of the company are using the said system
what was he thinking !!
thankfully one of our colleagues voiced out explaining that this issue was already recurring and already has a procedural solution, but still our brainy-know-it-all-stubborn-close-minded heck of a supervisor insisted that the solution has computational impact and still insisted that they push a temporary code to the production, what an idiot!!
fast forward our colleagues ended up standing their ground, even if our supervisor is highly doubtful at them, and executed the already established solution instead of pushing a temporary code to the production which was such a bullshit idea
damn those close minded people they shouldn't have reach that position in the first place!!
I met @miau in England at University, through the only course we shared, Games for the Internet. I really wanted to be her friend because I thought she was pretty cool.
@miau looks incredibly confident. She has humor, imagination and is a really talented programmer.
She, on the other hand, did not want to have anything to do with other German-speaking students to improve her English skills and learn as much about England as possible.
Fortunately, I can be very stubborn. I helped her with her programming tasks whenever she let me and told her what our professor values. A few tests and beers later we were friends.3
I went back and looked at some code I wrote a couple years ago. It made me so sad... I well and truely did not understand a lot of core concept yet at the time, and I was stubborn and thought what I was writing was good and refused to start over or delete code.
This try block had 4 FileInputStream objects and I even have a defined branching statement which I never use.
Whoever marked this assignment probably needed a lot of alcohol.1
Does anybody else have the project where every time you try to change something, no matter how small, you always end up screwing it up and needing a bunch more time to fix it just to get back to the starting position?
I have this project I've done, a custom Ambilight system for my TV, and everytime I try to add a feature the lights stop working altogether... Tried adding detection of when I start my media player to automatically start the Ambilight mode (I made several modes, one of which is just shine a certain color all the time which is great if you don't want to use normal lights and want to be able to control the lights from your phone).
I had the code for detecting app start and stop from before when I implemented it for a slightly different system. I just changed the few things that are different and poof, no more lights... I managed to forget the other system checked a flag after every process exit and overrode the mode and I removed the setting of the flag, but not reading of it...
Every single time I do changes on this it's something... Other projects sometimes go smoothly, sometimes not, but this one just doesn't want to be kind to me....
Results are awesome, though :)5
I need advice fellow developers, am I stubborn?
So I lost an argument in my team regarding constant vs variable directly in a method for stored procedure names.
I separated names of procedures into their own StoredProcedureConstants file because it makes it very easy to see all procedures used in a project and refactor their names if necessary. Argument against was that you loose time creating a constant. Am I silly if I am alergic to seeing quotation marks stuff without its designated purpose throughout the code?
Their way is adding var procedureName = "cc.storeProcedureName" directly in a method. I just can't find my peace with it. To me this is a magic string.
Am I being unreasonable?3
Studied applied physics and electro engineering for 3years since I'm a stubborn idiot, went shit. Had my first code course in C and knew that I had to change education. Life quality increased by a factor of 10 for me. And I haven't looked back ever since.
I have just started working fresh out of college and don't have much experience in job hunting. But I will share what worked for me when I was in college looking for jobs.
In my opinion these are the top three qualities which we must develop while hunting a dev job.
1. Insane focus : work hard. Learn stuff. Complete lessons, projects. Do not deviate from the end goal, and work towards it.
2. Resilience : Don't lose heart over few bad interviews. Keep on trying with the same zeal.
3. Incorporate feedbacks. Don't be stubborn and arrogant. Look out for learning opportunities from any circumstance.
Best of luck
I've taken to only allowing PRs on my code if test coverage only deviates negatively within 1%
You can almost hear the tumbleweed.
But that hasn't been merged in yet
Worst part of being a dev?
When you need to work together with people that are too stubborn. Recently I needed to work together with 2 guys and when they started ranting on me for literally nothing, I realized not everyone is able to work in a team.
Now im ranting back on them.
What are your experiences with people like this and what do you do to make teamwork more enjoyable?
I'm tired of this crap. You know what? Next time, just git push directly and let code analysis/CI machines broadcast all the insults you require on slack.
Why can we deprecate a regular language like Python 2 (26 months can't come by fast enough) but yet it seems web development is impervious to the idea? If you want to make a website, you must use HTML, CSS, AND JS (or a transpiled language).
I get we use it for backwards compatibility but this combo makes web development so messy and weird, it's hard to understand from a newcomers perspective.
Maybe I'm just too stubborn to understand 🤔3