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Trying to teach coding to a kid:
Kid: Can you teach me XCode?
Me: No but I can teach you Swift or Objective-C
Kid: But I want to learn to code in XCode
Me: Yes you will code in XCode but I will teach you swift
Kid: My dad said that you actually know how to code but apparently not.12 -
Hello world, this is my first rant :)
Today at work, this was on the whiteboard.
Little "war" between the iOS pole and the PHP pole :D (Obviously PHP is better)
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My first experience with Swift ended in me infecting myself with a virus (kinda). I wanted to create a macOS app that would listen for a global key event, catch it and then type a word.
During development I set it up to listen for ANY key event and to type "BALLS". So what happened? I compiled the code, everything looked good, I started the app and pressed a key which emitted a key event. The event was caught by my app and it typed "BALLS", just as expected. However, the typing of the word caused a NEW key event to be emitted, which the app also caught. The infinite loop was a fact. FUCK!
I tried closing down XCode but all I could see was "BALLS BALLS BALLS" everywhere. I tried everything I knew but it just kept typing "BALLS". I had to hold down my power button to make it stop.
I finally finished the app (which I named "The Balls App", I kept the word "BALLS"). I solved this issue by only listening for KeyUp and when emitting the "BALLS" word I just used KeyDown.7 -
I know python , JS, java etc. Some might know php, some others might swift and so on.. but the only language understood by everyone all over the globe is this 😂(wait for it to load, and you will believe what I'm saying :P )
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Kotlin: I don't have ternary operator, it's bad for readability
Swift: I removed ++ and --, cause they are old fashioned
Dart: *screams*
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Function definition in various programming languages
//JavaScript/PHP
function myfunc()
{
}
//Swift
func myfunc()
{
}
//Kotlin
fun myfunc()
{
}
//Rust
fn myfunc()
{
}
//Next...
f myfunc()
{
}26 -
Holy moly..
Working on my MacBook and out of nowhere: *click* dead..
Try to restart it, fan spinning for a second, then: nothing.. recovery mode. Nothing..
FUCK!!
Doing research on my iPhone.. see Louis rossmann had a case like this in which one foot of the clock on the main board doesn’t have connection.
But I don’t have the right tools to open the MB..
I turn it around, shake it shake it shake it shake it baby like Taylor swift, knock on the back, knock on the keyboard and voila.. working again😪
Didn’t think that still works with modern technology..6 -
Getting the nth character of a string.
Every other language:
string[n]
Swift:
string[index(string.startIndex, offsetBy: n)]8 -
❤️ Swift ❤️
for (i = 0; i < polygon.count; i++) {
// some print statement
} **
This highly advanced and futuristic piece of code made the Swift compiler eat 14+ GB of RAM while trying to syntax-highlight, before crashing my 8 GB-equipped Macbook.
** yeah, "C-style 'for' loopz syntaxx deprecated since Swift 3 blah blah". Let's reinvent an industry-standard for no goddam reason, because Swift is the FUTURE, oh, and because fuck you by the way.3 -
When the last dev wrote code and you dared to read it....switch on a Boolean, what even is your life legacy dev?
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Hi,
I'm not a ranty person so I never actually thought I'd post anything here but here it goes.
From the beginning.
We use ancient technologies. PHP 5.2, Symfony 1.2 and a non RFC complient SOAP with NO documentation.
A year ago We've been thrown a new temporary project. An VOIP app for every OS.
That being iOS, Android, MAC, PC, Linux, Windows mobile. With a 3 month deadline. All that thrown at 4 PHP developers. The idea being that They'll take it, sign the delivery protocol, everyone happy. No more updates for the app needed. They get their funds they needed the app for and we get paid.
Fast forward to today...
Our dev team started the year with great news that We'll most likely have to create a new project. Since the amount of new features would be far greater than current feature set, we managed to finally force our boss to use newer technologies (ie. seperate backend symfony4 PHP7+/frontend react, rest api and so on). So we were ecstatic to say the least. With preestimates aimed at a minimum 3 month development period. Since we're comfortable with everything that needs to be done.
Two days later our boss came to me that one of our most annoying clients needs a new feature. Said client uses ancient version written on a napkin because They changed half of the specification 2 weaks before deadline in a software made not by a developer but some sysadmin who didn't know anything. His MVC model was practically VVV model since he even had sql queries in some views. Feature will take 3 days - fixing everything that will break in the meantime - 1-2 months.
F*** it, fine. A little overtime won't kill me.
Yesterday boss comes again... Apparently someone lost a delivery protocol for a project we ended that half a year ago. Whats even better at the time when we asked for hardware to test we never got any. When we asked about any testing enviornment - nothing. The app being SEMI-stable on everything is an overstatement but it was working on the os'es available at the time. Since the client started testing now again, it turns out that both Android app does not work on 8.1/9 and the iOS app does not work on ios12. The client obviously does not want to pay and we can do little with it without the protocol, other than rewriting the apps.
It will take months at least since all of those apps were written by people that didn't know neither the OS'es nor the languages. For example I started writing the iOS one in swift. Only to learn after half of the development time, that swift doesn't like working by C Library rules and I had to use ObjC also. With some C thrown in due to the library. 3 unknown languages, on an unknown platform in 3 months. I never had any apple device in my hand at that time nor do I intend to now. I'm astonished it worked out then. It was a clusterf**k of bad design and sticking everything together with deprecated apis and a gum. So I'll have to basically fully rewrite it.
If boss decides we'll take all those at the same time I'll f***ing jump of a bridge.8 -
First thing to do after downloading swift for linux is to obviously place the folder inside another folder named Taylor2
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If you ever use emojis for variable naming, please do a favor for the whole developer community by formatting your hard drive twice and then never touching a computer again - because you're an idiot.
Seriously though, why Apple? This screenshot is from the official Swift Language documentation...
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My girlfriend started to develop iOS. After that she says Fucking Xcode and Fucking Swift a lot of times. I couldn't understand so I also tried to study iOS. And now I say. Fucking XCODE!!4
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Even Apple believes that Xcode suggestions are not reliable... 😂😂😂
(From App Development with Swift book in iBooks Store from Apple)
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swift might be coming to android
personally I think it would be awesome to have one common language for mobile development that isn't just some hack or patchjob like some other projects are
what do you guys think?31 -
Today I learned that mobile development is a lot more difficult than web development and I’m never going to scoff at a badly designed mobile app ever again.6
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Explaining what a method does:
"""Python has docstrings"""
/** Java has javadocs */
SwiftHasSuperFreakinLongMethodNames()
Seriously Apple...7 -
Theres a debate in my company about whether or not to be using RxSwift on iOS apps. I'm not 100% convinced. Today we had two submissions for a coding challenge come in. One uses nearly all the same Rx modules this company does, one was vanilla Swift.
Just by chance noticed the vanilla app writer contributed ~5k lines of code to the challenge overall. Including libraries, the Rx one contributed ~45k.
That to me is just bat shit crazy. It would want to be the most amazing, time saving, bug reducing thing the world has ever seen to justify that volume of code.4 -
❤️ Swift ❤️
A new minor version of the compiler has been released !
How sweet !
Which comes with the latest Xcode, which is of course mandatory to deploy on your devices !
How cool !
Let me also break all your code because I've decided to change some obscure programming paradigm, and also because FUCK YOU. -
Does anybody know why java is brown in GitHub, html is red, objective-c is blue, and swift is yellow?
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Dear Swift, we have to break up. I’ve found a new language to love. Oh don’t act so surprised, you know our relationship was on shaky ground. You never let me have any fun. You’re always telling me what to do and how to do it and I’ve had enough. You treat me like a child, and I’m moving on.
Things were good in the beginning, and you may have impressed me with your automatic reference counting, but my new language can do that too, and so much more, and does it faster than you could ever imagine. You see unlike you, my new language doesn’t boss me around. It *trusts* me, Swift. That’s the one thing you never could understand. I need to be trusted; and know that I can trust in you.
Well I can’t. Not anymore, Swift. It’s over. My new language just treats me better than you ever could. I’m sorry it came to this but I deserve better than you Swift. We’ve both known this for a long time.
I wish you the best, but you probably shouldn’t call.
I’m with Rust now.1 -
After making great progress in Swift, I was advised to go back and learn Objective-C. 2hrs in I'm like...
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When you're writing unit tests in xcode and it crashes and loses its syntax colouring and autocomplete. All of a sudden you're coding on textedit instead.
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I’m a long time Objective-C and Swift developer...I’ve been asked to “research” a project using React Native.
It felt dirty to be writing an iOS app using JavaScript.
I’m still not sure why and how React Native is better/faster than native Swift.
Someone change my mind...11 -
Every language ever:
"You can't compare objects of type A and B"
Swift, on the other hand:
"main.swift:365:34: note: overloads for '==' exist with these partially matching parameter lists: (Any.Type?, Any.Type?), ((), ()), (Bool, B ool), (Character, Character), (Character.UnicodeScalarView.Index, Character.UnicodeScalarView.Index), (CodingUserInfoKey, CodingUserInfoKey ), (OpaquePointer, OpaquePointer), (AnyHashable, AnyHashable), (UInt8, UInt8), (Int8, Int8), (UInt16, UInt16), (Int16, Int16), (UInt32, UIn t32), (Int32, Int32), (UInt64, UInt64), (Int64, Int64), (UInt, UInt), (Int, Int), (AnyKeyPath, AnyKeyPath), (Unicode.Scalar, Unicode.Scalar ), (ObjectIdentifier, ObjectIdentifier), (String, String), (String.Index, String.Index), (UnsafeMutableRawPointer, UnsafeMutableRawPointer) , (UnsafeRawPointer, UnsafeRawPointer), (UnicodeDecodingResult, UnicodeDecodingResult), (_SwiftNSOperatingSystemVersion, _SwiftNSOperatingS ystemVersion), (AnyIndex, AnyIndex), (AffineTransform, AffineTransform), (Calendar, Calendar), (CharacterSet, CharacterSet), (Data, Data), (Date, Date), (DateComponents, DateComponents), (DateInterval, DateInterval), (Decimal, Decimal), (IndexPath, IndexPath), (IndexSet.Index, IndexSet.Index), (IndexSet.RangeView, IndexSet.RangeView), (IndexSet, IndexSet), (Locale, Locale), (Notification, Notification), (NSRange,
NSRange), (String.Encoding, String.Encoding), (PersonNameComponents, PersonNameComponents), (TimeZone, TimeZone), (URL, URL), (URLComponent s, URLComponents), (URLQueryItem, URLQueryItem), (URLRequest, URLRequest), (UUID, UUID), (DarwinBoolean, DarwinBoolean), (DispatchQoS, Disp atchQoS), (DispatchTime, DispatchTime), (DispatchWallTime, DispatchWallTime), (DispatchTimeInterval, DispatchTimeInterval), (Selector, Sele ctor), (NSObject, NSObject), (CGAffineTransform, CGAffineTransform), (CGPoint, CGPoint), (CGSize, CGSize), (CGVector, CGVector), (CGRect, C GRect), ((A, B), (A, B)), ((A, B, C), (A, B, C)), ((A, B, C, D), (A, B, C, D)), ((A, B, C, D, E), (A, B, C, D, E)), ((A, B, C, D, E, F), (A , B, C, D, E, F)), (ContiguousArray<Element>, ContiguousArray<Element>), (ArraySlice<Element>, ArraySlice<Element>), (Array<Element>, Array <Element>), (AutoreleasingUnsafeMutablePointer<Pointee>, AutoreleasingUnsafeMutablePointer<Pointee>), (ClosedRangeIndex<Bound>, ClosedRange Index<Bound>), (LazyDropWhileIndex<Base>, LazyDropWhileIndex<Base>), (EmptyCollection<Element>, EmptyCollection<Element>), (FlattenCollecti onIndex<BaseElements>, FlattenCollectionIndex<BaseElements>), (FlattenBidirectionalCollectionIndex<BaseElements>, FlattenBidirectionalColle ctionIndex<BaseElements>), (Set<Element>, Set<Element>), (Dictionary<Key, Value>.Keys, Dictionary<Key, Value>.Keys), ([Key : Value], [Key : Value]), (Set<Element>.Index, Set<Element>.Index), (Dictionary<Key, Value>.Index, Dictionary<Key, Value>.Index), (ManagedBufferPointer<Hea der, Element>, ManagedBufferPointer<Header, Element>), (Wrapped?, Wrapped?), (Wrapped?, _OptionalNilComparisonType), (_OptionalNilCompariso nType, Wrapped?), (LazyPrefixWhileIndex<Base>, LazyPrefixWhileIndex<Base>), (Range<Bound>, Range<Bound>), (CountableRange<Bound>, Countable Range<Bound>), (ClosedRange<Bound>, ClosedRange<Bound>), (CountableClosedRange<Bound>, CountableClosedRange<Bound>), (ReversedIndex<Base>, ReversedIndex<Base>), (_UIntBuffer<Storage, Element>.Index, _UIntBuffer<Storage, Element>.Index), (UnsafeMutablePointer<Pointee>, UnsafeMut ablePointer<Pointee>), (UnsafePointer<Pointee>, UnsafePointer<Pointee>), (_ValidUTF8Buffer<Storage>.Index, _ValidUTF8Buffer<Storage>.Index) , (Self, Other), (Self, R), (Measurement<LeftHandSideType>, Measurement<RightHandSideType>)"17 -
Area of focus: Native iOS dev
Why: Spent years trying hybrid tools, dealing with the most ridiculous errors, bugs and issues you can begin to comprehend and then ... something magical happened. I got a book on Objective-c, learned a little, tried a simple app ... and it worked ... like properly worked, and on all the devices without taking half the RAM.
I'll say that again as I don't think it landed. In Objective-c, I got no issues where only the CEO's phone + OS version meant I couldn't load a map and a pin (looking at you titanium!!!)
In Objective-c, I wasn't promised storyboards and autolayout, only to find out they are completely different, and may god help you trying to google the issues, as the only ones to show up would be the native tools (looking at you Xamarin)
In Objective-c, my app doesn't instantly consume 125mb of RAM to load a fucking webview (looking at you ... well nearly every other hybrid tool)
... it just works. Then Swift came along and things only got better.14 -
"/path/to/my/file.swift:143:34: error: cannot convert return expression of type 'String.SubSequence' (aka 'Substring') to return type 'String'"
Ah yes, I love it when Substring isn't String5 -
Me: I've got this wonderful idea, I'll try it in swift
OSX: download the 4.47 GIGABYTE Xcode
Me: :'( ok
Xcode : you need to update your OS and that's again more than 4.5 GIGABYTE
Me : Sublime -> Main.class
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Oh dear Apple,
so you're telling me that for the camera API, the requestAuthorization() method returns a bool and for the PhotoLibrary it returns an enum. Why are you going with an enum when there are 2 states and the camera api doesn't use an enum?
(The 2 methods serve the same purpose, the enum exists in the camera api as well and has the exact same states)
And why do I need access to users photos, if I only want to write photos?2 -
The first two stories on slashdot's homepage are:
1. Google releases Angular 2, breaks backwards compatibility
2. Apple releases Swift 3, breaks backwards compatibility
If you use either of those tools, why do you put up with this? When did software engineering stop being about building useful or enjoyable things for our customers, and start being about doing thankless make-work for Silicon Valley billionaire companies? Is this the legacy we want to leave to the world?4 -
Me: Ugh. I always forget to change my Slack status before leaving my computer. I wish it would just update when I locked my computer. And maybe cleared the status/set me back to active when I unlocked my computer.
*realization that I’m a programmer now*
——
A week later:
... it throws a nilError exception on every running of the Automator action to the stderr file it’s configured with, but it does what I programmed it to do. What? Why? What have I done?4 -
For those of you iOS Swift developers, how long did it take to learn and have a decent app with database functionality, coming from a different programming language background?9
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People refusing to learn an improved programming language or technology, because it might contradict to what they "already know" and you're just there mastering it and appreciating its advantages that you will never learn if you had a closed mindset.4
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Xcode: Xcode is the perfect place to make Apple Watch apps!
Apple Docs: literally nothing not even a single fucking useless piece of information
Xcode again: no8 -
❤️ Swift ❤️
Compiling fails due to many inter-dependent errors (think database deadlocks).
1 - Comment the code that produces the "locking" error.
=> Code compiles.
2 - Uncomment the code that produces the "locking" error.
=> Code compiles.
My peepee hard5 -
I was interviewing for a new position that would be primarily Android development with a chance that I would help out on iOS when necessary. When I got their coding challenge, it had to be done for iOS in Swift. Made no sense, but now I can say I finally wrote a project in Swift.
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!rant
Need some opinions. Joined a new company recently (yippee!!!). Just getting to grips with everything at the minute. I'm working on mobile and I will be setting up a new team to take over a project from a remote team. Looking at their iOS and Android code and they are using RxSwift and RxJava in them.
Don't know a whole lot about the Android space yet, but on iOS I did look into Reactive Cocoa at one point, and really didn't like it. Does anyone here use Rx, or have an opinion about them, good or bad? I can learn them myself, i'm not looking for help with that, i'm more interested in opinions on the tools themselves.
My initial view (with a lack of experience in the area):
- I'm not a huge fan of frameworks like this that attempt to change the entire flow or structure of a language / platform. I like using third party libraries, but to me, its excessive to include something like this rather than just learning the in's / out's of the platform. I think the reactive approach has its use cases and i'm not knocking the it all together. I just feel like this is a little bit of forcing a square peg into a round hole. Swift wasn't designed to work like that and a big layer will need to be added in, in order to change it. I would want to see tremendous gains in order to justify it, and frankly I don't see it compared to other approaches.
- I do like the MVVM approach included with it, but i've easily managed to do similar with a handful of protocols that didn't require a new architecture and approach.
- Not sure if this is an RxSwift thing, or just how its implemented here. But all ViewControllers need to be created by using a coordinator first. This really bugs me because it means changing everything again. When I first opened this app, login was being skipped, trying to add it back in by selecting the default storyboard gave me "unwrapping a nil optional" errors, which took a little while to figure out what was going on. This, to me, again is changing too much in the platform that even the basic launching of a screen now needs to be changed. It will be confusing while trying to build a new team who may or may not know the tech.
- I'm concerned about hiring new staff and having to make sure that they know this, can learn it or are even happy to do so.
- I'm concerned about having a decrease in the community size to debug issues. Had horrible experiences with this in the past with hybrid tech.
- I'm concerned with bugs being introduced or patterns being changed in the tool itself. Because it changes and touches everything, it will be a nightmare to rip it out or use something else and we'll be stuck with the issue. This seems to have happened with ReactiveCocoa where they made a change to their approach that seems to have caused a divide in the community, with people splitting off into other tech.
- In this app we have base Swift, with RxSwift and RxCocoa on top, with AlamoFire on top of that, with Moya on that and RxMoya on top again. This to me is too much when only looking at basic screens and networking. I would be concerned that moving to something more complex that we might end up with a tonne of dependencies.
- There seems to be issues with the server (nothing to do with RxSwift) but the errors seem to be getting caught by RxSwift and turned into very vague and difficult to debug console logs. "RxSwift.RxError error 4" is not great. Now again this could be a "way its being used" issue as oppose to an issue with RxSwift itself. But again were back to a big middle layer sitting between me and what I want to access. I've already had issues with login seeming to have 2 states, success or wrong password, meaning its not telling the user whats actually wrong. Now i'm not sure if this is bad dev or bad tools, but I get a sense RxSwift is contributing to it in some fashion, at least in this specific use of it.
I'll leave it there for now, any opinions or advice would be appreciated.16 -
Swift changes syntax again! Apple is treating their language like an Apple product. Why can't they decide? What's that? you have a project? Goodluck converting your code when we decide to change everything ;)6
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Why is it that whenever I show someone the app I made that they always suggest a bunch of fucking idiotic features. What is bloody wrong with "Wow, cool app you made".10
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Fuck swift and xcode and IOS development
Because every fucking guide and tutorial and code example out there is already outdated including some from last month
Because every relevant pod out there change their specs more often than I change my socks
Because you have to do every fucking thing on your own
Because you have to catch 812375 things that can possibly go wrong
Because making a simple JSON request takes 5 screens of code
Because of the five fucking million typing errors you get every damn minute fuck you swift
Because of the 150 page API docs for the simplest fucking things
Because of all the code lost to xcode crashes every couple minutes
Because Apple promised a language and a framework that allows for rapid hassle-free development yet this is exactly the opposite
Because all the money we're paying for all this shit when it's not worth even 1% of it4 -
❤️ Swift ❤️
"Module compiled with Swift 5.1.3 cannot be imported by the Swift 5.2.4 compiler"
but srsly5 -
GOD DAMN !@^@ react-native bridge to #@$^&ing objective-c bridge to an intermediate objective-c friendly #$@!ing swift class to communicate to a @$#!ing external swift framework #$@!ing POS!
And $!@# you Apple Mach-O Linker error!5 -
Having to write Swift and Kotlin for a while at work and now switching back to working on web technologies (for a different job), I would say JavaScript is ugly.4
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Hey everybody been a while but I have a rant. Swift fucking swift and IOS dev. Okay so been learning swift for some frontend casual work, no worries they are lending me a mac to work in.
Now comes the rant part IOS is fine to work in I dont have any qualms about platform but.. FOR THE LOVE OF COMMON FUCKING SENSE GET SOME FUCKING CONSISTENCY.
You have made swift statically typed language to supposedly make developing more consistant and better fine no worries i dont like static typed languages cause they are unnecessary but fine. then you go NAH FUCK IT EVERYTHING IN A MODULE IS IN GLOBAL SCOPE, FUCK IMPORT STATEMENTS, FUCK MAINTAINABILITY AND FUCK YOU FOR ASKING.6 -
Just developed my first interactive iPhone app using Swift!
It's only basic, changing the screen when tapped from black to white like a flashlight, but feels great to have done it after learning the language over the past few weeks. 😊2 -
I decided to learn Swift as I would like to make apps. So I installed swift and swift-jupyter in my Linux server after my 2012 iMac literally took 20 fucking minutes to compile `print("hello world")` in Playgrounds. Meanwhile, my server compiles python code in a swift jupyter notebook in seconds.
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COBOL, Clipper, DBase, FlashCode, DOS 3.30, Novell, dot-Printers ... Now learning Swift... Emojis for variables! ... I'm to old for this..... Damn millennial languages.
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Lately I needed to write some swift code and I‘ve never used it before. But acutually I find such a beautiful langange, maybe the one with the best type system ever.
Swift for the win!5 -
I was thinking maybe I could learn Swift. Then I saw the accepted pull request about deleting i++ and i-- operators...
Seriously wtf, i mean OK setting them as deprecated, but deleting ? Dude no3 -
Had a swift 2.0 project with 32 warnings.
*updates project to Swift 3.0*
756 warnings. Can anyone beat me?3 -
Started learning Python from Java, C#, Objective-C, Swift.
It’s like Rocket Engineer who have to build a car. It’s easy but you have to learn almost everything from the beginning.6 -
Anyone have one of the new MacBook Pros with Touchbar? I'm looking for some project ideas to work on.
I already am working on a project for the Pi-hole project (network wide ad-blocking) but I am looking for some other good ideas. I think Apple's view of the Touchbar fell short, but as developers I think it opens up a lot of possibilities to use it as a great information/monitoring tool.
I am also still learning Objective-C and Swift so I am a newbie.
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Side project is swift. Loads of feedback! I'm happy. Fucked up part is the users who wants it uses Android. Oh well, time to learn React Native2
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Having to use Xcode 4 alongside the new 8 to support old iOS versions. I almost wrote the code twice, once in Swift and once in Obj-C.
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Guys.... Were getting famous?
Oh shit that's Facebook....
* Posts the screenshot and runs away :) *
Taylor Swift...... You betrayed?
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When it’s 3am and you are working on an exception for more than 2 hours and have optimized your whole code just to be sure and remember you are writing swift not java: some ints have low max value like UInt8.
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I sexually identify as Objective-C
I actually would love to write everything in objective c
Even my node/react applications7 -
If you wanna think that I'm a bad programmer, that's ok, but I can't put up anymore with Xcode.
Jesus Christ. An entire afternoon spent trying to make an array with two dimensions. I tried every fucking way I found in SO, in the apple site and in every another site that I found in my way.
First: For every example for Swift 3 there's another 10 for Swift <3.
Second: Mutable arrays, as I'm noticing, aren't a thing anymore, so, to declaring array size we go! Except it's impossible to. Tried 3 different ways. Not a single one worked.
Third: Actually, one of the 3 tries worked, for int arrays, and for some obscure reason it won't work for strings, as declaring the array as [String] is too general for swift, I mean, I completely agree with it, a [String] array could contain anything right???? FUCK NO. IT CONTAINS STRINGS YOU FUCKER!!!!
I swear, if the equipment was mine and not from the office, I would have thrown that piece of shit which disconnects from the fucking computer every 30 seconds that apple calls keyboard out of the window already.
Why the fuck do I need to develop for iOS in swift/xcode?? There's so many cross platform alternatives out there, good ones in fact, but no, we must build the applications natively or else the phone will catch on fire according to my boss.
I kinda liked Apple until now.
From now on? Fuck Apple.10 -
Unrealistic employer:
Looking for a Full Stack developer with 8 years experience in Swift and 10 years experience with PHP.2 -
Swift 1 and 2 were really pain in the ass!! You had to write God damn completed word of each statement. Eg : "presentViewController" is now "present" in Swift 3. Or that fucking "NS" in every object :)))
Thanks God! Thanks Apple! No more bull shit keyword!2 -
I keep jumping between unfinished personal projects and then i get busy with the job, when I try to go back to them, I lose interest! Any advice?7
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Notice how the Apple code samples have moved from the very well designed Objective C to a mature Swift... (sorry, typo, manure Swift) Swift 1.0, wait 2.0, no hold on 3.0, oh yea 4.0. It's a moving target for their developers with code samples all over the place...
Once Swift stabilizes, sure, ok, force everyone and everything to change (seriously?).
Apple, why the FUCK do you think we want to deal with your beta crap forced down our throat? Its bad enough the language is an inconsistent illogical mess but having to come along with you for the 'we-don't-have-a-clue-what-we-are-doing' ride is utter bullshit. Leave the GOD DAMN Objective C samples up for crying out loud.6 -
How I always feel about Xcode when compiling Swift code, opening storyboard files, or just in general.
We need to make some of these stickers. ++
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When Xcode 9.3 is available, but Swift.org hasn’t updated to Swift 4.1 yet.
What the hell? 🤦🏻♂️
Update:: just kidding, it shows apparently. Ugh.2 -
I've been writing Java the last few days. Really makes me remember why I enjoy writing objective c / swift so much. It's not necessarily the crazy syntax of objective c. It's the conventions behind the languages. It's very easy to make your code read like prose. Which when you become used to this it's very hard to jump back into spaghetti code with abbreviated variable names and such.3
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Being a full stack developer has been an amazing journey. Looking at a project and understanding how the entire stack work starting from the mobile apps, APIs and DB is a total bless.
Nevertheless, lately switching context between modern languages has been extremely frustrating.
Swift looks like kotlin, elixir looks like ruby. Hell even swift and ruby are very similar.
Writing ruby in Xcode and wondering why the fuck Xcode complaining. Well no shit, swift is not ruby. Took me 5 mins of head scratching to notice it 😢
Hell I am now writing down the latest language I am working with on my hand to keep track 😂
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Awkward, but the only possible way.
Either I didnt figure it out or shame at Apple, this is not a good way to handle this.
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It drives me Insane that AWS still doesn't support Swift 3 for iOS. We're almost to the point where Apple is going to drop Swift 2 support in XCode and Amazon STILL has not gotten it.
I've started deploying Gateway APIs in Objective-C and linking them to the bridging header just so we can finally move foreword in our company and quit relying on legacy Swift support. Which is something I was really trying to avoid because we don't like mixing languages unless absolutely necessary. It's not a problem, but it's incredibly annoying to me. What IS a problem is having to start new projects already using legacy code from the very beginning.
What is amazon going to do when the next release of XCode comes out? Tell all new customers to downgrade?
Why even offer native Swift APIs if you're going to go this long and still not migrate, Amazon?! -
My life ends in a simple sentence:
"Unexpectedly found nil while unwrapping an optional value"
Only Swift developers will understand.2 -
I don't know if our QA is good enough. We were developing an app for both ios and android. I, an ios developer, told the QA guy that it will take long before uploading the app in the testflight (convert swift2 to swift3). After a week the app is now uploaded in the test flight and at the same time my partner, an android developer, uploaded the android version of the app in the play store beta. The QA guy started to raise bug issues about the android version. He wanted to fix the bugs immediately since our boss needed to upload it in the play store and appstore. The QA guy kept on complaining to my partner why the android version is buggy. Then he said something we, me and my partner, facepalm.
The QA guy said " You shouldn't convert the app to swift 3. The ios version is fine when converted why the android version is buggy. You need to revert it back to swift 2"
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I am ashamed of myself.
Because despite the fact that I have nothing but hate and contempt towards apple and their money-grabbing paradigm and overpriced hardware and extortionist practices they apply to pretty much everyone, I found myself earlier today thinking:
"this Swift shit wasn't so bad this time around"
Somehow my poor excuse of a brain feels dirtier after this particular thought than it felt 12 years ago when I was running the dirtiest scato animal fetish porn sites of that era.
I think I need a vacation, possibly some months away on an island naked with a couple 22 year old twins licking ice cream off my pole all day long.5 -
Just saw a job ad asking 8+ years of Swift experience.
Swift is a language that appeared 4 years ago >:-(2 -
I can't stand Swift's initializers. No other languages have the problem with constructors/initializers that Swift does. It's a complete failure of a feature and to hell with safety if it comes with this cost.
Just to illustrate how ridiculous it gets, I want to have a class where my initialization logic can be split among reusable parts. That is, the logic that initializes the class with no parameters has logic that I want to reuse in my other initializers. Simple DRY stuff. Well, the only way I can do that in Swift is if I use a convenience initializer that calls another one. But convenience initializers have completely different rules from designated initializers (again, something only Swift does).
For example, you can't access "self" until you call a designated initializer. You can't chain designated initializers, and if you want to chain anything in the same class you have to handcuff yourself by using a "convenience" initializer (there's nothing convenient about them, I might add).
So now I want to subclass my class and initialize myself using one of my superclass initializers. Oh but the one I want to call is a *convenience* initializer so I can't, unless I turn my new initializer into a convenience initializer. Except wait, a convenience initializer must delegate with self.init(), so it can't even call a superclass initializer!
And it just goes round and round and round. I don't know if I should try to convert all of my initializers to convenience initializers or the other way around.
Why all this nonsensical madness? Get rid of the distinction and go back to nice clean powerful initializers like Objective-C. I mean what does it have to take? This is a complete nightmare.13 -
Good job Apple! Swift is actually very nice language, now that it supports Linux and is open source, it is even nicer
https://swift.org/blog/...2 -
Looks familiar?
I really need to start giving more descriptive names when I test code..
Var that=
Vat thatt=
Var thattt=
....
Func workFFS=4 -
Spent an entire week working on XCode configurations for a react-native+swift+objc bridging project. Been failing builds all week. Finally i look over to see the glorious word Succeeded!
Then I realized it was the clean that succeeded, not the build. FFS1 -
The awkward moment when you name your dictionary "dic" and realize that while explaining a piece of code to a female colleague. 😳1
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Our Swift teacher at college manually creates a Podfile for every project and copies and pastes the basic initialization from an existing project, pastes the cocoapod dependencies and then installs them using terminal instead of just doing a pod init and then using nano or vim to paste the dependencies right inside the terminal. These are the times I genuinely feel sad for the way Indian education system is and the way we're taught coding in colleges here.11
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Me coding in swift:
func doStuff() {
// code
}
"oh I see the code isn't working yet. Let me try this"
func doStuff() {
DispatchQueue.main.async {
// code
}
}4 -
When you’re out of town for the night and you left your MacBook at home on your desk... what a genius I am.1
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Swift SUCKS
Why?
Because of its absolutely useless complexity...
a total simple thing: i have a string and want to concat a integer with it, so:
var x = stringVar + intVar; right? NO
its var x = stringVar + String(intVar);
or getting the index of a element in a array?
var index = array.indexOf(element); thats logic, right??? Not for swift, gotta go with: var index = array.index(of: element); WTF??!!
And all the other shit: nil instead of null, int++? Nope.
And there are SO MANY MORE things, where u just think, Apple really though different........than all normal coding languages.......
I´ll honestly rather learn C and recode Ios or have a look at objective-c...17 -
So frustrating to learn Swift when I already know objective-c. It's like I know what I'm doing, but really, I don't
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Most popular programming languages.
It's just funny they used different images for the language specially for Swift, Typescript, C# and specially Python
https://amp.businessinsider.com/the...4 -
Me: Build Swift 3 Project got 1 warning: Conversion to swift 4 available. : “Let’s try that” after that archives it: 100 warnings and 20 errors -_-5
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I can remember a day which I really close to crying why my code doesn't work! Then I remember that fucking line of code should be run async! :/
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Is it me, or writing Swift after several JavaScript apps feels like writing "serious" code once again?6
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“Hey, did you know that the new Xcode never crashes again?”...
In the middle of the night, in my dreams... -
Why the hell is the standard size of swift views 0. Who thought it would be a great thing not knowing why the view is not showing.1
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Is it just me, or is it the worst possible time to jump into coding for Apple products?
I remember trying to figure out Xcode a few years back and making some small bit of headway. More recently it seems that all the old tutorials in Objective-C are out-of-date, and half the Swift ones won't compile because of mutually incompatible versions...1 -
I know that there is no bad programming languages.
But there are one exception.
Swift 3.
You can't use c styled code! Why????
Wtf???
Do you have anything against C?
If you do, why?1 -
So, I’m on interview 3 with a company looking to build a cross platform app.
They posed the question of what we should use to build it; React Native or Flutter? Or just go native with Swift and Kotlin individually? What’s your thoughts?
I’m really interested in this conversation.2 -
Pro Tip
Don't try to compile Swift from scratch expecting to use your computer for anything else at the same time. CPU 999%6 -
Hey Swift, “Look what you made me do”! I have lost all my “reputation” in Xcode crashes!
Yes, Apple, “No one has to know”, except me...2 -
LOL XCode....I think they meant "X"tra useless, resembling such as a bag of dicks without handles!!!!
Also, being fucking buried because there's aren't any devs anywhere to be found near me makes me extra cranky!
Ive been hammering away at this Flutter, Java, Swift, Python, and Google maps for just about 36 hours on 3.5 hrs sleep. I just can't stop, I fuckin love this shit!!!
Considering the fact that I'm self taught and just started writing code for real about 7 months ago, I'd say I'm handling this alright for now. Every bit of tech is getting shot out of a cannon at this one- maps, real time tracking, state level auth/Id verification, custom components like ID scans/native desktop applications on custom linux machines, body cams, SIP trunking... all in 3 apps which are 100% multi-platform and scaled up to high end enterprise levels and being groomed for national release. I'm writing the code and doing the tech for ALL of it- even down to custom painted barcode scanners, a wallet system built from scratch, GPS integration, location/geofence based document querying... holy fuck guys I'm gonna fuckin die haha!!!
I went from barely getting websites made in late summer to this very moment, where I am pumping shit out in Flutter, Dart, Python, CPP, Js, Swift, Java, Kotlin, Obj-C, SQL/noSQL, and who knows what else.
I don't even know what the hell I just said haha I hope everyone has a great day! -
guard let param = param, otherParam == .someValidValue else { return }
Beautiful one-liner that validates your function's parameters without having to incur in another indentation level. -
Hi, everybody.
I have been working on an IOS app for a while and I´m about to finish it, and I would like to share it with developers and users from around the world.
Any idea of how to reach as many persons as possible? How and where to share the app?
Thank You for your responses!2 -
https://imgur.com/a/U99lBrd
excuse the Imgur link.
This is how a detailed rant view would look like.
The top picture is going to be the full big picture of the avatar of the user who posted the rant / collab / whatever18 -
Yesterday Ibdid buy an iPhone. I did it to learn swift development and people started to tell me that it was stupid.
I know I could have just used my emulator on my Mac but I just do not want to, testings apps is better in their real envieonment
I hope you guys understand my point, I am getting tired of all this "you stupid iPhone owner" shit
PD: I regret nothing3 -
Use Swift Package Manager, they said.
I'll be great, they said.
"Note that at this time the Package Manager has no support for iOS, watchOS, or tvOS platforms." - https://github.com/apple/... -
!rant
Learning iOS/Swift Programmer here.
I feel like Apple’s Developer Documentation is extremely hard to parse.
For one problem, it feels like there are 50 similar ways to deal with it; but only one way will actually work.
There also aren’t enough examples in the docs for me either, they just seem to go: “Here’s some code, figure out what it’s purpose is.” for most things.
I also feel stupid, because I’m using the Hacking with Swift tutorials to learn iOS Development(Great Tutorials Though); and I don’t know how to just build an app from scratch. (i.e. creating swift files and assets and compiling from the terminal.)
And using StackOverflow feels like cheating.
Lastly, I feel awful inside when other people see my work and think I’m a genius, when really, I feel like I barely know anything at all.
I’m I alone in this observation?
Or just dumb?5 -
Project I’m working on is required to be in React-Native...I’m a Swift/Obj-C developer. I wrote two lines of React code and then I have spent the last 3 hours trying to get dependencies for a single library installed to run the project again...
Tell me how React Native is a better and faster way to develop apps over native code???
This seems like a waste.11 -
So I just started learning Swift, and I think it's modern, beautiful and a bit weird. Like the Portuguese of programming languages.
I think it should be used more.3 -
!rant
Just posted some swift code to a server, in a few hours I should have all the prime numbers from 1 to a billion!4 -
OK, so with a lot of free time on my hands, I figured I'll finally sit down and figure out how to use Xcode and write iOS apps.
Hit the iBookstore and check out the latest version of their guide to "App Development in Swift", and...promptly run into a brick wall because it's based on Xcode 10 and Xcode 11 seems to organize projects in a completely different manner.
Decide I'll just hit developer.apple.com and check the resources there...to find they're all written for Xcode 8.
Online tutorials have been mostly misses because of mutual incompatibilities between different versions of Swift rendering anything but the latest version useless, it seems.
Which is a long way of asking, does anyone know of any good resources for someone trying to finally figure all this out?5 -
Swift.
First, they added features that no developer understand : what the fuck is an optional value ?
And the documentation for iOS development is horrible. It took me 5 days to understand how the fuck we can make a POST HTTP Request with this fucking bad framework.3 -
Instead of adopting the ` character to represent multi-line string literals like JavaScript, Swift opts for three consecutive double-quotes. """ smh4
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Objective-C syntax is more readable than Swift.
The verbose naming conversations feel natural in Objective-C, but in Swift they look rather nasty to me.
Also Swift syntax feels inconsistent in many parts of the language, which forces you to memorize when you can and when you can't use a certain feature (i.e where, case).
Am I the only one that thinks Objective-C looks a lot cleaner than Swift code?
Note: This is an opinion, not trying to start a war. Just curious if I'm alone on this.8 -
Hello everybody,
I have an idea for an app and waned to get your opinion on what I should use.
I have experience in Java and ReactJs, but nothing in Swift.
So, I want to know what you all would suggest - should I use React Native or Java and Swift to create both my android and iOS app? I have read mixed reviews concerning React Native and its use longterm? However, it seems like its the easier options to push out both and Android and iOS app.
I'm very unsure, any suggestions would be much appreciated.6 -
Me and @asafniv cannot settle this argument and we need your conclusion.
What syntax makes more sense, Objective-C or Swift?
In my opinion, Swift's syntax is better than Objective-C, but Asaf's opinion the the opposite.
We failed to settle this argument and that is why we need YOU to give us your opinion.
In the comments I will send 2 identical functions, one is written in Objective-C, and one is written in Swift.17 -
//In the code block below. What are both self methods refering to? do both self methods refer to the Suit enum because it is inside the enum block? I am trying to better understand self. Please see link for expanded question.
enum Suit {
case spades, hearts, diamonds, clubs
var rank: Int {
switch self {
case .spades: return 4
case .hearts: return 3
case .diamonds: return 2
case .clubs: return 1
}
}
func beats(_ otherSuit: Suit) -> Bool {
return self.rank > otherSuit.rank
}
}
https://code.sololearn.com/c9KIG0ab...1 -
When xcode wont stop whinging about your lack of updating a var since creation. Yes. Its currently looking immutable but will be updated in a short while when I get to that code!!!!! Hence the reason for var!
Everything
"Oh Lord, let there be var".
You c what I did there? 😜👊 -
seeing wwdc keynote and asking myself is there anything left they shouldn't cover and reply came from inside.
what do you want in iOS now??? Harry Potter?
they fucking opened there OS like never before -
That moment when you really want to try swift but Ubuntu. I can do this on Mac(in house) but I prefer laptop with Ubuntu in work 😩2
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I had an idea for an open source project, but wanted to get some feedback before I committed a lot of time and energy to it. Seeing as how devRant is the only social media type app I use, I thought this would be a good place to ask.
The project would be an open source keyboard for iOS that would make it easier for devs to write code on their mobile devices. There's already a few "developer" keyboards, but they're either paid apps, or haven't been updated in a while.
Creating a custom keyboard isn't very complex, so it could be a good place for newer devs to actually contribute code and get comfortable with open source in general.
So my question is, do people use third party keyboards? Is this something people would be interested in contributing to? Should I go back to the drawing board?3 -
Question for iOS Swift guys:
Since Implicitly Unwrapped Optionals are now dropped for a while, and everything is an optional, hiw can I now declare property that has no value and intializer will not make fuss?
I used to do this:
class Bullet {
var calibre: Double!
}
This way I can avoid initializer which gets useful when there are properties which hold complex types, which get useful when writing tests.
If I remove ! Then compiler complains.
If I put ? Then My code becomes crap of guards and ifs to check for optionals.
Really hate this Optional thing in Swift. Half my time when I jave an issue is related to optionals.
Btw,
let x: Int! = 10
let y = x, yields y: Int? -
Started building an app for school to do something with indoor localization. We must use Crownstones (smart outlets, google it) for the project but in order for indoor localization to work we need 4 Crownstones. School only gave us 2. :/
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I recently started writing blog articles, mainly on iOS and Swift 😁 I would be very happy about feedback!
Here is my latest article:
https://link.medium.com/BUhhoegDo01 -
So I want to make an app...
You sign up with an email and phone number which is connected to a firebase or something idk yet
You add all your friends/family through email or phone number
When you need to, if you go to one of your friends, it will send notifications to your friends phone and will force it to make a sound on full volume, even if it’s on silent. Sort of like a find my iPhone for friends, or when you need them in a n emergency and you think they’re sleeping.
Of course they’ll be options to turn it off/block incoming notifications.
How would I go about doing like the whole connecting to the other phone part?5 -
I have a weird problem ...
There’s an existing swift app, with Apple sign in implemented and working.
When I took over I had to revoke app certificates and create new one. Since then the Apple sign in stopped working.
I’ve tried clean rebuild etc , even tried renewing old profiles with the new cert but nothing is working.
When u do Apple sign in it says “sign up not completed” with no error msg.
Old dev says it happened last time when cert/profile was changed but fixed on proper rebuild. Not fixing for me.
Anybody else faced this?5 -
Any good programming language with great generics support that is not dynamic ?
Rust generics sucks so much I puked 2 times.
Tried with swift and it looks great.
Golang doesn’t have them.
Java sucks.
Maybe I try julia if someone say it’s cool.
I want to implement some 2d vector algebra and simple physics engine.
I started by creating generic 2d vector and trying to create dot product from it.
I didn’t wanted to do it in swift but wasted 2 days trying to do it in rust vs 1 hour in swift including 49 minutes of installing swift tools.
Anyway anyone know performant language with good generics support, let me know in comments.41 -
Oh god no anything but this
(Seriously now, the reason is a bit complicated because Swift is different but focus on the meme, if you want an explanation I will give it to you in the comments lol)
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XCode is so terrible. I have to force quit it several times a day in so many use cases. I wonder why Apple cares so little about us developers. I dream with the day they’ll make XCode a good IDE. Everytime I run maps on the simulator my CPU goes to 700% and every time I checkout a branch, the thing hangs there so I have to forcf quit it 😠😫
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Nice to meet you, where you've been? I can show you legacy code.
C, Python, Ruby and Node.
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I feel like I didn't do this right and I'm a tad confused as to what they mean when they say that the function should look like this when you call it:
let line = openingLine(verb: "row", noun: "boat")
Is my solution correct?
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Some iOS APIs are just retarded.
Apple's retarded double negative:
myUIButton.isHidden = fasle
How about just:
myUIButton.isShown = true4 -
Uh so I can’t really find a clear answer to this but, can you program iOS apps with C# or not because I’m only seeing shit on fuckin Swift. More like swiftly beating myself to death with a wooden bat6
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Most of my previous experience is in Java but my current area of focus is iOS apps for healthcare. Patient casenote management system and an electronic form solution for paramedics in ambulances. Im currently using both Java and Swift for my dissertation, an iOS app with a Java backend using Dropwizard for REST. iOS can be good but Im eager to get away from Objective-C. I wouldnt mind going back to java full time or even maybe C# since they are basically the same thing.
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I hope Scott Meyers is learning Swift, because it's gaining so many edge cases and keyword-level features that programmers who use it will need an "Effective Swift" book to tell them which language features to avoid to get their work done.
I wonder whether it will survive that complexity as C++ did, or collapse under the weight like Perl. -
Want to start writing swift for iOS, but I'm split between using AppCode and/or Xcode. Any suggestions? :)2
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I want to expand my skills in swift, and want to build a project to do so. Any ideas/challenges for what I can build?1
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For an app, to be available in IOS and Android, i need to code it in both languages (Swift and Java)? or there is another way to do it?8
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Is there any references sheet or books that I can use to start quickly with native iOS development? I'm using Flutter and need to interface with native swift code since there is no plugin that suit my purpose. I only know Android native and never touched any iOS stuff before.6
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Okay I usually like Swift, but why did they have to make parsing JSON such a pain in the ass?? You have to loop through every child collection and should give up the type that it should be. Obviously you could work around this by writing some sort of wrapper but if I want to do a simple request to an API it results it so much unnecessary code.1
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To those who use server-side Swift, which one do you prefer: Perfect OR Vapor? Thanks for your opinion.1
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Why do I struggle sooooo much with xCode and Swift just trying to place a button in the View that when you click, runs a function? I can do this very easily with Visual Studio and C# but not xCode.
Anyone know a good (simple) tutorial video on creating views with xCode and Swift? Every one I’ve seen all assume that you have programmed in Swift for over 10 years.2 -
What are nice apps to learn swift dev? :) I'm tired of all those TO-DO's apps or calculators
I wanna build something that makes me explore the capabilities of the language in deep, not just the tip
I read your comments :33 -
When you start working on android app development, but you always forgot to put a "(" at the start and ")" at the end of an if statement or for statement, because you got used working on Swift Programming. Haha1
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Oh come the fuck on.
I’m trying to build a SwiftUI app and I can’t decrypt a video while it’s buffering using DisptchQueue? Wtf do you mean “UI must live on the main queue?” I AM running it on the main queue and it fucking crashes!!!
Please, if anybody knows how to use DispatchQueues correctly in Swift, HIT ME UP! I NEED SERIOUS HELP IN THIS BITCH -
Any good tuto sharing about dispatch queue on swift 4? Have already googled the subject, but any real experience will be greatly appreciated.
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hey everyone like a the past few months i got my laptop but now im planing to get a mac just for the sake on developing ios apps more on practice and by far project execution like a mid level project the question is will the new macbook air(2018) the one with the i5-y proci do good in terms of development? my options are entry level only mainly for swift and react-native dev
Options:
MBA 2018
RAM 8gb
SSD 256gb
i5(Amber Lake-Y 7 W Dual-Core)
or
MB Pro 2018
RAM 8gb
SSD 256gb
i5(7th-generation)
please help me out since im planing to get it later, thanks3 -
OKAY GUYS I NEED YOU. I have an idea for an app (bet you’ve heard that before haha) and I really want to make it.
I have to learn swift, so online tutorials are my go to (pls recommend material).
However, I’ve never really done backend before, and I’ll need it to make my project (accounts & stuff). Where do I start for swift/iOS backend programming? Do I need to buy a server? Where do I host the stuff?
Pls help8 -
Any upto date and maintained swift library (pod) that enables easy integration with fontawesome or material icons ?
The ones from thii, fail for buttons icons. The others are not maintained projetcs.
Any suggestions ?
On android i use the mikepenz amazing library, but cannot find anything similar for ios.
Haaaalp1 -
Semi-rant
Saw an ad that required 8+ years experience in Swift.. Didn't Swift come out like... 4 years ago? Can these recruiters have a sense of what they're doing and the area they're in please. Not just this one, but many others as well.1 -
Hey iOS devs 👋🏻 have you ever released an app internally without the Apple developer program? 🤔I need an alternative and I hope you can help me please3
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I ❤ Swift and Xcode. However, tempted to learn React Native. Just so that I can put my apps on both the App Stores. Also ability to get more projects. What do you think? Is it worth learning? Thank you for the feedback in advance!😀1
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Seriously. Is there ANY way to work with my colleagues on the same xcode project, or is it fucked, and have to manually copy-paste storyboards, and .swift files? I found that it’s the easiest way so far. Any recommendations?6
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