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I had someone come ask me what language I was programming in.
I responded with "dart"
They then said "no. What PROGRAMMING language?"
I said "ya. That's what dart is."
They said "no. Programming languages are HTML, JavaScript, and CSS"
I was too tired to explain...24 -
!rant
Has anyone been paying attention to what Google's been up to? Seriously!
1) Fuchsia. An entire OS built from the ground up to replace Linux and run on thin microcontrollers that Linux would bog down — has GNU compilers & Dart support baked in.
2) Flutter. It's like React Native but with Dart and more components available. Super Alpha, but there's "Flutter Gallery" to see examples.
3) Escher. A GPU-renderer that coincidentally focuses on features that Material UI needs, used with Fuchsia. I can't find screenshots anywhere; unfortunately I tore down my Fuchsia box before trying this out. Be sure to tag me in a screenshot if you get this working!
4) Progressive Web Apps (aka Progress Web APKs). Chrome has an experimental feature to turn Web Apps into hybrid native apps. There's a whole set of documentation for converting and creating apps.
And enough about Google, Microsoft actually had a really cool announcement as well! (hush hush, it's really exciting for once, trust me)...
Qualcomm and Microsoft teamed up to run the full desktop version of Windows 10 on a Snapdragon 820. They go so far as to show off the latest version of x86 dekstop Photoshop with no modifications running with excellent performance. They've announced full support for the upcoming Snapdragon 835, which will be a beast compared to the 820! This is all done by virtualization and interop libraries/runtimes, similar to how Wine runs Windows apps on Linux (but much better compatibility and more runtime complete).
Lastly, (go easy guys, I know how much some of you love Apple) I keep hearing of Apple's top talent going to Tesla. I'm really looking forward to the Tesla Roof and Model 3. It's about time someone pushed for cheap lithium cells for the home (typical AGM just doesn't last) and made panels look attractive!
Tech is exciting, isn't it!?40 -
!rant
Worked all day and got my embedded systems project working the first time! Bluetooth as well! 😁
It's a Fitbit clone that keeps track of steps that I did from scratch and writing the companion app from scratch as well in flutter/dart. Ask any questions if you're curious!
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Java is to JavaScript
: what Car is to Carpet
: what Swift is to Suzuki Swift
: what Perl is to a Pearl
: what Ruby is to a Ruby Gemstone
: what Go is to Go Home
: what Shell is to Sea Shell
: what Bash is to Big Bash
: what Alice is to Alice in wonderland
: what Rust is to Rusty Theron
: what Awk is to your Awkward cousin
: what Dart is to Darts
: what Julia is to Julia Roberts
: what Korn is to Corn
: what Maple is to Syrup
: what Caml is to a Camel
: what CHILL is to Netflix
: what Crack is to Crack
: what Curl is to Curls
: what Hugo is to Boss
To be continued..
Have a joke? Say it in comments
Criteria : programming language on left , analog on right16 -
Programmer's son asks his father:
Dad, why do the sun rises on the east and sets on the west ?
Father: It works ! Do not dare to touch it.4 -
Kotlin: I don't have ternary operator, it's bad for readability
Swift: I removed ++ and --, cause they are old fashioned
Dart: *screams*
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Me, doing ui design: 'hm, i feel like jumping into machine learning right now'
Me, writing a ml chatbot: 'but what if i extend flutter with my old custom android components'
Me, porting java components to dart: 'hold on, p5js has vectors, i could make a physical simulation'
Me to me: 'why are you like this'10 -
>writing app
>everything works
>commits to gitlab
>writes some extra stuff
>everything breaks
>why.jpeg
>head_desk.mp4
>"resetting to previous commit should work"
>doesn't work
>everything's broken on the previous commit
>tf
I'm still trying to process how this is even physically possible.10 -
Dartlang has now tied with lua for my favorite programming Language.
And the flutter sdk is my favorite tool / library
Good job Google .
Also.. My first app is in the google play store. I will make a post abt it soon.12 -
Seriously, wtf is with the new "make-everything-in-javascript" thing?
JavaScript is a terrible language. The type safety, or rather lack of it, gives me nightmares about debugging. The standards are always different. It's way too flexible. Ugh.
I'm tired of all the awesome services that I'd love to use being centralized over Node and JS. I don't want to use your stupid fucking language. Who does?
Also what happened to that dart thing that was supposed to replace JS?11 -
Made my FIRST APP using Flutter.
How's it?
Fetches 'Random Rants' from devRant.
Should I put the code on Github?
PS: will break if the image is too long in height
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If you are Flutter developer, checkout FlutterScreens on GitHub and show some love.
https://github.com/samarthagarwal/...
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Upon a certain angry Germans recommendation I started getting into flutter.
Best fucking decission ever. Shit is simple and makes sense.
I ain't tagging him cuz he don't like being tagged.
But thanks man!! You know who you are!
The code makes sense, the widget tree hierarchy makes sense, knowing the native counterpart helps whenever the flutter portion ain't doing it(has not happened yet) and dart is really a good language.
The tooling is fucking genius, funny enough the emulators open quicker with vs code than android studio or xcode(fuck those two btw, 2 fucking years of hate towards them ain't going away) and building designs programatically make waaay more sense.
Flutter gave me back my hope for mobile development. This is google knowing that they fucked up Android development and fixing it and schooling IOS development for taking a good set of languages(obj c and swift) nd fucking them up with their shit way of development.
I am in love.9 -
So I just read about Tim Sneath leaving MS to join Google, and now I hate my life :)
We have those tools for cross platform apps
1. Xamarin
2. React Native
3. Flutter (dart)
4. Ionic
5. ??? (am I still missing something?)
FOR FUCK SAKE not only I had to learn three programming languages to be able to do mobile apps now I need to learn JS shit for mobile development cuz obviously this is the "trend" of the fucked up future and I'm sure people will keep on coming up with shitty frameworks and some random fucked up customer will request to use that shitty framework ...
Sorry had to get it out of my system :)9 -
I just finally released my first dart library!
( HTTPS://pub.dartlang.org/package/... )
It's a wrapper for @linuxxx's lynkz.me service.
My love for dart continues to grow.3 -
I installed ArchLinux on my smartphone thanks to termux, and now i kinda feel like a god, but don't know what to do.
I'm bored.
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My name is Jimkelly Nzioka, a Flutter Developer from Kenya. A few months ago, a person named Daniel Kibet, the CEO of a company 'Aberison Investments Limited' got in touch with me, telling me that he needed a Flutter Developer. He took me through a couple of tests, as he out them, to gauge my proficiency in Dart and Flutter, since that's what we would use to develop updates fora lthis app on the Google Play Store named 'BOBO' (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...) I passed the test, and he proceeded on to tell me that the app was on Play Store already and he invited me to the office in Miraj Towers, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya to see it. He presented me with a contract to sign which would go on for a period of 3 years, during which I was to develop the aforementioned app, provide updates maintain the database, etcetera. I live somewhat far from the office and as such, I would work remotely from home, making commits to a Github repository we created for the project. I did a bunch of work for them, including working in the UI (which really needed a lot of work), writing loads of Cloud Functions, as well as Cloud Tasks for functionality they needed. They would also consult with me concerning how to achive some functionality in code and I would offer my honest advice and suggestions. Things seemed to be going on well, until the start of this month. As per the contract, I was to bill the company a sum of Ksh 50, 000 every month that's roughly equivalent to $500. That was enough for me, seeing as I am still a student in University, and I would be working on it as a part time job. However, as of today, September 8, 2020, he has refused to pay me for my work and is ignoring, sometimes canceling any phone calls I make to him. In addition, I noticed he has restricted my access to the Firebase project
I know you probably don't know this person, but you are developers and engineers, and know what it would feel like if you realized someone has been using you, when all along you have been doing your level best to just do your work
Employers have to stop taking advantage of their employees for their own selfish gains24 -
When defining a range, let's say from 1 to 3, I expect:
[1, 2, 3]
Yet most range functions I come across, e.g. lodash, will do:
_.range(1, 3)
=> [1, 2]
And their definition will say: "Creates an array of numbers ... progressing from start up to, but not including, end."
Yet why the fuck not including end? What don't I understand about the concept of a frigging range that you won't include the end?
The only thing I can come up with that's this is related to the array's-indexes-start with-0-thing and someone did not want to substract `-1` when preparing a for loop over an 10 items array with range(0,10), even though they do not want a range of 0 to 10, they want a range from 0 to 9. (And they should not use a for loop here to begin with but a foreach construct anyway.)
So the length of your array does not match the final index of your array.
Bohhoo.
Yet now we can have ranges with very weird steps, and now you always have to consider your proper maximum, leading to code like:
var start = 10;
var max = 50;
var step = 10;
_.range(start, max + step, step)
=> [10, 20, 30, 40, 50]
and during code review this would scream "bug!" in my face.
And it's not only lodash doing that, but also python and dart.
Except php. Php's range is inclusive. Good job php.4 -
One day browsing the internet, I find a website that is hiring web developers. I was curious, so I decided to see the requirements.
Job : To manage this website
Skills Required
6+ years Experience of
HTML
CSS
JavaScript
Node.js
Vue.js
TypeScript
Java
PHP
Python
Ruby
Ruby on Rails
ASP.NET
Perl
C
C++
Advanced C++
C#
Assembly
RUST
R
Django
Bash
SQL
Built at least 17 stand alone desktop apps without any dependencies with pure C++
Built at least 7 websites alone.
3+ years Hacking experience
built 5 stand-alone mobile with Java, Dart and Flutter
7800+ reputations on stack overflow.
Answered at least 560 questions on stack overflow
Have at least 300 repositories on GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket.
Written 1000+ lines of code on each single repository.
Salary: $600 per month.
If he learnt all languages one by one at age 0, he will be 138 now!18 -
Once Upon a Time.........
Three database SQL walked into a NoSQL bar.
A little while later they walked out Because they could not find a table.1 -
I want to build an Android app...
buuuut
- I hate NPM (NodeJS is neat, but NPM is annoying af)
- I hate Java
- I hate Dart
- I hate Windows
Fuck my life...25 -
I am excited about dartlang.
It's so cool to see a language that can be used to make apps for Android + iOS and websites and webapps and servers and automation / scripting.
(There are probably other languages that do this, but I like dart)2 -
I swear I hate seeing these wannabe programmers sharing their shit content on social media. I mean, I respect people who are getting into programming and giving it their best. But one just doesn't write "Fuck Types" when talking about a Dart. I mean, atleast open the introduction page of that language before you jump and start giving people "pro tips". Stop skimming over technologies/languages and dive a bit deep to understand how it works.9
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This is a student helper app I coded and designed for our university that is written in Dart and flutter. For now it supports fetching the course schedule for a given student and the cafeteria menu. What do you guys think of the UI? Any recommendations for improvement or tips for working with flutter in general?
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www.dartlang.org
Dart helps you craft beautiful, high-quality experiences across all screens
... Not my screen though
I forgive them 😊
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So.....Google Flutter is finally out of beta and ready to go.
Why? Well you see, Google realized that Android development was a complete fucking mess (50+ lines of code to get a permission? Yeah eatadick) and that Fb had it right with React Native which held a better model for building interfaces and manipulating said data. Dart as a language is very nice and for those comming from C#, Java and Js should not pose that much of a hassle.
I love Java, I really do, but Google took care of making Android Java development as tedious as fucking possible with the quirky Android API. Hopefully Flutter will make it better and hopefully Fushia will become a better OS.
Remember, language extensions or frameworks happen for 2 different reasons:
1 the community loves the environment and language enough that they make more cool stuff for it (Js, Ruby, Python etc, this phenomena happens in said ecosystems)
2 the environment is so severly flawed that people add libs to fix it (or extensions to the language if we ate talking about a language)
E.g Android Butterknife, okhttp etc.
I welcome our Dart overlords.10 -
My girlfriend told me to take the spider out instead of killing it.
We went and had some drinks.Cool guy. Wants to be a web developer.3 -
Has anyone heard of the new OS that Google develops. Fuchsia. It is now not based on Linux but Magenta (Developed by Google) and will probably not use Java but Dart7
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So we were talking with colleagues about the way french people pronounce the English "th" sound. When someone mentioned the example of "Darth Vader" (pronounced like "Dart" by some people), we imagined his choking gesture to actually be a dart throw.
This was my inspiration for this wallpaper.
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Yesterday, we searched in our IT comunity Angular jobs. One of first jobs had these tags: angular, react, typescript and dart. How can programmer decide, when even the company can't decide what to use...
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can we all take a moment to appreciate the developers of flutter. they're smart, and they took the time to make flutter the *right* way.
they used an easy to learn language that's ideal for mobile development, which means hot reload/restart is possible (because dart supports aot and jit compilation)
the way it's designed is beautiful. everything is a widget, and it's easy to customize them via named parameters.
the community is great. it's not large, but it's supportive, with two active subreddits. yesterday i asked a question on r/flutterdev, and a member of the flutter team at google answered the question with a comprehensive answer.
flutter is very consistent across platforms. if it works on android or ios, you can bet it'll work on the other just as well, with the exception of platform-specific code.
it is VERY performant. unless you write a major bottleneck, 60fps is easy to achieve.
animations are EASY. define a tween and animation controller and then write a callback function. not to mention it's straightforward, and complex/combined animations are easy, too.
you can get almost direct access to the canvas, should you need it, with custompainter.
oh my god, this is revolutionary in the programming world. development is quicker than it is with native android alone, and for people who have no access to a mac, like me, i can develop for ios and compile via code magic. if you haven't checked it out and you develop for mobile, check it out.
oh yeah, did i mention it's not just mobile. hummingbird - flutter compiled to web - is already in experimental public betas, and will likely be released by the end of the year. there's also experimental desktop support, which is amazing, and much better than electron. not to mention flutter is the future, as it will be the primary way to make apps on fuchsia os.13 -
I'm having a strong urge to kill that asshole that asked me, on a SECOND interview for a SENIOR position if I knew what ORM was!!!
Are you making me fucking waste my time you fucking cunt???
Did you fucking read my CV?
Obviously not because you would have seen several ORM technologies on it you fucking piece of shit.
You made me waste my time, and now I have no choice but to slice your fucking throat!
I'll be waiting for you, in the dark you mother fucker.16 -
When you release a mobile framework, here is what should be in the tutorial:
How to do api calls
How to switch screens
How to handle hardware sensors
What are hidden away in an obscure last page on the flutter site? All of the above. The api section just straight up fucking points to a dart page. Good fucking job.11 -
i'm supposed to use some lorem ipsum when making flutter work to explore most of it's features but of course my meme brain turns on and makes this monstrosity instead
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I really do like Flutter/Dart but I just cannot be the only who thinks that the way to create several nested components/widgets is even close to somewhat readable, what the fu** Google.
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Forgive me for I have sinned.
I feel like I need a bleach shower after having had to write these methods in my Dart codebase
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I don't know why but whenever I find Flutter and Dart together. i read that Fart. I know it's just me.3
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So I have a date tomorrow. First meeting in person. I’ve got a little time to kill before hand, and need to learn Dart anyway....so I thought it would be fun to code her up something interactive. Kinda like that game Mr and Mrs. Only in the terminal, and for nerds.
Features, ladies and gentleman?9 -
So, our team got a new dart board. Not the magnetic one, the wooden one with sharp darts.
Now, we all are wondering where should we place it, so that it is safe for everyone.3 -
Don't get me wrong, Dart is a darling. But also at the same time is like that one time you thought you found a good band and end up reading their wiki and one of the members turns out to be a wife beater.
Feels so good at the beginning and you feel you can do anything until you see the shortcomings and feel weird about committing time to it. -
I’ve got to build an app in 3 weeks that handles basic image editing and async requests. It’s gotta support both iOS and Android.
It’s also gotta scan barcodes.
What should I use?
Cordova?
Cordova+ionic?
Titanium?
Xamarin?
Dart/flutter?
Try and cram it through in native java/Kotlin and swift?
Something I’m missing?7 -
Go home Dart, you're drunk
A value of type 'String' can't be returned from function 'myFunction' because it has a return type of 'String'. dart(return_of_invalid_type)
string.dart(102, 16): String is defined in C:\src\flutter\bin\cache\pkg\sky_engine\lib\core\string.dart
string.dart(102, 16): String is defined in C:\src\flutter\bin\cache\pkg\sky_engine\lib\core\string.dart2 -
A few months ago I got recommended a Flutter and Dart course on Udemy, thought yeah fuck it lets get it, fast forward to 5 minutes ago...
"Ok I'm bored, feel like coding and doing something different, lets do some of this course..."
*Opens udemy, clicks on course*
"Hm, must have changed the thumbnail..."
*Clicks first lecture and is greeted with "Hello friends!"*
Yep, got the wrong fucking course didn't I ;-;
Here hoping Udemy may offer a refund seeing as I hadn't started the course till now... Fuck1 -
Weird thought.
Everyone seems to hate electron. It's one of the strongest cross platform developing environments though, so everyone uses it.
Google recently made 2 new platforms, flutter and dart, designed for cross platform applications... but then why is project fuschia's entire UI built in, you guessed it, dart and flutter?
I think Google is trying to make an electron replacement, endorse and grow it in fuschia, and have it grow as the new (resource friendlier) electron.
Of course, only my ramblings. Take with a grain of salt.5 -
I look forward to Friday's Nerf dart battles in the office. A great way to blow off the steam that built up during the week.3
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Well I can say one thing for sure. The tooling found for Flutter in the form of IntelliJ and Android Studio is far superior than fucking around on a text editor das for sure.
Not really into the continuous nesting of widgets. But then again I was not a big fan of having jsx either.
Both options still better than fucking around with the Java Android api....and I fucking love Java.
Still feels like Google realized that such approach was better, else I don't think they would have justified the creation of the Flutter lib. And yes. I know that it is not a complete replacement for Android Java, but the interfacing between Dart and the Java api feels more natural at least to me and the widgets look native af so we go on with them big plus digits.2 -
Flutter's live demo throws an error with default spinning logo lol
Dart's website is all about UI and shit but their live demo is console output. Also the pi calculation is 100% incorrect7 -
Disclaimer - Day in the life of a whitehat student.
Whitehat Whitehat Whitehat
What is this????
When I attended my first white hat jr online free trial class, I got to know that the teachers does not know the difference between java and javascript. Infact they were saying blockly as javascript. I was knowing the difference between the same. There were 3 types of courses -
***Note : - This information is taken from the whitehat official website***
1.) Introduction to Coding :-
Sequence, Fundamentals Coding Blocks, Loops
(Teach us to drag and drop blocks of code.org(blockly))
2.) App Developer Certificate:-
Events / UI,Conditionals, Complex Loop, Logic Structures, Turtle Coding
(Advanced drag and drop(blockly))
3.) Advance Coding with Space Tech -
Extended UI/UX, Rich GUI app, Space Tech simulation in Space Lab / Game Lab, Professional Game Design.
(GUI - with tkinter(python), Game Design - Blockly(code.org))
These things are rubbish ......making GUI's is simplest with tkinter and the students who make games (with code.org) submit their codes to the whitehat community (because the teacher says "they will compile it to an android app, then you can publish it to playstore" --- this is for 1% students who are able to design their own games).
The thing whitehat do with code given by 1% best students:-
Export to HTML from code.org
Download HTML to APK Convertor
Setup SDK
Successfully converted to APK!
Publish it to Whitehat Jr console account
Credits of the students
Income of the exporters
Rest all students will only think to be the CEO of google one day.
My Opinion - StackOverflow, Unity for Game Development, Android Studio, Dart, Flutter and Kivy (using google colab for compiling the python code to an apk) for app development and Flask, HTML, CSS for web development.7 -
I'm making a devRant API wrapper for Dart. The point? None! Just to get better at the language and mostly make my own life easier. Open source or not, seems like I'll be the only one to use it. Or am I? Is anyone else (I know ewpratten is) using Dartlang?7
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made my first dart server today, i already fucking love it!
i already used it for flutter, and previous node.js was my backend of choice.
i'd recommend strongly. no matter the platform for the frontend, web or mobile (or desktop app), you can use dart, and you can use it for the backend too!
it's like java but not shit.3 -
the first time i tried flutter/dart i was coming from java and published an app composed of one seven thousand line dart file5
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I'm trying to learn Dart and Flutter, so I started with the Getting Started materials.
1) Downloaded JetBeans
2) JetBeans refused to use my existing Android SDK so it downloads its own
3) JetBeans still doesn't work so I switched to Android Studio
4) Android Studio can't find an SDK and it crashes while downloading the SDK
5) Now Unity can't find an Android SDK
-,- come on.1 -
Learning Dart the first time is driving me insane!!! I'm so not used with it's format.
PS: Send help.6 -
A friend of me said that intel Pentium and i3 is the same, that all laptops with intel`s logo have the same processor, you just have to view the info. of yours...2
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I take a look on Dart, which used by Flutter, a "React Native inspired" framework.
Very similar to Typescript and Java, so whatever you write, probably gonna work.
But I feel lack confidence on any language Google promoted. Eg kotlin and Go
🤦♂️
Google hired too many PhDs who have nothing to do, so they spend 1 day per week draw some doodles...
Hope this is not another weekend warrior project.🙄9 -
!rant
I wish I could redesign the webstack. I mean, its fine in its current state, but could be soooo much better.
Having native support for web components and shadowDOM will be a good start.
Crossbrowser support for flexbox and removal of vendor prefixes.
CSS defaults for properties like margin and padding to be set to 0. (Basically reset.css or normalize.css)
I like the direction ECMAscript is heading in but I think some features that Dart has should also be ported ECMAscript. The simplified DOM in dart which looks like jQuery is such a breeze to use.
We can all the above currently, but its integration would streamline development.4 -
Any flutter dev, please help.
I asked a question on stackoverflow but seems like nobody's ready to help.
Please help.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions...5 -
Yesterday I spent almost 3 hours trying to sort an array of objects in java. I'm a person who has written a lot of python and dart code and java is just so daunting. Every simple thing is so complicated.
You can sort a list of objects wrt any parameter using a one liner in python.
Finally after copy pasting a lot of code from stack overflow the thing got sorted. And the worst part I don't even know how the thing works.4 -
Just discovered the Dart language. It seams very intereting, especially with the Flutter SDK. Someone have any experience with it? Do you recomend learning it?3
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I've been trying Flutter the past 2days. I liked how amazing Flutter framework is but I also hated how UGLY the Dart language is. First of all, I've been doing Java(Android) and JSX(React). So, after coming from these languages, Dart seems awful. Here are the things that I hated the most:
1. JSON parsing: The worst part of Flutter/Dart. No GSON/Jackson equivalent. not even possible to make one as described in the doc
2. Redux for flutter. I tried and I hated it. So, Tried some other state management libs
3. the way static functions are written in a class
4. Widgets hiarachy
5. Ambiguity - "this context is not the context we need, we need that one to make it work. so, pass that even when you don't have it" (if you have used flutter, you will know what I mean)5 -
The last one was this Overwatch League Android/iOS client I made in Flutter. Basically wrote two apps in less than a month and learned (and enjoyed) Dart in the process.
I also learned that I'd probably get into trouble if I publish an app which uses a private API without permission. Hee hee.
Really cool and exhausting experience, though. 5/7 😊 -
I wonder if Google released Flutter because they can't let Facebook have all the fun with react native. Or maybe they did it because they had fushia os in mind for a loooong time. Or maybe because they realized that the android api is overly complicated and the Dart way is easier. Or maybe they did it for the lolz.
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Between android studio and Unity, which one si better to make a adventure text game? Why? (i'm learning, dont kill me please)8
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!rant
Have you ever used Dart?
Is it interesting for a desktop only (expecially Python and C++) enthusiast?
I've heard it's a very well built language, but a bit boring to use.3 -
Are there any tools, points of reference, barebones templates, bits of advice, etc. that anyone can share or direct me to that could potentially a programmer with ADD stay organised and keep projects/code structured?
Just a bit of background:
I am 29 years old and have battled with severe Attention Deficit Disorder since early childhood. No hyperactivity, just a mind that is constantly running at light speed. I have a tendency to lose focus on the main goal in my projects and I fall victim to feature creep more than I'd like to admit—to the extent that on countless occasions, I've ended up just starting projects over from scratch because they became too convoluted and hectic.
I've spent the past 2~3 months working on a sort of companion app for players of the game Warframe using Dart/Flutter. The main purpose of the app is to provide players with an accessible and customisable agenda to help with keeping in-game goals organised (oh, the irony). I have made a decent amount of progress, but I consistently find myself working on various bits and pieces of code (usually) without finishing each of them before moving on to something else. What I end up with is a tangled yarn ball of code and I get lost and overwhelmed in the chaos.
Any feedback or advice is much appreciated.9 -
I gave a very small overview of the flutter sdk a whiiiile ago and I have been thinking about going back to it. Currently considering between 2 courses on udemy that are at a discount price. I love the idea of dart as a language and prefer declarative ui building over xml shittyness. I was an Android/ios development for 2 years and hated every minute of it, but really love the idea of building mobile apps.
What are your thoughts and considerations on this? Should I jump right in or just leave it asside? What are your success stories with flutter and what did you use to learn the framework besides the docs? How easy are things like state management and persistent storage with flutter compared to android and ios?
I will eventually make my own decission by building sample projects, but hearing from the community would be great.5 -
I am using flutter in my office right now to develop a cross platform app. Flutter is great and everything but there is just one issue. WHY ARE FLUTTER UPDATES SO DEVASTATING?? Latest flutter 1.22 takes in dart 2.10 ehich replaces @reuired with anew keyword required. What the hell!!! And also every var is now by default null safe. Whyyyy??? I was just trying to adjust to the update made in 1.12. oh and btw it went from 1.12 to 1.22 stable in just 6 months.5
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Flutter. And Dart, while we're at it. What is the most hated thing you've got against them, and what's the most loving feature of the framework?2
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What do you guys do to pull yourself out of a rut when you hit a wall in a project?
I'm developing a large scale enterprise level application in flutter/dart by myself and reached a really weird point where there are so many things to be done I can't pick which one. I've spent the last few days on authentication and logic so I think I need to tackle something else for a bit... any insight would rule, I've never had other developers to talk to about this stuff before!4 -
Has anyone ever experimented with Dart or Flutter? I'm thinking about developing an app soon. What should I know before diving in?6
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may do an extreme rpi project…
is a self driving go kart or self flying drone cooler?
and for the drone, i think it would be easier, what do you guys think?
please answer - also for the drone, is there a way i could get it to connect from anywhere (within reason)? i know if it were a cell phone, i could get a signal from anywhere, but i don't want to pay for a monthly plan.4 -
I feel really stressed about everything I want to learn. Everytime I hear someone talk about some new framework or I see people here discuss languages or stuff I don't know anything about, I want to learn it. Right now the list of things I feel I need to learn is so fucking big that I've no idea where to start. Also, I need to focus on my upcoming exams, so I've absolutely no time to learn or do anything. Backend, front-end, iOS, Android, desktop, OS development, everything. So much to learn, so little time.3
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Question: what do you think of Flutter? Ever tried it? It sounds good so far, although it has limmited support (as far as I can tell)3
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I thought I'd give flutter a test, a simple list app lags on the following:
1. Scrolling the "Lazy Loaded" list
2. Tapping on a list item to change an icon color
I followed their "lesson" in creating that app
Now tell me, why should I invest time on this?6 -
Have you guys worked in flutter(dart)?
How long will it survive?
In my company, i suggest them to do project in flutter. They are refusing. Why companies prefer native development (as the crossplatform saves time for andriod n ios seperate build)?
What you think of it?9 -
Why Dart was designed with idiocy:
1) naming conventions are idiotic
Most other languages are smart enough to not throw errors when the variable name matches its type. And lots of others, for any lexemme - only 1 naming kind is allowed.
Fine. Oh wait, there's that thing called existing databases and GraphQL & other APIs, should they all adapt to this? No, because 2) is the bonus
2) String keys in objects. Unless it's a class with boilerplate, you write them as strings and access them as strings.
So here's the solution when you want to integrate Dart with existing services: write a lot of JSONSerializable decorators to fit with dart's pissy naming requirements.3 -
just finished a prototype for my android app, when i all of the sudden find out about flutter and dart, and i have the fucking urge to rework EVERYTHING just because i fucking hate android studio and java for it verbosity
android studio is good in basically helping you limp along with java, but when i saw how smooth dart code works, i just started getting frustrated at every little complication the android API makes at doing android things in a java way
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LOL XCode....I think they meant "X"tra useless, resembling such as a bag of dicks without handles!!!!
Also, being fucking buried because there's aren't any devs anywhere to be found near me makes me extra cranky!
Ive been hammering away at this Flutter, Java, Swift, Python, and Google maps for just about 36 hours on 3.5 hrs sleep. I just can't stop, I fuckin love this shit!!!
Considering the fact that I'm self taught and just started writing code for real about 7 months ago, I'd say I'm handling this alright for now. Every bit of tech is getting shot out of a cannon at this one- maps, real time tracking, state level auth/Id verification, custom components like ID scans/native desktop applications on custom linux machines, body cams, SIP trunking... all in 3 apps which are 100% multi-platform and scaled up to high end enterprise levels and being groomed for national release. I'm writing the code and doing the tech for ALL of it- even down to custom painted barcode scanners, a wallet system built from scratch, GPS integration, location/geofence based document querying... holy fuck guys I'm gonna fuckin die haha!!!
I went from barely getting websites made in late summer to this very moment, where I am pumping shit out in Flutter, Dart, Python, CPP, Js, Swift, Java, Kotlin, Obj-C, SQL/noSQL, and who knows what else.
I don't even know what the hell I just said haha I hope everyone has a great day! -
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After past few weeks of procrastination, finally began finishing my mobile app for my finals.
Not gonna lie, I've spent 2 weeks researching Flutter, and it seems it has at least 90% of stuff I need (I like dart, and I do not like java).
Now after I wrote a tiny bit of code, I noticed there's still stuff I do not understand, thus more research is needed. All of that for ~20 lines of code, then more research, then 2 lines of code, research, start everything over because I fucked up, again, and agian, again.......
Now that I've gotten that out, time to cook some appealing UI.4 -
I've been developing in JS for a bit of time now and it was amazing to start with but, for all the problems we all know I d like to move to something else... I m really interested in Dart because of the JS compatibility and the Mobile Framework. Has anyone worked with it?2
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Want to get into mobile dev, as i am pc and android phone user, so getting in android dev would be logical choice. Was thinking of iOS market as well so is/was learning Flutter(Dart). Is it a good choice? Or just stick to android? Let me know your suggestions? Thx for everything ^^3
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I've taken an interest in Android development and have discovered the existence of Flutter a while back. The thing is, I'm midway into learning Kotlin. Should I stick with it for now and then consider Flutter after I've learned the ropes of Android development or should I consider it now? I know I'll have to learn Dart which is different from Kotlin.4
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Was interested to learn React native, started with the demo project too. But then *bam* Flutter shows up with butter smooth UI and it's all new features.
Well, now I'm in a dilemma as to where I need to direct my 'learning bandwidth'. I'm a huge fan of JavaScript, it's my fav language. Also Dart feels lot like JavaScript.
What do you guys think? Any suggestions and experience are welcome..2 -
Tried forcing myself through Flutter like I did with Django. Eventually had to (again) grow my skills in the primary development language.
Note to self: do this in the proper order next time. Picking up Dart properly now. -
So here's why I'm irritated ,
Day 1:I got a call from a company about an internship from a mutual contact they wanted to build an Zomato kind of application for retailers the person asked me to do it in react native which i didnt know and so I said i have experience with Android development i can do it in android he wanted a multi platform based development well i said i could learn but i haven't work on such a big project I'm still a student I'm a freshers so i didn't have the confidence to say yes so he gave me two day to make up my mind.
Day 2: I called him back i said I'm ready to develop the application I'll learn like crazy but i wont miss out on this opportunity so he was like we are not interested in react anymore we are thinking about going android and ios native I'm like great that i can work with but he shifts to I'm still thinking about flutter as well I'm like I know a lil flutter i had attended few conferences in it he asked can you brush up and I'll call you up tomorrow .
Day 3 : so he called me today and was ya so did you brush I'm like yes I'm ready to start working i need to work on my dart but as an expected internship I'll work on the development as I learn I'm totally in he said how long would it take I said I'm not confident 2,3 weeks but i could definitely provide you with what you want I'll work my ass off .He says fine then learn flutter first get back to me then we will think about it . I'm like ahhhhhh
So please what did i do right what did i do wrong can anyone please tell I'm a noob i need to learn a lot of things would appreciate your feedback
What should have i done here?7 -
Got mixed feelings about dart/flutter 😕
On one hand, I find it very easy to work with and very fast for prototyping. Everything is smooth once you compile it.
On the other hand, I keep running into weird as shit bugs and missing functionality. The bugs are primarily related to iOS, so that might not entirely be their fault. Last one required me to delete the entire project and rebuild it, the clean command didn't work shit.
It's quite annoying that so many features are missing, but I guess that's life, when you try to work with a multi platform language...1 -
Dart is interesting. Had fun learning that language eventhough it's not as famous as other languages like js or python.
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Trying to remote in your home PC to setup git but because you have 2fa you need to signup about 6 time than creating a repo to push the home project to and setting up an exact copy of the tools on your laptop to continue on that said home project.
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Thoughts on Flutter!
I'd like to see something like flutter for front end web development. I like the approach used by Google for Hybrid app development.
Dart language fits perfect for the case. Static typing, OOPS, Generics, state management, UI design everything right out of the box.
I don't have to create layout separately like HTML in web or XML in android.
Everything is managed by Dart alone.
It's like what developer wishes for UI rich app development.
I'm not saying Flutter or/and Dart is the perfect solution. Every language has pros and cons. (Maybe not applicable to JavaScript! Haha! ) But still The overall solution to UI development is way cleaner than web.3 -
Diving balls deep into Reactive Native + Electron after close to a year hammering away like clockwork with Python(everything), Flutter/Dart, EJS/JS/jQuery/Node makes me feel like my manhood has left hahahaha
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prediction question: how long do you think until JavaScript goes away, and what language do you think will replace it as the de facto web language? I know Dart is aiming to fill that niche, as well as even Kotlin/JS and/or Kotlin/WebAssembly7
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I swear to god dio and dart's http client is so fucking stupid. I can barely do something in 90 lines to get a web resource when I can do it in 10 with python's requests library. The support for storing cookies is nonexistent, and even with CookieJar/Dio I still need some stupid long hack like this:
https://stackoverflow.com/a/...
The worst thing is that this has happened twice now, the first time I resolved after a long fucking time trying to solve it, and now I have the same exact problem again, but I can't just simply copy my solution from last time to use in the latest problem.
Even curl is more useful than whatever the hell the http client for dart is2 -
Flutter may be great. I want to learn it, so i decided to make this small app in Flutter.
About 2 hours later, and I STILL HAVENT POSITIONED THESE FUCKING BUTTONS AS I WANT IT.
I calm down a bit, and decide to not give a shit about the position of those buttons.. Moving on to launch an URL when one of them is clicked.
Found sweet few lines of code i could copy/paste. Ans tadaa, didnt fucking work. Fuck. Googles a bit, turns out i forgot that hot reload is not for major changes, my bad.
I decide i want to add a few extra features, so fuck Flutter for now, im going back to Android Studio.
Reading Flutter is great, writing it with no knowledge of Dart is.. what the fuck did i even think.7 -
Coworker: let's use Result monads in the project so that we're forced to deal with exceptions
Me: okay, sounds great!
Me: *implements Result monads *everywhere**
Coworer: how about we don't use results anymore in half the project? It makes the code look ugly. Let's just use exceptions.
Me: ...
Really? Why in your mind is it okay to only force us to handle a few exceptions and others we can just say fuck it and let them wander around?
Oh you want to use try-catch for these other exceptions.
So now we're back at square one, which is trying to remember/figure out which exceptions any method can throw (since the compiler doesn't do shit, not even warnings), but now we also have inconsistent and much less readable code. Isn't it great?
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I also can't do much about it, because I'm just a fucking intern and I do not want to cause trouble, so I just try to say that I disagree with it in the most polite of ways and that's that.4 -
If anyone is good with dart (or) other single threaded programming languages, i have this small doubt about the inner workings of the event loop and such and i would like an explanation if possible.
If you're too lazy to goto the link:
1. I have a future returned from a http request.
2. a future.then is declared that prints the http result.
3. A separate while(true) loop is declared that runs forever that just prints natural numbers.
4. the while loop also has an await future.delay that waits for 1ms before continuing with the next iteration
My question :
1. There's only one thread so how does the http download code run WHILE my main loop is still executing.
2. my future.then event is not processed unless i await a future.delay separately for 1ms. returning control to the event loop ? i don't get it how does adding an event help it process a prior event? It's FIFO ?
gist :https://gist.github.com/TheAnimatri...
discussion:
https://groups.google.com/a/...5 -
Software Idea: correlation between MicroShit updates vs number of rants on that date
guess that would give some interesting results -
I DESPISE languages that enforce a style on you because "muh community code consistency". Like ok, I understand it, but if it gets to a point where I cannot configure *MY* IDE to format *MY* code the way I want I'm gonna get pissed at you. Why does it matter to you if my project uses 2 or 4 spaces? At least give me the option to disable your fucking formatter and use my IDE's default one.
Fuck you Dart.16 -
someone brought something to school today, a "ac receiver" or "av receiver" or something? he pointed it at the board and turn it off, and i heard he opened someone's email with it? does anyone know what this could be?6
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What do you guys think of Flutter and AngularDart, for developing for Android/IOS and web, sharing a common code base?5
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So the next Flutter event is on December 4th which means Flutter 1.0 is around the corner. Flutter is amazing with a very neat idea it has ReactJS like state management and everything is a Widget even the app itself. So i was thinking what else could we expect? React Native has Flutter, but what about React JS? I think Google might introduce a Competitor for ReactJS something like Flutter Web or FlutterJS which can work on parallel/similar to Flutter but for the web of course, and also maybe give some news on the Fuchsia. What do you think? :)5
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Who the fuck was it that decided that Dart should use capitalized String, for string types, but lowercase for the rest? int, double, bool.. WHY NOT string? This is so fucking annoying!!!15
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There's always a market for that Language you know/choose to learn. Don't jump to everything just because you want to know everything or its trending. Be it Python, Java, PHP, Javascript, C#, Dart etc. Just pick one and be extremely good at it and when your service is needed, you will surely enjoy it.7
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making a self driving go kart controlled with a rpi, should i use python, java, dart, or something else? python seems like the obvious choice.
i plan on making it have google maps integrated, with netflix and music player, with a touchscreen.
i was thinking c++, but a gui with c++ didn't seem ideal.
what would you use?
also is an rpi too slow to make the go kart be *relatively* safe?3 -
Great practice/skill sharpening idea for my fellow mad dogs that like to get down in multiple languages/syntaxes:
Pick something simple that won't cause too much stress, but will make you sweat a little bit and put up a good fight, ha!!!
For example, I picked the classic "Caesars Cipher" and picked 5 languages to create it in! I picked Dart, Java, Python, CPP, and C. Each version does the same thing:
1. Asks for a message
2. Runs the logic
3. Prints the message cipher.
4. To decrypt, you just run the same program again and enter the cipher text at the message input prompt. The message gets deciphered using the same logic an shows up as the original text.
The kicker:
Only dox/books allowed for reference. Otherwise it wouldn't push you to get better!!!
Python, C, and CPP were EASY, even with me never having used C before. I am great at using Dart, and that one really challenged me for some reason, but I finally got it. The previous 3 langs took less than 40 lines of code each (with Python being only 18 I believe). Dart actually took somewhere around 50, and Java took about 371784784. (Much love to Java though for real!)
Kinda boring as shit, but I gotta tell you it felt fuckin GREAT to look at all 5 of those programs after completing them, no matter how barbaric... especially when you complete 1 or 2 in a language you've never used or maybe felt really challenged by. Simple exercises that hold a lot of important, relatable logic no matter the subject is our lifeblood!!!9 -
!rant
I'm undertaking this huge personal project. For this I would require a serverside language/framework. Till now, I have only used php7 for backend, and although it gets the job done, its not fun to code in and is a pain in the ass. Since I learnt php after Angular, I have written php in a very Angular-MVC style (where I have custom components and templates; I did this because I wanted to see if I can use as little of javascript as possible).
I've heard django is really good, but I've never used it despite knowing python.
Dart is supposed to be really good, but I have no idea how to use it. Plus, can you run this on the server?
I would like to use dart as its syntax and semantics seem to be very nice. Is crystal a viable option?5 -
What things do you keep in mind when learning a new language, when your main goal is to use it in building projects in a framework?
For eg i am beginning to learn flutter and i am finding a need to learn basic dart things like creating variables, loops, classes, functions, constructors, etc...
What are the most important "language concepts" if you may say it that?1 -
About the one ranting about people who don't know how to use Google:
that kind of people is my family, and, my sister ASK TO GOOGLE, really, she write all the homework of her school to google.
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Has anyone had any experience with Dart and Flutter?
Just did a little research and I'm curious, just want to know if it might be worth looking at?4 -
I posted a few days prior about how I was starting CPP because I had been crushing all my other higher end stuff (Js, Python, Flutter/Dart, etc.) and that CPP was gonna destroy me. Haha I'm doing alright, but I need to find something to use CPP for in order to determine when I will need this besides games or say building a browser engine. Could use a little direction as to what I could be working towards. I have NOT encountered a problem that I need it for yet, but I wanted to familiarize myself with it because it's an essential language regarding full stack. I am a solo dev!2
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Hi devs so I was thinking to learn frontend development and got stuck at the a point should I learn react and react native or should I learn flutter
To learn react I need to first learn html and css as I have very beginner knowledge in it.All suggestions are welcomed as long as you have studied either one of the language8 -
Just built a solid desktop app for MacOS with Flutter that's worthy of shipping. I gotta say I'm pretty stoked about it, even if it isn't nearly as dope as LOIC. Haha chargin muh lazers!
I'll get some screenshots up soon!!
I also wrote a comple CLI interface for Firebase management using Python. Advanced auth abilities, CRUD capability, full json import/export, verification/password resets, you name it. Well, except full Firestore/mobile OTP features but it's still a win. Actually dicked around and made a cool little Firebase chat program in the terminal with the Python interpreter.
Finished up my first apps in React, React-Native and Ember, my 2nd with Electron, and also got my first Firebase hosted site up and running. Solid day!!! Cheers to that. And cheers to all of you amazing bastards!3 -
How different should two different technologies be to consider putting both on your resume?
Like is it okay to put both CSS and Sass (https://sass-lang.com/dart-sass) or are they too similar to reasonably do so, what about javascript and 'Google App Script'
How do you determine if it's worth being on your resume orif you should only have the more known one on the resume unless the job requirements advertise the other?
And at what point do you 'know' enough to put it on your resume if i should? At what point can I say I 'know' sass or google script enough to advertise myself with it?2 -
Hey errrbody!!!
I'm banging out a couple "showcase" mobile apps for practice, portfolio, and/or as potential templating tools.
I have no issue writing the code, I just wanted to see if I could get a couple pointers as far as user databases go. I'd like to have some "user profile" features generated from a FB...vlike profile images, name, address, contact, yadda yadda yadda. I usually use Firebase, but I am still having a little trouble with the more advanced stuff when it comes to integrating users profile data. I can get values from Google and whatnot, but I'd like to see what my other options are on the smaller scale.
I am currently writing code in Flutter/Dart, ReactJS( not native!), Vanilla Js, Python, and CPP.
I know there's options for client side storage like Shared Prefs, Sqflite, etc, as well as server/DB side stuff like Firebase, Aws, Mongo, Node, SQL, etc- you get the idea.
I just want something with decent documentation that's reliable, not a massive undertaking (at least not for all this little stuff, anyways) and could potentially be a go-to platform configuration in the future. It'd be cool to wire in my Flutter and js shit of possible, bit honestly I'm cool with having separate setups for the time being. Any extra input regarding the use of python and/or cpp as well (either separately or with mobile) would be rad as fuck!!!
I do realize it's a pretty vast area to cover, but I figured it couldn't hurt to see what everyone likes to use for full-stack setups.
Thanks!!!!9 -
Learning Flutter since I've seen it suggested somewhere on here, and therefore I'm having to learn Dart. It just bugs me how it doesn't complain when I leave an extra comma at the end of the constructor parameters3
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I want to learn a new front and back end webdev language. So far, I've found Dart and TypeScript (though this one is not completely new to me) on the front end side, and Go, Elixir and Rust on the back end side. As I don't have too much free time, I can choose one of both sides for now, but I can't decide which ones to go with, since I can read so many pro-contra opinions.
I only need to choose for the skill, I don't have any specific target, I just want to learn new stuff.
Which ones do you suggest? -
Javascript - VS code
Python - VS code (linters sometimes show weird errors)
Dart/Flutter - VS code
Debugging qa instance via eb ssh - Vim with vim cheat sheet opened in browser tab -
Could you guys give me advice on how to write good code?
(I'm mostly doing TypeScript and C++)
And what other languages should I learn?15 -
The things that make me wanna hate React Native is that the project folder becomes so BIG, makes it so hard to remove the whole project folder, including node_modules.
I really hate Dart but liking Flutter only because the project folder - along with the necessary code gets created pretty faster than React Native. On the other hand, React Native takes ages to load all the node_modules.
So, I'm asking the experts here, who have worked in both frameworks, should I leave RN and go for Flutter?
Cause, I don't wanna waste a handful of time every time just to create a RN project.
If I should stick with RN, please tell me a way so that I don't have to waste the time just to create a RN project.
Thanks4 -
It always blows my mind how a silly idea / hunch tries settling down in your head very close to your regular bedtime and before you realise you can hear the birds chirping and sunshine hitting your window pane.
It’s unhealthy and should not be encouraged whatsoever.
But I guess this is the sort of involvement and craziness that separates us from rest of the professional world.2 -
When all you want is to start a productive coding day. But end up with finding couple of bugs and writing bug reports.
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So the flutter keynote was yesterday, amazing stuff were demoed and amazing stuff were announced, one of them was my speculations which I did in this rant:
https://devrant.com/rants/1883654/...
And that's the Flutter for Web! also known as Hummingbird, I think this is the new era of cross-platform developing! :D1 -
I'm I nervous?
After a couple weeks I'm going to do a #Flutter workshop level 1
I know that I got all the information and the topics about it, but the thing is when you know that the students I'll tech them are mostly bigger than me!!
Or my friends (same age)
So any advice about doing the whole workshop thing and about dealing with the students who are bigger then me?1 -
These days i learn new technology after using that in an client project. Sounds stupid , still works.
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Good morning
I can't decide between react-native, flutter and ionic.
If I would go for flutter I have to learn dart, but that would be no problem.
Any recommendations?
Expierence in these technologies?
Thank you7 -
I want to jump into android app dev. My first plan is to start build one using flutter and dart language but my workstation is slow. Android studio is hogging my memory and it really slow me down plus bad experience. I plan to uninstall android studio and using other tools. Can anybody suggest what kind of tools that suitable for my current condition right now?9
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i want to create a service that periodically logs in to a 3rd party service to check if anything has changed in their account, then send a message via firebase to notify the user who's account has been changed.
can you recommend any program/hosting/server that would be ideal for this?
i prefer dart (because i built the frontend in flutter, but i'd use most any language).
i'd prefer not to pay for a dedicated server because of price, so if i could just create processes that run every hour or so, that would be ideal.3
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