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FUCK MY BOSS WHEN HE SAYS HE DIDNT SEE ANY UI CHANGES AFTER NOT SLEEPING FOR 24HRS TO GET THE ENTIRE BACKEND REWRITE DONE. I WENT OVER THE ACTUAL CHANGES WITH HIM 100 FUCKING TIMES! I GET THIS MESSAGE AFTER FINALLY GRABBING SOME FOOD "What did you do, you said you were going to work on the site??" FUCKFUCKITYFUCKFUCK!!! FUCK YOUR MONEY AND YOUR JOB!!!! AND WHILE IM AT IT FUCK WEBDEV!!! 🖕FUCK YOU GUYS🖕 IM GOING HOME
/rant Thank God for devRant32 -
Hired a new backend Dev. He writes a script and sends it for testing...
Tester: "It's not working..."
Backend Dev: Goes to Mongo and deletes the tester's whole profile...
I cant control my laughter every time I remember this incident...He claimed it was a mistake, I don't think that it was a mistake...the tester had it coming...
"It's not working" that's all he says every time...I mean at least give me something to start with...!4 -
Frontend Dev: That's not possible in Frontend, we should do it in Backend.
Backend Dev: That's not possible in Backend, we should do it in Frontend.
-- CIVIL WAR --27 -
Had to explain the difference between front and backend.
Restaurant:
Waiter == frontend
Cook == backend14 -
Frontend & backend dev conversation
Backend Dev: what will you be working on?
Frontend dev: i will be creating a nice animated loader. You?
Backend Dev: i will be working on optimizing the backend so that no one can see your loader.
🤣🤣🤣🤣5 -
Don't let your team working be like this:
Monday:
Frontend: Hey, is the API ready?
Backend: Sure, will give you later
Tuesday:
Frontend: @backend, is the API ready?
Backend: yeah, yeah, will give you later, yesturday is busy.
Wednesday:
Frontend: @backend, is it ready?
Backend: Been working on some prd bugs, will give you later
Thursday:
Frontend: @backend...
Backend: ...
Friday:
Frontend: @backend...
Backend: Oh, I just find out that you should ask @backend_b for this API...
(I was actually trying to get my avatar, but this story is real)15 -
Frontend is as hard as backend
An appreciation post for every single frontend developer out here who can bear customer, project managers and designers nagging
You guys deserve a gold medal23 -
As a male in his 20's, I'm mainly interested in woman's backend.
Understand that how you want..lol.18 -
*me searching for jobs*
*types in 'junior backend developer'*
First result:
Junior Frontend Developer.
*big facepalm*
Yeah I understand that it might just be some kinda algorithm that filters on words or whatever but the irony was real!13 -
A story of the backend dev. from our client:
"I used !important once now I'm not allowed to do frontend anymore :("17 -
My Senior php backend team leader told me I could choose a new laptop, he said:
"You could always choose a mac, and be a real developer"
mean while I was already downloading ubuntu, and replied
"No thanks, I don't do html/css"9 -
Frontend team : We pushed our code. Please give instructions regarding integration with Backend.
Me : Alright. I'll provide you the API docs and you can continue with integration.
F : But that's your job. No?
Me (didn't want to argue) : I'll look into it. Let me check out the frontend till then.
* Goes on to see the frontend *
I am kidding you not, that moth*rf*ck*r pushed an entire template along with dummy text.
Me : Hey! This doesn't seem right. It's just a template you got off the internet.
F : Yeah! That's what I have to do. To put on the dynamic content from database is your work. Don't put your responsibilities on me!!
Are you f*cking kidding me?! Do your work right or I am reporting you to the team lead!
Meanwhile, team lead : *sips coffee. Disappears for months*
Bastards!7 -
Spent most of the day debugging issues with a new release. Logging tool was saying we were getting HTTP 400’s and 500’s from the backend. Couldn’t figure it out.
Eventually found the backend sometimes sends down successful responses but with statusCode 500 for no reason what so ever. Got so annoyed ... but said the 400’s must be us so can’t blame them for everything.
Turns out backend also sometimes does the opposite. Sends down errors with HTTP 200’s. A junior app Dev was apparently so annoyed that backend wouldn’t fix it, that he wrote code to parse the response, if it contained an error, re-wrote the statusCode to 400 and then passed the response up to the next layer. He never documented it before he left.
Saving the best part for last. Backend says their code is fine, it must be one of the other layers (load balancers, proxies etc) managed by one of the other teams in the company ... we didn’t contact any of these teams, no no no, that would require effort. No we’ve just blamed them privately and that’s that.
#successfulRelease4 -
"Hey can you add (feature) on this backend"
> Looks at backend
> api.py
> 4K+ Lines
uhhh... is it me or our entire production is held by this single Python backend....?
This thing is running our hypervisor platform... Our IaaS platform... and it's one file....
WHAT THE FUCK8 -
Best experience: being in charge of the backend of the company website
Worst experience: being in charge of the backend of the company website when something was going wrong -
The world will remain fucked up until the moment when backend devs will get as much credit as front end. Backend devs unite! All servers down so they can see who has real power!10
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I was talking to a few young developers at a Uni today and asked them what areas they worked in/were interested in.
Everyone: (tells their work/ interest)
Mr. Genius : Backend developer.
Me: (Being a Backend developer myself felt interested) Which language do you code in?
Mr. Genius : Firebase
Never have I ever wanted to murder someone until this moment.2 -
Im kind of a backend guy now
client says I have the "view" of website, and backend code. just plug the view to the backend...
Sends .jpg files an tells me "oh, its just photoshop yet. can you quickly pull the frontend code from it?" 😑6 -
I'll be moving to a new job soon. Myself and a colleague are working on a new feature before I leave. He's building an IoT device, i'm doing the backend work. Were testing a "ping" style system, where his IoT device replies to a message from the backend.
The JSON payload he's sending is {traitor: true}3 -
Mobile app crashed a lot after latest release. Everyone called for a meeting to discuss the issue and find resolutions.
Engineering lead for backend team: well part of our problem is we haven’t had time to test everything fully. Maybe product could give us a list of all the features that can’t go down and we’ll prioritize those for testing?
Product: ... ... ... all of them?
Me: laughing hysterically while on mute2 -
*attempting to flirt at the bar*
Hey! I'm a full stack developer, so I can do your frontend and your backend10 -
I've been wondering for a while, how the backend my team has to use could have so many issues. I was convinced they had no alerting system in place and have been commenting on it for a while now, and complaining about it.
Was on a Zoom call with one of the backend devs today, he shared his screen and had his email open. I saw a folder he had setup called alerts, and sub folders under that. One of them was named the name of the service/app we are using ... it had over 360,000 un-reads ... and emails are automatically deleted after 4 months in my company.
So they have alerts setup, they just don't care ... problem solved. Enjoy your weekend folks!2 -
>be me
>I hate front-end dev, but I can do it. I hate switching between markup, styling, and logic.
>I like back-end and low level programming
>stay unemployed for a year and a half, because all offers are for React and Angular
>find backend job, yay
>they actually make me work on front-end shit
>mfw pic related
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Explaining my mom about my job as backend developer... She couldn't understand what is there behind the website. She was like "u designed the website. It's done. What u do full day?"
Finally I gave an example of restaurant... I am the cook(backend developer). Front-end is waiter. Finally she understood....6 -
Welcome to backend development, when only felow programmers know what you are doing, and fucking frontend guys get all the credit.9
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Sometimes I envy frontend developers because the very nature of their role involves rapid change. Then I remember that backend devs can practically get away with murder and the customer will be none the wiser.2
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Have a Skype interview in 15min for a backend position. Only the first screening, but I'm anxious anyway.
Wish me luck!8 -
Me: well guys, after the 4th attempt and a week of waiting, I’ve gotten a response from the remote backend team about the errors affecting this release. Which are the same issues affecting the last release 2 months ago. The findings are: “there is in fact some issue with the API”.
I’d like to thank everyone who put in so much effort to get us to this momentous step forward. We can expect a fix any year now.
*equally sarcastic colleague on another team listening in*:
oh wow, this months long thing has just been “some issue” all this time? Well that’s fantastic. You should mark the ticket as “done” and reply “thank you” for all their hard work.
..... I laughed so hard at how ridiculous all this is and the joke, that I nearly did, hoping someone from product/business would have to review it1 -
me: "ugh frontend is so stupid, i wish i only did backend"
also me: "i should be working on backend, but i just added some dopeass icons to my website"2 -
Backend: Sorry the fix we had isn't going to work. Turns out app is sending an "undelivered" status after you call the API where you claimed we had an issue. This is in fact the cause, please address it.
Me: We do not have an "undelivered" status anywhere in our codebase. We do not do this.
Backend: *CC product* turns out this issue is only affecting 0.1% of users, its very minimal. Lets push ahead with the release.
Product: Ok, lets go live.
Me: ... ... ... we all just gonna ignore that "undelivered" bullshit? ... ok ... very stable release, here we go.3 -
Front End vs Backend.
Today is my annual 'clean your keyboard' day. Anything used as much as a keyboard is bound to get dirty. Keep your gear clean kids.
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Why do we backend people have to be born handicapped for creating anything that doesn't look like absolute shit.
I'm trying to pick a primary color for my landing page for about three days now and I'm starting to lose my shit.
Can we all just start using fucking CLI apps and be done with the whole design thing.13 -
Joined a new company / team to work on an iOS app that has 2 different backend environments "Dev" and "Prod". Also being referred to in iOS speak as "Debug" and "Release".
Been trying to get accounts on these backends (no sign up in app, its controlled via another process). Eventually get access to "Dev" for one of the regions, so I load up "Debug" and its not working.
This is odd, so I open the Android app and load "Dev" and it works? I then Notice Android has "Dev", "QA", "Staging" and "Prod" for every region where as iOS only has 2 of these.
So I go back to iOS and find the file for the settings and it has iOS Debug assigned a variable for the backend Dev ... which is actually pointing to QA. Because they use QA to Debug and not Dev.
... confused? join the club3 -
Fuck (some of) you backend developers who think regurgitating JSON makes for a good API.
"It's all in JSON. iOS can read JSON, right?"
A well-trained simian can read JSON, still doesn't mean it can do something with it. Your shitty API could be spitting out fucking ancient Egyptian for all I care, just make it be the same ancient Egyptian everywhere!
Don't create one endpoint that spits out the URL for the next endpoint (completely different domain, completely different path structure). Are you fucking kidding me?
As if that wasn't enough, endpoints receive data structured in one way, but return results in another!! "It's all JSON", but it's still dong.
How do I abstract that, you piece of shit? Now I have to write ever so slightly different code in multiple places instead of writing it only once.
How the fuck do I even model that in a database?
Have a crash course on implementing APIs on the client side and only come back when you're done.
Morons.6 -
Got an interview in 3 hours for a senior backend php engineer position. If it doesn't work out im gonna get stuck in a job as a wordpress dev which i hate. pray for me.14
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Backend colleague : the API is online. It's tested and working, you can start the dev.
Me trying to manually call the API with all the fields pre validated : "error : invalid fields"
EVERY. FUCKING. TIME !
To all the backend developers : we are NOT your personal testers, and we are NOT supposed to clean your mess because you're too lazy to FUCKING TEST THE HAPPY PATH!!!
Thank you for your consideration.5 -
When you test your backend code thoroughly before pushing to production, but a fatal exception with the much larger production userbase causes one of your vital threads to die with a NullPointerException.
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Sunday afternoon extra work..
New guy: what do you do?
Me: backend, mainly
New guy: c#?
Me: yeah, but not just..
New guy: so you're good at it?
Me: I'm a fucking proctologist
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Why is there such a big hatred towards PHP ? I have recently started backend dev in Laravel and it seems to be a pretty good framework. Most E-commerce frameworks are based on PHP as well. If PHP is so bad then why is it so widely used ?
I am not trying to defend PHP , but I genuinely want to know what's wrong with it ? I might switch to other backend tech then.12 -
Difference between frontend and backend as explained by a tech "founder" I recently spoke to -
Any website's landing page/home page is frontend, but if you go Home -> Profile -> Settings page, that's backend because, it's in the "back" so you know, its... the backend.
So yeah....37 -
That moment when you struggle and write an amazing backend logic and your manager only looks at the frontend/UI and tells you it is okay. The struggle doubles when you try and explain him the backend logic and he just ignores you...what a day!!(No offense to amazing frontend developers out there)4
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Hate it when people call themselves a Web Backend developer and all they know is POST and GET method.😡4
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Just joined a new team at the organisation as senior dev.
Team lead keeps singing about how we need unit testing and good standards.
I implement domain pattern on the backend supported by unit tests.
It passes QA and then get an earful about the code not being 'restful'. What does that even mean?
Well, it matters not since team lead changes the whole feature in the release branch and all unit tests obviously fails. Builds start to fail.
The solution? Comment out all unit tests. In the sprint retro, we hear the same old adage 'we need 80% code coverage'
Do as i say, not as I do. FML.6 -
I've just finished my last day at work... I'm switching from being a 100% PM (almost 3 years) to being a 100% backend machine!
God, how I hated that job...8 -
I was not having much respect for out front-end developer, as the UI is not so good., yea. I know it UI depends on the designer.
Now the new design changed and our UI looks awesome.,
and I must say that my respect increased a lot when my pm asked him to fix the layout in UC Browser.
Fucking shit., in UC it is showing two lanes as one lane. I don't know why., he was working hard to fix that.
Massive Respect to him. I really happy by being backend dev.8 -
I was at a meetup yesterday where the topic was PHP7. I'm frontend though went there because of my backend friend. I have one question. How the fuck do you guys understand PHP? To me it looks like total black magic fuckery. Respect to all my backend fellas!9
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This piece of shit backend developer who our company fired sometimes back, cause he was spreading fake things about the company.
He was tasked to develop the admin panel for the websites we were working on..
Now, turns out, he had put multiple backdoors in his piece of shitty code.. He happened to designed the front end of the admin panel as well, which contained more than 3k js files..wtf!! And he did all that even after getting paid enough for that shitty code.
The projects where that shit was used are now under attack.. And my already hectic life has gotten even more hectic..
Fuck you dumb fuck.. You piece of shit developer...
I'm never gonna let him take another job.. I'll mail out official complaints and character reports, along with his history to each and every fucking company that he starts working in.. I'm gonna be his worst nightmare..I swear.2 -
Am I the only backend developer around here who doesn't enjoy building UIs and tries to get it done ASAP just to go back to backend code?
my App's UI looks ugly as shit because of this.9 -
From this day I'm also a backend developer! I'm going Full-Stack and the company where I work is letting my learn on the job!1
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Boss only likes stuff he can see and that looks pretty. Doesn't understand code, servers, containers, DBs, etc. Praise is attributed by something looking nice in the frontend, whether or not it does crazy stuff behind the scenes.
Spent a week working on a project whilst boss was away. Got to about Thursday and thought, oh poop, I've built all this API stuff, but not much frontend. So I panic built frontend screens with no functionality just so I had something to show.
Wish I had another dev to share backend progress with (and code review)...8 -
Friend: Oh god! Are you sure you wanna eat that bunch of garlic?!
Me: Sure. I'm working backend.
Friend: Never mind.5 -
A frontend dev asked for my assistance in writing a tricky helper function, told him i'd be back in 5, as I was just heading out the door for a cup of coffee.
Came back a little later, maybe 10 minutes instead of 5, and he says:
"Nevermind, I solved it by installing plugin XYZ v4"
Checked out the codebase for said plugin afterwards, and discovers it's around ~30MB of code, and adds a shit ton of "premium version" ads to the backend.
YOU FUCKING TWATFACE! YOUR LAZY FUCKTRUMPET ASS COULDN'T WAIT 5 MORE MINUTES?!!
I NOW HAVE THE MISFORTUNE OF REWRITING YOUR ABYSMAL DISASTER, OR DEAL WITH THIS PIECE OF SHITWARE..4 -
PM measure workload by UI upgrades and careless abt backend, meaning you cant justify u were developing backend while there is no output.3
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Today I explained to my wife why my night stand is a mess, and hers is clean and ordered by using the backend/frontend metaphor.
I am the backend, handling bills, bank accounts, taxes, warranties and all the paperwork.
She is my frontend, handling my social interactions.
Now she hates me, but she admitted I'm right.
She still want me to clean my night stand though.4 -
Progress. The backend is deployed and works on my server. Tomorrow, deploying my fronted code to work with the backend.
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I ended becoming a backend engineer because I love designing backend systems. High Level Design is ❤️
Also, I just don't have the patience required to conquer CSS 🤯😤5 -
Started my new job as a devops engineer, its been al month and i have never seen the seen of aws console or travis ci, dont even have credentials for any company cloud services.
I guess i should change my job title to backend dev1 -
As a dev, I never want to personally talk to Clients anymore.
I had this Client for whom I developed a website for a tool he was making. I did the front-end work, did the backend, added the shop and everything he asked for. I showed him everything so he could see for himself what was done and how it all works. He went ahead and tested the finished product to see if there were any bugs.
He came back to me and wanted a call on skype and I joined the call. He shared his screen to show me that when he resizes the browser, the content of it gets bigger and smaller according to scale. I worked so hard to get it responsive and whatnot, and he tells me that it is doing what it is supposed to do. I die inside every time I think about it2 -
I just thought "oh! some of the response.subscribers_list.title are missing" after seeing this on YouTube, anyone think like this or backend development has really got to me ?
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I don't know which is worse:
1. My project manager telling me that I will have to make a whole project on my own within a month (frontend, backend, etc etc) for our major client and if I make it, we will get a bigger project for a longer period or
2. The colleague next to me being loud (speaking to himself, chewing things) at random intervals.2 -
After doing my first web dev project, I can definitely see why most of you guys prefer backend over frontend.6
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Got hired for my UI knowledge, then I get stuck doing backend work since I started, while the mountain of UI work just continues to grow and they refuse to let me work on it instead of hiring more backend help. Cool cool cool cool.12
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That joy feeling when you are finally rewriting the backend and frontend with GraphQL instead using the fuckin old undocumented REST API who was written by fuckin amateur ex-coworker.
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I hate how the IOS developer of our team gets all the recognition for an app we made just because the manager has a bloody iPhone, even though I did the entire backend and Android app.1
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Interestingly enough, the worst JavaScript code I’ve ever had to deal with was written by back-enders coming from a Java background. The app was unusable and it took me a few weeks to put it back on track.
So is JS the culprit, or is it the elite backend community that fails to even try to make good use of it? 🤡2 -
Hey guys, I've hit a major snag in my dev life.
My backend/frontend Java project has hit a wall as the material I was using from Udemy on advanced Java programming was boiling down to copy and paste programming without the learning. That doesn't really work for someone with 2 years programming experience but only a good 2 months of Java knowledge. I need to learn not just follow along what's written on a screen. Thankfully I learned to give in about 2 weeks in so I didn't waste a ton of time on it.
Would books be a better option? I self taught C++ mainly from books and preferred that over videos, but when I did C# videos were mostly better than books.
And...I guess I'll open the floodgates to recommendations for other stacks. I like Java and I'd like to keep using it but I know you don't want to get married to a way of doing things. My end goal is to make an E-commerce website that I can show off in interviews about a year from now.
Please be kind, I'm feeling a bit like crap right now. :(
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When the CIO referred to our entire backend system as a "heritage" codebase in a press interview.
Cue every backend developer scrambling to change projects, every manager scrambling to reassure the backend developers, and HR scrambling to hire new backend developers. -
Being a backend developer, the most difficult job is to write <button class="btn btn-primary">Sign up</button> 😞3
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Not have privileges in prod database, so i have to create a simple 'hidden API func' in the backend of apps that i develop, so it can receive raw query and give response for the results, the REST API is (/getReport). Still Works :/2
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Yesterday I was reminded by myself why I prefer working on backend instead on frontend. Css is definitely one of the shittiest things I've ever seen especially if you try to overwrite some Css settings if the used cms theme.3
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Doing Android for 2 years now, and still freakin have to debug for 2 hours, on why my app isn't communicating with the backend.
Only to realise, INTERNET permission not requested. 🤦
Anyone else suffering from the same problem?1 -
We are switching to an infinite scroll mode for our app. I told the backend dev in my project (we're just 2 people) I need an API to get more than one post at once.
He told me to use a loop to call the old URL 15 times.
...Not sure if stupid or just too lazy4 -
Our agile scrum team has finally shattered into two parts.
On the one hand we have front-end guys.
On the other hand we have backend- /dev-ops guys.
The FE guys don't care about the BE guys business.
They don't join pairworking and only noticing things that went bad, when a Backend guy has caused it.
Goodbye fullstack dev-ops team...
I really dislike that arrogant basterds.
Frontend Hobo-Bitches...! -
I run update without where on mysql console on production database Today.
CLASSIC
Just because I needed to fix database after bug fix on the backend of the application.
I thought I wrote good sql statement after executing it on my local machine and then everything got bad.
Luckily it was only one column with some cached statistics data and I checked that it was not important data before I actually started fixing stuff but still ...
Almost got hard attack afterwards.
Made a script to fix this column and it took me only 15 minutes but still...
Bug was caused in part I got no unit tests and application grow after 3 years of development from simple one for one customer and volumes of documents around 50k to over 40 customers and volumes over 2mil per month, don’t know how many pages each, just in one year after we completed all needed features.
I have daily backups and logs of every api operation but still.
I think this got to far for one backend developer.
I got scared that I will loose money cause I am contractor and the only backend developer working on it.
I am so tired of this right now I think I need a break from work.
Responsibility is killing me so hard right now.
It will take a week to get back to normal.2 -
Javascript is cool.
But i have studied databases for a few weeks and i have been thrown into the backend.
Java - spring boot - myBatis - postgreSQL.
Its a big change to my react world.
And its fucking amazing. -
I recently built a Mock JSON based REST server, that can help you out with API testing and prototyping without having to write any code for the backend, feel free to try it out, and star the repository if you liked it :)
Link: https://github.com/ishank-dev/...3 -
What do you think about replacing the backend with Google firebase, it would just save so much Work?7
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That's funny how as a student in apprenticeship, hating front-end and wanting to do backend for the rest of my life, I currently assigned to redo the entire front of a website by adding bootstrap and stuff. I'm doing this for a week and it bores me so much...2
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I am writing an api to get data from another api, mix it with some data from a database and then send it back.
I am using nodejs (javascript) to write it but I would like to learn something new. Can you recommend me any languages that I could use for my backend? I was thinking maybe go but I am open for ideas.10 -
If a frontend dev asks for screens, mocks, designs or whatever, all the company pushes for it and gives it to them, but if a backend dev asks for a set of input/output samples for a feature, the same people claim "its so hard to think about the cases"... Wtf are they thinking?3
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What I learnt after 3 hrs of debugging for a stupid issue today ?
Lesson 1 - Getting some unknown error even though your code ks right and no error in logs ? Check you SQL version and its rules.
Lesson 2 - phpmyadmin is fuckin shit ass software
Lesson 3- I need to learn JavaScript for backend ASAP3 -
Having to explain to non technical project managers that: Just because you don't see anything that's changed on the front end doesn't mean that I haven't just spent 6 weeks so trying to future proof and anticipate every little thing that might change on the backend!
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It's been 1 month in my first dev job.
I'm really happy but there is one problem...
Despite my role as a full stack dev in a fullstack team, I deal with only frontend stuff so far.
I asked to get some backend tasks from my boss, and he said "in due time".
Is it because I'm a junior? Is it normal?5 -
Frontend web development is a fucking jungle. I feel like bloody Bear Grylls whenever I come out of my backend cave - shit's overwhelming, yo.2
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What's with Angular? Why are there so many Job Openings for Angular in India? It's like every recruiter is asking Angular. And the pay is much more than the backend Dev positions. Just because its frontend. I feel voilated for being a backend dev.3
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Write backend stuff -> it works -> improve and add features -> realize initial design problems -> recode from scratch and call it v2 or something.
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When you accidentally write a color hexadecimal code as a 'string' in CSS, that's how you know you write too much backend code.2
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In 2019 I want to get better at PHP & React & stop being afraid to try & fail! I do a lot of front end work, backend still baffles me a lot. Time to get uncomfortable! 👩🏼💻🤓3
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A backend dev just told A frontend dev via slack that documentation is not necessary for backend and provided a backend PR for backend feature the frontend dev needed, he said the implementation is easy, am I dreaming or what the he'll is going on here 😩😩
Guess what ? the entire backend has no documentation 🤣🤣🤣🤣, just search the PRs you frontend freaks 😜, I feel sorry for my friend 🤣🤣🤣6 -
When the client reports u a bug in the app, then u noticed that the error comes from the info provided by the backend ..
**** HAPPY KUS IS NOT MY PROBLEM****
Then u realized that you are the backend developer too..1 -
Nice! no fucking communication from the backend devs to the frontend devs
Got 400+ type issues because backend Capitalized property names!
Well there goes half an hour.4 -
So a front-end that:
- Contains duplicate data in the same page
- Does not adjust itself well with content that's not lorem ipsum
- Only looks aligned properly on one screen size
- Contains sections that I have no idea what to feed from my backend
k I can be a full-stack dev too. ty front-end guy. -
Hey guys!
1st rant here after staring for hours at my company's backend....
Is there ANY advantage in scala?? Ever??2 -
Intern next to me is given high praise for creating a simple VBasic gui for excel. I get stuck with Middle and Backend work. I wish I could say my internship is easy money (he can atleast) but I like the challenge.2
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How do y'all deal with reading other people's code?
Context: was given a frontend project (I'm a frontend dev) that was started and is managed by a backend dev who just started doing frontend.
I want to start from scratch as I don't understand a thing he codes, conventions are all off, and the structure is just weird.5 -
I came across this german platform that provides rest api level access to database without the need of a backend. I’m a frontend developer and the possibilities like a wet dream. Saying bye-bye to Firestore.
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I gave backend dev my frontend code and he had no idea about SCSS.
So he copied the compiled AND minified CSS, prettified/formatted it and put his own changes by searching the class names.
And he had made lots of design changes arbitrarily so when new changes were to be made I had to cope with it.
As a hack I kept his css as it is and compiled another file with new changes. And now there's two css files all huge, like 800kb multiply by two huge.
It covers about 33+ custom pages with all the bells and whistles.
#let me do the frontend
#I wont bother you either4 -
Firebase or Self Developed Backend for mobile apps?. Which one to use if you have a fixed number of users.2
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Co-worker: Please finish and push your frontend asap, I need that to start working on the backend.
Me: Why aren't you using Postman?
Cw: I don't like it.6 -
Any Ruby on Rails developers here? I‘m an Angular Frontend-Dev and want/need to learn RoR, especially for backend development. Any good books/tutorials/resources?8
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Recently, our backend team has gotten smaller. The company has stopped the collaboration with the company of the backend lead developer.
We are currently lacking backend developers while we have way too many frontend developers right now (compared to backend).
How can I, as a front-end developer, switch to back-end?4 -
Hey devRant people !
How are you ?
I’ve a question, do you know a website like FrontendMaster, CloudAcademy or LinuxAcademy but ... for backend stuff ?
EdX, Udemy and all are very good but I would like to find a platform specialized in this topic.3 -
I just realised that I program the frameworks for backend developers, does that make me a backend-backend dev?
If so, I wonder how far can I take this in my career...1 -
I am working on the backend of the event website and my PM expects me to also design logo for different sub-events.
Apprantly it's part of my job.
Awesome1 -
So I have been using REST APIs since last 4 years and used this term in lot of technical discussions with backend teams.
Learnt that it's full form is 'REpresentational State Transfer' just a few minutes ago 🙈5 -
I really hate the term fullstack developer. Just call it what it really is. Javascript react developer who dabbles in node occasionally.
If you don't have some knowledge of tuning a database, tuning your runtime, handling issues with networks and latency in your code, dealing with issues with message queues, writing abstraction layers for the database, etc. you aren't a backend developer, sorry to say.
Being able to reason about a mean stack running on digital ocean doesn't not make you proficient in the backend.3 -
What do you guys think about backend developers who design&implement POST requests with URL parameters? Is this even legal? 🙄14
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"You can never understand everything, but you can push yourself to understand the system"
If I hear this stupid quote one more time I will scream.
Node.js is a piece of shit and thanks to Ryan Dahl, we now have to deal with ugly JS not only on the frontend, but also the backend.2 -
I want to learn a new backend-language, but can't decide which one.
I already know Go and have basic knowledge of Python and Java.
Which one should I learn?
Doesn't matter what kind of language.12 -
Where do I begin creating a Backend API for my Frontend?
I already know how to make the Frontend of my personal projects. But I want to learn to make the Backend as well. Any advice is appreciated.7 -
Rookie here in need of help.
Is it possible to become a backend dev within 4 months?
I have been learning frontend on and off for a couple of years because I hate my job as a salesman. But I always imagined myself more as backend developer.20 -
When backend is slow to add fields of data, and product manager is after you, the frontend dev to add the new feature.
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I once had a heated discussion with another developer over whether AngularJS is backend or frontend. For some reason he believed it's a backend framework.1
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A toast to the perks of backend, to never being bothered again with every single ui change.... Just you and your code 😏😀2
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After 30 years, some developers are still struggling to build websites efficiently. Our hypothesis is that this is due to severe and acute ignorance and due to taking an academic backend-focused software engineering mindset to the frontend without even trying to understand what web design and frontend web development has to offer and why.5
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Should I learn a database language before backend, or vice versa? I’m thinking that I learning Rails and some form of SQL.2
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What BackEnd framework you used and Why?
I will go first, I use Phoenix (Elixir) because it is Fast and high tolerance on errors. I used ASP.NET because I am forced to. (Company choice)22 -
After 3 months of working as android dev, startup decides to freeze android work for next 4-5 months in order to focus on iOS. Meanwhile I'm being asked to start doing backend work. Need advices on what to do next. Below is the link to my reddit post and would appreciate any input on the situation.
https://reddit.com/r/... -
I'm envious of Backend developers who can just 'see' the problem domain and start creating an architecture. I can't see shit - I just stare blankly at the project and I think: hm, what models do I write?
I know I'm a structured person, but I lack the knowledge and practice. One day I'll be able to do this, but for now I have to keep doing things ad hoc.
I really don't belong in the Backend but unfortunately that's how my career is turning out for now. All I know is I have to get better at this.2 -
Was stuck on a bug, took 2 days still couldnt fix it. Dumped all blame on backend guys. Came out it actually was an API issue 😂
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That LOL feeling when incompetent backend wants you to fix their bug on the frontend!
How about NO!?
And why tf I know more about how backend works on this system than devs that are actually working on it???6 -
I work as android dev for the past year and a half, this week in my startup I started doing some backend (it consists of microservices, codebase is written in python. were using rabbitmq for queuing and for http our framework is falcon).
At first I was very adamant to learn new stuff but now that Im getting deeeper into backend I started to really enjoy it!
Its still lots of new information but at the same time it feels soo refreshing to have two experienced mentors who can guide you, since Ive spent last year and half working on android completely by myself and relying only on myself. Also im very lucky that codebase is clean. -
So far in 2020 the only work I’ve done is front end and even though I’ve improved (a little) It makes me sick. But today I actually get started working on backend in ASP.NET Core for the first time. I am excited.2
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Hey devrant,
Is ASP.NET Core a good web framework to start with. I have no experience with backend web development but I know some C#2 -
How to protect API endpoints from unauthorized usage by bots?
If the API end points are meant to be used by any incoming to CSR frontend user without prior registration?
So far, my the only idea is going from pure CSR React to something with partial SSR at least in Node.js, Django or any other backend framework. I would be able restricting some API endpoints usage to specific allowed server ip.
Next.js allows dynamically both things as well.
As alternative I have a guess to invent some scheme with temporally issued tokens... But all my scheme ideas I can break really easily so far.
Any options? If SSR is my only choice, what would you recommend as best option in already chosen Django and not decided fully front-end framework?
I have the most crazy idea to put some CSR frontend framework literally into my django backend and making initial SSR from it. The only thing its missing... my lack of skills how to use React, but perhaps I have enough time to get a hang of it.
SSRed frontend can be protected with captcha means at least.16 -
Do you guys think that the frontend or a javascript developer is an easy job? is less than a backend developer?
let's discuss5 -
Lol. Because there aren’t backend resources available, frontenders are now implementing Backend functionalitiet with JS. -_-‘3
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As a total Javascript/node.js noob my biggest take from it this week is that it's a lighter version of the backend while doing a lot of the front end heavy lifting in a programmatic style. It's not a total replacement to ASP.NET MVC or JDBC MVC, it's nowhere near as powerful. But, I could see this being a very good replacement for JSP's and simplifying the front end. I need that because the front end terrifies me more than the backend. The devil you know is sometimes easier.
Still, my first week in node.js and Javascript has been... pleasent. It's simpler and less powerful than static or dynamic typed languages but that doesn't make it bad. 🙂
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Question.
So I mainly work as a front end developer but I want to look into more backend stuff, would it be worth sucking it up and learn PHP and Laravel or Node.js and use something like Adonis?5 -
I'm a native Android developer and I want to start learning a web backend stack so what's popular in Canada and Germany? (I'll be moving to one of these countries soon).3
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Not sure what I wanna do ---
Backend Development or Data Analyst
Even in backend development confused between nodejs, PHP, Python though I don't have proper knowledge of all of them.
For Data Analyst I am looking the way from where I should start.
I am in 3rd year of my college
Can anyone please help me with this?5 -
Football/futbol/soccer analogy:
Frontend engineers are like strikers - you see their work, good and bad, and you don’t notice how many contribute to their success. Backend engineers are like goalies - you only really notice when they do a _bad_ job and don’t see how many things contribute to their failure.5 -
Drupal is such a fucking wortless and infuriating hinder in software development.
I've been a software developer for the past 6 years, I have worked with many different frameworks and technologies in both backend and frontend, such as .net, react, php, you get the idea.
In my current project, we have been forced to use Drupal as backend. Initially I had no complaints, but after trying to use it for the past month, I'm beyond mad at the ridiculous and overly complicated way of doing the most basic tasks in existence.
Not only is installing Drupal such a dependency hell, that we had to modify our entire ecosystem just to accommodate for Drupal's versioning, but it's just a crutch that we have to carry around and make ridiculous exceptions for.
I've seen other projects made in Drupal by professional companies, and not a single one of them actually makes use of the CMS that is meant to be the entire point of this piece of shit.
Instead, we have to make a regular backend database, force the PHP code into Drupal's modules and then try for the impossible of making use of the pointless structure system integrated in Drupal.
It's almost pointless since we still had to make a react application to actually do the pages, since Drupal is limited as hell when it comes to personalization.
Just to end up with this error message: "The website encountered an unexpected error. Please try again later." no explanation, no nothing, just going after an endless debugging using [drush] commands.
Anyway, I fucking hate Drupal6 -
How I fucking hate those programmers who say they only can do backend stuff because they don't like front-end work... You godamn pussies, as a programmer you have to be able to adapt to a given projects requirements. If you are not able to do that you are not a real developer in my eyes. So grow a pair and the next time you have the chance to do some frontend work take it, maybe there is someone who in return would like to dable in some backend work for once.12
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Question..
Is it safe to stay with PHP or do you think js (in backend) is the future?
Php (laravel,..)
Js ( Angular, react,..)14 -
Didn't know how to do backend development. The organisation I was working for then needed a simple backend. Learnt some PHP and developed the entire backend in less than 8 hours
PS In hindsight, the code was grotesque, but at least it worked!1 -
So, I told the interviewer that my frontend skills are bad. He said that I should not worry as the tests where backend centered, good. Later, I got the job, now the interviewer, which happens to be the head of tech in the company I work for, has assigned me two tasks involving 99% of work on the frontend.
FFS, I've been searching on Internet and reading Kendo UI documentation for 4 hours to figure how to trigger the KendoGrid editable popup with populated data to enable the user to update such data. AAAAARGH!!!1 -
I start testing a new NodeJS framework for, I'm still quite of guy who doesn't like JavaScript in the backend (for me still a quite poor language for a lot of operations). But where I'm working now they use NodeJS (in a very pigsty way to be honest), so I decide to refactor and rewrite the application and start search about frameworks, I'm particularly huge fan of Laravel and PHP for web development and I found a framework called AdonisJS, it's amazing, the ecosystem is very stable and solid.
I start to apply some nice concepts also in the simple Todo List that I'm doing (repository pattern, resources controllers and etc).
I'm really like, you can check on my github profile https://github.com/Messhias/...
Someone is already used this framework for a real business application? I'm liking a lot to play with it.11 -
Is there such a thing as natural talent for specific categories of developers?
I've seen this occur a few times. I have more affinity for front-end development or separately, for UX, so I naturally see wireframes, I naturally know what looks good or not to a user, and I can relate to a user.
I've seen multiple backend devs who share the same complaint that they don't have a knack for front-end and that they hate front-end. They can create beautiful architectures and solve complex problems, but they tell me: "Don't ask me to tell you what looks like a good layout or not because I have no idea".
The same thing happens to me when it comes to back-end (even though I'm a Fullstack developer): Don't try to give me extremely complex problems because I will likely get very stuck, but ask me if a design would look good, ask me to design a website UX wise and I will do well without a great deal of effort.
I wonder why I have a hard time with back-end and others vice versa. Maybe we're trained more in certain areas or our brains function differently.
And so.. I wonder if more people see this happen in their workplace and if this observation holds true.3 -
I am starting on a fairly large project (a website). I am quite new to web-development. I know Laravel a little bit, but wanted to hear if I should switch to something like mean or anything else before I get to in depth with my project? Or would Laravel suffice?
As of now, I am only interested in the backend.4 -
That moment when a backend dev starts messing with frontend and says "It's just a f.ckin CSS!!" Well, fullstack thing is a myth...2
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Few years ago if someone would mention "Javascript" and "Backend" in one sentence, I would burst in laugh. With quick internet scraping I see it's becoming a reality. Quo vadis, orbis?5
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How do you guys work with forms on backend? Do you have framework in your language or do you work with raw body, parsing and validating everything with your own tools?7
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To all Full Stack js employed devs here,
How much frontend vs how much backend you do?
It's just that I'm going to be in a job with a Full Stack node/vue/ember/AWS/Redis dev role and I don't know how much frontend I'll do compared to the backend stuff, I'm alot more of a backend guy...1 -
Any backend devs here working with TypeScript? What are the best framework choices right now? I've been looking at Nest.js, but there seems to be a steep learning curve that might hamper onboarding of my (literally fresh graduate) new hires. There's also Ts.ED, which seems like the fat has been trimmed from it.
I know people will recommend something like, just using express / koa / hapi but I don't think we have the time to work with something super lightweight 😬😬😬. And besides, opinionated frameworks will speed things up for now (we have a lot of crap we want to do this incoming 2022)12 -
So I have this "idea", you know how normally most sites have the usual backend functionality, like profile, profile edit, CRUD of some thing... Well I was wondering if there is not a way to make it "granular" kind of like models that can be reused by the backend with a noSQL approach... That if selected for a site it will implement it without too much hassle... I'm not an expert here so pardon any incorrect terms... Not sure if I'm being clear insl my question... Any suggestions welcome, I don't mind researching any suggestions or guidance from someone who has accomplished this.5
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I find it unfair how many talented frontend developers get assigned to backend-only/focused positions. This is a sign of bad management that sees developers as code monkeys rather than talent.8
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In Malaysia where majority are short-sighted employers located, I am more comfortable with Backend Development with the reason that customer (as they dont know how that think work in the first place) so can't force me to change the feautre , unlike frontend, it is easy to complain about the UI/UX ... I learn all the complex topics just for fufilling the need of making this or that button rounder.
No Offense tho.10 -
So many choices for backend I'm fucking confused. Yesterday, I tried Django and i found it little similar to RoR(in generating things, db migration things).
I'm currently working in NodeJS.
I even don't know should I rant or cry.
And of course frontend is another thing same like this.....
And I'm not much experienced to differentiate them and know which is better and where it will fit.
Can anyone tell me in simple way which framework fits where?1 -
How do y'all approach media-endpoints?
Specially publicly accessible user-uploaded media
Rn I encrypt the path to the media-
/file and expose it, decrypt on the server (returning a relative file-path) which then fetches the file via File.Read and returns it as-is
I put a cache header and works fine
But something in the back of my mind makes me feel it isnt right
Like, normal endpoints and file-read endpoints shouldnt be in the same backend, potentially affecting each other
But since it's just a fun pet project so Im not paying for a 2nd baremetal server as a CDN/media server -.-
Worst case scenario I use it as-is, but would appreciate hearing other approaches9 -
Im backend dev. I just had a meeting with the full team to discuss the ui design and implementation...
But I dont see my full team meetings to discuss the sofware design and architecture... u.u3 -
Hello all,
I might be moving to England soon and I'm a drop-out. I have been coding for 5+ years and have quite an amount of experience in my hands. What courses should I consider that can boost my ability to find a job in England? Devops? Backend? Frontend? App Dev? Game Dev? I am interested and have a minor experience in DevOps, main bulk of my experience is in backend, a bit of frontend(not my field but its still coding) the other two i've had no experience in other then debugging and fixing code in several projects i've worked on.
Your help is much appreciated. Thank you.9 -
This week I started developing my first serious backend for a customer using node and graph ql, and I'm here as a Frontend Developer. But I have to say I like it. Using Vue.js with axios on Frontend side. Everything feels so intuitiv during coding.1
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Hey guys!
Well, two weeks ago I was hired as backend developer. I am the only one with macbook. The company use docker for development... On Linux, there is no problem. Docker is up in like 5 sec. But on my mac, it takes like two minutes and refresh like 20 sec. Our front end with macs has same problem. Have anyone expirience with docker and mac? ❤
Thanks a lot!4 -
Learning Falcon right now. Coming from strong front-end background having learnt Redux, React and stuff,
Falcon is what a backend framework must be! Why do you need templating in backend these days?8 -
Hey everyone, I have a quick question that idk where to ask.
Basically I'm looking for the job title for someone that manages servers on the software level, the backend services of an application. The person whose main task is to design the relationships between services so that everything's maintainable and efficient.3 -
“I forgot to tell you” - a backend dev who forgot to tell me about some changes in the prices a day before we submit our site to the client
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Dear frontend dev,
if you can't check whether a variable is defined or not, why do i have to change the back end to accept urlparam='undefined' as valid and replace it with your default value in my backend? Why are you afraid of 40X's? You should be interested in the bugs of your code.
It feels awful to have a middleware in place catching all errors and replacing them with empty 200 responses 😭. All of this because you don't fucking ensure your variables exist before use.3 -
I am doing an internship under a professor and he wants me to build a system which manages login/signup and licensing (of the products) system and license check. And for that he wants me to create REST API! I am just starting with backend development so I don't know much but from what i know it seems bad idea to implement this via rest api.
So can you guys tell me if rest api way is good or not? And if not how to implement these functionalities?6 -
My head is about to explode... Trying to wrap my head around the best way for integrating a suitable frontend solution with a symfony backend.
So many implications, so many opinions, so many possibilities.. A very big project, a lot of requirements, a very small team and most of the colleagues have their main focus on backend development though..
Feeling lost currently, not really sure how to approach this huge topic 😥4 -
Can you even call yourself a frontend dev when you betray your backend mindset by prefering JS over CSS and JSX over HTML + DOM API?3
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Hey ranters, I want to setup a centralised auth backend that assigns multiple logins/API keys to a single user account which is managed through a Frontend application.
Background is we use multiple services each with their own login system and not all support a unified login/auth method for their API.
My approach is to setup a simple API/Auth backend that stores the users credentials plus multiple API-Keys of other services or their logins. When auth is successful the Frontend app may receive the associated credentials for the other backends to call their respective API. So the user can login once but the Frontend may access all backend services without the user noticing that their are other auths.
This should be a really general problem today. I'm really just diving into the topic of auth and Frontend, so I hope to get some guidence/overview from you. My questions are:
- Is my approach totally stupid?
- Are there good frameworks you'd recommend for such a setup?
- Is there a best practice which I've overseen so far?
- Resources you think are a must-read?
- Any other recommendations regarding security here?
So, what do you ranters think? -
Trying to make a nodejs backend is pure hell. It doesn't contain much builtin functionality in the first place and so you are forced to get a sea of smaller packages to make something that should be already baked in to happen. Momentjs and dayjs has thought nodejs devs nothing about the fact node runtime must not be as restrained as a browser js runtime. Now we are getting temporal api in browser js runtime and hopefully we can finally handle timezone hell without going insane. But this highlights the issue with node. Why wait for it to be included in js standard to finally be a thing. develop it beforehand. why are you beholden to Ecma standard. They write standards for web browser not node backend for god sake.
Also, authentication shouldn't be that complicated. I shouldn't be forced to create my own auth. In laravel scaffolding is already there and is asking you to get it going. In nodejs you have to get jwt working. I understand that you can get such scaffolding online with git clone but why? why express doesn't provide buildtin functions for authentication? Why for gods sake, you "npm install bcrypt"? I have to hash my own password before hand. I mean, realistically speaking nodejs is builtin with cryptography libraries. Hashmap literally uses hashing. Why can't it be builtin. I supposed any API needed auth. Instead I have to sign and verfiy my token and create middlewares for the job of making sure routes are protected.
I like the concept of bidirectional communication of node and the ugly thing, it's not impressive. any goddamn programming language used for web dev should realistically sustain two-way communication. It just a question of scaling, but if you have a backend that leverages usockets you can never go wrong. Because it's written in c. Just keep server running and sending data packets and responding to them, and don't finalize request and clean up after you serve it just keep waiting for new event.
Anyway, I hope out of this confused mess we call nodejs backend comes clean solutions just like Laravel came to clean the mess that was PHP backend back then.
Express is overrated by the way, and mongodb feels like a really ludicrous idea. we now need graphql in goddamn backend because of mongodb and it's cousins of nosql databases.7 -
Is it wrong of me to want to learn technologies like GraphQL, databases, Nest.js, and other backend related technologies without having solid HTML, CSS, and JavaScript knowledge? I've been working with Node.js and Express.js for a couple years now but really want to dive into more of whats possible on the backend but I never felt interested to learn the frontend. I do have some very basic knowledge of HTML, CSS, and JavaScript, but I feel I couldn't pass a technical interview related to them. I just find the backend so much more interesting and fun to work with over the frontend.3
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So far in my IT class, we have been going through alot of boring html and css. I am so looking forward starting to use php, and getting into the backend development. What do you guys like the most? Frontend or backend?9
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Me: GUI team needs help from backend team to add UIDs to a (shitty) object in (their in-house shitty) db.
Backend:
Backend can display these (shitty) objects properly, why can't GUI use the entire object as composite primary key? Backend can't just add some random UID to fix GUI display bug.1 -
Is programming a website/basic backend program in TypeScript with NodeJS actually a good idea? Or should you be programming it in C#, Rust, (not PHP), Golang, etc?
I personally feel like NodeJS has pretty amazing performance considering how much less code you would write compared to the other options. Although I feel something like Rust (haven't used it yet) would be more robust but more work.
Note: I only currently know JS, TS, C#, Go and obviously HTML, CSS9 -
Procrastinating as I had to deliver a full working Android app and it'd Backend to feed data to it. I had 6 months. I pulled 2 all nighters and finished the entire project in just one week. I and I totally ducked it up. No backend optimization means with 100 users online the server will go stupid and don't know how to handle the pressure. The Android app just doesn't work on some devices due to a poor error handling. So yeah, I totally love to procrastinate, but I'll just leave that for later.
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Android Development vs Backend Development.
Hating Android & Eyeballing Backend atm.
Tell me which you'd rather do because I'm about to send the meanist fucking tweet to every "genius" @ Google.1 -
Originally designed backend to work one way but then frontend UX was shit because of how the app was structured. Have reworked frontend to be structured differently and now I have to work around the original backend structure because I don't have time to rewrite it. Everything's a mess. It works, but it could be way simpler.
This sucks.1 -
How long does it take to someone to master backend web development with either in spring or asp.net?4
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Sorry for my question. But how to inform a client that they want to see the websites I've designed? That the truth is that I haven't done anything because my job is purely backend?3
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OKAY GUYS I NEED YOU. I have an idea for an app (bet you’ve heard that before haha) and I really want to make it.
I have to learn swift, so online tutorials are my go to (pls recommend material).
However, I’ve never really done backend before, and I’ll need it to make my project (accounts & stuff). Where do I start for swift/iOS backend programming? Do I need to buy a server? Where do I host the stuff?
Pls help8 -
I'm looking for advice...
Has anyone experience with the AWS cloud?
I'm arguing with my future company partner about it. He's totally old school but is responsible for the server stuff... He does the backend for a urgently needed webapp and it takes so long (he still works in his old company the next months).
The frontend (my part) is nearly ready. I could work on the backend fulltime, but I would choose AWS Appsync with offline sync etc. First it would be quick and dirty, because it's really urgent.. he wants to do all super perfect...
How can I handle that? I talked to him many times about that, but he always says it should be done right and takes time. but for me, it's to much time. The webapp is relatively small and the work now already takes about 2 or 3 months..1 -
I'm using react-auth-kit and gave feedback to improve the library, so far so good! I was wondering if sites like codesandbox allow you to run a "backend" along with your frontend because I would like to implement some real world examples about using react-auth-kit, to improve the documentation.
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Mocha or Tape (both with supertest)? For Backend testing. Api, graphql, that shit.
What would you prefer and why?4 -
!rant
Guys, I started working on a few web dev projects the last weeks and I'd like to know your opinion on PHP. Is it a requirement for backend? Can I do the same using Node (or another?). I have pretty much no knowledge on it, but I have some xp with JavaScript. Is it worth to study PHP today?6
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