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Fuck it. I obtained a Laravel codebase with 200 routes all handled by "mainController".

😓🔨

There will be rants.

My Boss: How long will it take to create login and registration page?
Me: 30 seconds.
Boss: You can't be serious.
Me: (Spinned up Laravel, entered comand - php artisan make:auth
Me: (To Boss) It's done.
Boss: What!

Okey this made my day. Laravel Nova officially uses my open-source library vue-toasted ❤️😍😍😍

Laravel is the worst framework ever.

Everything has to be made convenient and easy. That sounds amazing, because developers want to save time, worry less about boilerplate code, right? No more constructors, no more dependency injection, fuck all the tedious OOP shit... RIGHT?

It does one thing well: Make PHP syntax uniform and concise through easily integrated libraries such as Collection and Carbon. But those are actually not really part of the framework... just commonly integrated and associated with Laravel.

The framework itself is completely derailed: You can define code in a callback in the routes file. You can define a controller in the routes file. You can define middleware as a parameter to the route, as a fluent method to the route, you can stack them up in a service provider. Validators can be made in controllers, Request objects, service providers, etc. You can send mail inline, through Mailable objects, through Notification objects, etc.

Everything is macroable, injectable, and definable in a million different places. Ultimate freedom!

Guess what happens when you give 50 developers of various seniority a swiss army knife?

One hammers in a screw with a nail file, the other clips the head from the screw using scissors, and you end up with an unworkable mess and blunt tools.

And don't get me started about Eloquent, the Active Record ORM. It's cute for the simple blog/article/author/comment queries, but starts choking when you want more selective and performant queries or more complex aggregates, and provides such an opaque apple-esque interface which lets people think everything is OK, when in reality it's forcing the SQL server to slowly commit suicide.

Laravel accepted my pull request! Ego boost, baby!

Seriously, god bless Laravel and Taylor Otwell.

I've just had a customer foolishly delete all their user accounts. The customer was seriously stressed about this and as it usually goes, this stress was echoed in the call.

I explained how they can easily restore the deleted records in a single click as I have configured Laravel's "soft delete" functionality site wide. i.e. when they delete a record it isn't really deleted. Functionality to physically delete the record is hidden away outside the client's user level.

Customer was seriously grateful and paid for 2 hours of my time (even though the call took 15 mins) and generally gave me lots of kudos.

Laravel, awesome.

I just began using Laravel and I have to say that I love it.

Hot take: PHP is pretty good nowadays.

I'm a Laravel dev right now and things just get done so quickly. Every language has its problems but the meme of PHP hate seems to be made more out of ignorance these days. You could find just as many problems with any other language.

For those that say I'm biased because I work through the framework more than the language, I'd ask don't you do the same? ASP.NET, Java EE, the millions of JS frameworks, all these also make your life easier within their languages.

In the end, work with what makes you happy and productive and be done with it.

Using laravel for 2 page resume website.

So I finally tried Laravel... And fuck this shit, I'm going back to PHP...

PM: hows the android app going?
Android Dev: gradle downloading... blocked by network admin.

PM: anyway how is the iOS app going?
iOS Dev: cocoapods downloading... blocked by network admin.

PM: ... i guess the only thing running now is the web admin right?
Laravel/VueJS Dev: composer nodejs/npm/yarn downloading... blocked by network admin.

PM: team lets retest the api endponts
Team: Postman downloading... blocked by network admin.
Team: -_- Insomnia REST Client downloading... blocked by network admin.

PM: code study?
Team: even visual studio code/android studio/xcode is blocked. :(

.... sad dev life

anyone here with the same problem?

Learning laravel. Damn this thing is cool 😃

!rant
Just managed to set up a laravel development server in my raspberry, with a fully functioning private git repo!

(Not having a CS degree nor working in IT... I am very happy with this!)

Stop hating on PHP! Version 7 along with Laravel have brought it back to life.

Today is my 1st week studying laravel via laracast. I had fun playing with php artisan 😂

Btw I'm an Android developer, and
I'm planning to shift career because my company can't get any mobile projects 😥

Laravel payment gateway
Ep 2 (part 1)

ps: all chats are dummy of the original of conversation and a little bit exaggerated but they are close to the original facts

Laravel knows how to make everyone happy!

So.. tons of sites have their Laravel .env file accessible...

Google this: filetype:env APP_ENV

I hate Laravel.

Every time I want to implement something it is already part of the laravel framework and does work better than I can ever imagine. Where is my struggle?!

Ok so I was talking to my computer science teacher earlier and he said that he would rather use vim over PHPStorm for creating a laravel project. WTF!

Normally I would be cool with it, but he has pushed faulty code to git over 8 times. I'm just done.

** Programmers Speak **

Don't know much about real life,

But Relationships in Laravel are important.

Omg whhhy do things change so much from Laravel 5.x to 5.4? Tutorials are useless! And Google, I love you, but giving me laravel 4 answers as top results for my query specifying 5.4 is just infuriating!!!

I started this month hating php and laravel. Now i kinda love them

At work I use C# / .net but outside work I use PHP / Laravel.

I notice they are very similar.

Also .net used “razor”

Laravel uses “blade” - “razor blade”

Is there some sort of overlap between .net and laravel I’m not aware of?

I gave a chance to PHP using Laravel. My conclusions: Laravel is such a great framework, PHP sintax is hell but its a powerfull language.

My company took over a project that was previously sent overseas . (PHP, laravel 5.1) so I was pointed a lead developer in this project, when I emailed the "senior developer " from the previous company about version control and code documentation. He assured me there was nothing to worry about . ... I found 450 line methods without comments and as version control I found zip files with dates as the name ... fML this is gonna be a long summer

The moment when they recommend you WordPress over Laravel just because it has better SEO.

Bitch, I write my own SEO. I'm not only on the first page I am the top result. Bet you didn't expect that.

LARAVEL MEME OF THE DAY
If 60> requests are sent in a short amount of time (and you have Laravel Passport installed) you will not receive an IlluminateResponse instance anymore; you will instead receive a slightly different SymfonyResponse.

Why? For the glory of Satan, of course.

If your code doesn't account for that undocumented garbage, your code will start throwing middle fingers here and there.

Tell me again the productivity joke with Laravel, I've just lost an hour and a half 'cause unit tests were failing and I had no idea why.

I think im in love with Laravel

I'm a Vietnamese, I'm learning Laravel :))

I can't await Laravel 6.

I love Laravel.

Have a good day :)

So, company I work at, is on desperate need of PHP developers, who can work in WordPress and Magneto. Company announced vacancy.

Only 20 CVs were dropped 4 days before from today. So company called all of them for interview and I was one of the interviewer. Most of applicants told me that they know Laravel but not WordPress.

I was like fine. Maybe they can work on WordPress too. But I was wrong. Here are some funny interviews:

Me: how many types of inheritance does PHP support?
Applicant 1: 7. Single, multiple, etc..

Me: Do you know difference between interface and abstract class?
Applicant 2: (he just said some gibberish)

Me: why do u prefer Laravel to WordPress?
Applicant 3: because by default Laravel support payment gateway, so we can create e commerce application faster. WordPress doesn't support payment gateway.

Me: how many WordPress site you have worked on?
Applicant 4: I have 4 themes in WordPress.org
Me: Do you create all of them by yourself?
Applicant 4: Yes
Me: Do u know difference between require and include?
Applicant 4: No
Me: Do u know difference between query_posts and WP_Query?
Applicant 4: No
Me: (facepalm)

After doing some Vue, I probably will go with laravel for the backend.

I'm excited about that, but it feels just right.

And today in Laravel-land, how to take fluent APIs to the utmost consequences.

Better...? Seriously? All your lines got longer and you know have closures to run.

Found another Laravel gem in this horror codebase.

Making an API REST endpoint in laravel, adding this just for the fun XD

Laravel is the only reason why working in PHP is interesting
and
PHP is the only reason why it Sucks

> Laravel lets you create migrations to manage the state of the DB
> your colleague doesn't give a flying fuck, just raw SQL on the db to perform every change
> performed initial insertions without seeders, can't reproduce his db on my local environment
> can't even run migrations anymore 'cause it would break everything

PHP with Laravel is awesome, best framework ever. I just wish my client is convinced, there is something he doesn't like about PHP

Gahhhh!

Just inherited a HR backend written in Laravel. However, ALL database interaction is done using DB::raw() i.e.

$results = DB::select( DB::raw("SELECT * FROM tbl WHERE col = '$fromThe QueryStringLOl'") );

No models at all :(

FML.

I am in love with Laravel <3

Been in a creative company for more than a year working as front-end, mostly CSS3 Animations and jQuery.
Today got a Job Offer in a startup about building an ERP for Albanian Market, mostly in Laravel and Vue.js
I was so excited for the first 30 minutes and then I remembered that I don't know so much Laravel and Vue, also I must work with an other guy which has lesser experience than me.

Totally scared about this new exp but ready to go for it :D

Any suggestions is really appreciated!!!!!

Laravel payment gateway
Ep 2 (part 2)

ps: all chats are dummy of the original of conversation and a little bit exaggerated but they are close to the original facts

I'm curious, why did they rename Laravel Elixir to Laravel Mix?

I hate php but I love laravel :|

This might not resonate with many ranters here... but FUCK Taylor Otwell & Graham Campbell.

Like, not on a personal level. Maybe they're great to drink a beer with. But as framework devs... fuck everything about them.

Laravel seems so nice, it takes away many annoyances of developing in PHP. Collections are the array object you've always needed. The route bindings, middlewares, request validation objects, it's all sweet.

But eventually your company serves a few million customers, you run into specific performance problems or missing features on a deeper level. You open the issue tracker... and see a few hundred issues about the problems you are encountering, they already exist.

Some just have a short paragraph with a request for a feature, some complete PRs with tests in the style of the framework. All of them closed.

Reasons?

"We don't think anyone will ever need this"
"This seems complicated, you can just do <super non-DRY hacky code>"

FUCK YOU WITH YOUR TODO APP SNIPPETS AND USER-POST-ARTICLE EXAMPLES. I'M NOT BUILDING THE NEXT WORDPRESS. I'M DEALING WITH THE REALITY OF GRAPH DATABASE CLUSTERS, COMPLEX AUDITING LOGS AND A GAZILLION QUERIES PER SECOND.

Sigh... the problem with all these "simple" and "elegant" languages & frameworks is that they don't fucking scale.

Not because the language, server or framework intrinsically can't do it, but because the maintainers are stuck thinking in terms of their retarded non-realistic example apps.

I think I'll go back to my cave and write some Haskell or Rust to calm down.

Did successful XSS in a website.
Later on, found out that the web was built on laravel.
Still trying to figure out the level of negligence required to make a xss vulnerable laravel website

Laravel, but I'm getting better

If I see one more Laravel dev I'mma commit a war crime
If I see one more Laravel dev dropping env(something) around the code I'mma commit _SEVERAL_ war crimes

Remember kids: you don't work with Laravel. If you do (you don't, but let's assume), ENV IS USED ONLY IN CONFIGURATION FILES, OR LARAVEL CACHING SYSTEM FUCKING BREAKS. Ok?

Just wondering why most of you here hate php. I have multiple live projects using the Laravel framework, runs great and I love it!

How many Laravel PHP users here?

Me when I use Laravel components in an old none Laravel project and save myself time.

I'm sorry but Laravel is for brainless programmers who wants to be spoon feed all the time.

Laravel is maybe fast to develop and easy to understand but its only because it is poorly designed/written.

That damn Eloquent, if misuse by ignorant or amateur programmer, will definitely bring a disaster to the whole system.

That moment when a senior dev says "let's use Wordpress AND Laravel for 1 website".

Went back to Laravel from JS stack after a year. Thought I might have a lot of errors while setting up but everything is working so perfectly that I'm becoming suspicious 😕

Sick and fucking tired of this bullshit.
Previously worked with Laravel, used 'gulp watch' to watch for changes in assets and now they changed things for the better of Laravel Mix as a fucking wrapper for webpack. Now I have to do shit load more stuff to get gulp working, 'cause otherwise my 'npm run watch' shits itself every fucking time I run that shit, doesn't matter what fix is aplied. Battling that bullshit for 3 days now and shit's not working anyhow. Stupid fucking bullshit. Sorry, had to let it out from myself.

!rant

Wish me luck. I am done with the spaghetti mess.

There is a stock management system written using laravel and jQuery. There are mistakes in database structure. There are lots of I-dont-know-what-this-function-do-so-i-should-leave-it-alone codes. There are lots of repeated and duplicated functions.

Gonna start things from scratch and will also start using vue. This week's Thursday and Friday are public holidays here. I hope I can code my ass off and finish the migration/refactoring/cleaning shit by Sunday.

Yesterday I killed a production server with a handful of sites running on it. 😬

Created an observer for one of my Laravel models. It was generating new translated slugs when another post gets translated by an API. While implementing also an updated method besides the created observation I obviously updated the models slug.
Pretty confident this small update will work I just pushed to production. Tested it live.

BOOM

Hard reset on the server redoing the changes. Searching where I fucked up this time...

Finding me observing the updating while updating the updating of the updating by the updating. 🤦

> laravel
> but also trans
> inside the fucking routes

Ok this is it that's where I cry

Just got our development Laravel docker image down to under 124 MB with alpine linux. The satisfaction...

Fucking updates broke my Laravel project. 😫😤

In love with Laravel events, listeners and mailables. What a beautiful way of doing this. Can't say how much I love this framework. <3

Can't wait to implement redis and queues. Am excited to try this for the first time. Share exp. if you have, pls.

Thanks Laravel, I really appreciate your error 500s.

Me after fixing a stupidly obscure bug in a Laravel backend that has haunted me for 2 days :)

Laravel is LOVE:)

I had the oppertunity to join a non profit organization to help them automate stuff instead of serving the army. One of their core applications got rewritten like a year ago from a terrible and very old Symfony stack to Laravel / React.

The guys who were in charge for the rewrite didn't really adapt the mindset of either MVC for Laravel nor the component idea behind React. There are a few controllers in the backend, but they sometimes have functions defined which would clearly belong in a model or service class. They rarely defined relationships on models, instead they're joining the tables together for the same effect. The frontend rendering mostly happens in for loops over the returned array from the API instead of breaking things down into little components. This ends in components which have sometimes over 1000 lines with super-nested logic in it.

But I did find my favorite piece of code today in of the controllers. Some many questions ...

Well I wish I could abandon jQuery and bootstrap all together and just use some vuejs admin template with my Laravel app. But things are not that easy and I am a lvl 1.0 vuejs user.

So sorry V girl, you gotta learn how to live with Mr.J for a few more months.

!rant

Woohoooooo. Laravel Nova sounds so promising. Woohoooooo. I'm so hyped. Woohoooooo.

any laravel fans out there ?:)

> Mister IHateForALiving, we need a new table on the website do to thing

No biggie, we know there's a datatable plugin somewhere.

> No, you can't use that, it doesn't have pagination

Oh, right. I also see here it was last updated 4 years ago, it's kinda shit too, it's like the inbred cousin of a real datatable. Ok, how did you tackle the thing until now?

> There's a script template somewhere in the page, we iterate over that to create our tables

Ok, but I'll have to write some logic for that, how much time do I have?

> I want this to be online by this evening

Can't be done, what if we used a normal datatable like normal people?

> No, it looks too different from the real site

How am I supposed to manage the thing then?

> IDK, just reload the page every time

_____________
And here we are, triggering a full page reload on an already bloated Laravel app (something like 600-800ms) for 20 lines of json. Great idea mister team leader, but consider the following: fuck you and your bastard lineage.

An elastic search package for Laravel.

I have developed 3 apps so far in laravel and I can say I'm in a mid level between beginner and expert.
But every time I set up a new laravel environment I feel like this is the first time I see laravel.

Sooooo.....
I just spend roughly 5 hours trying to get a Laravel Homestead up and running. Constantly jumping from one error to the other, getting nowhere.

Turns out that,
...
...
I NEVER FUCKING GENERATED A BLOODY SSH KEY
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
AN ENTIRE DAY WASTED
JESUS CHRIST

I swear, I'm way too junior for like 95% of this shit....

One day at the office at whoever built Laravel

Dev: sir, most of devs use php, we can use good old php expressi...
Boss: no, dump all of them, we'll create our own functions that do same job
Dev: ok... So our devs will use mysql, we can use sql quer...
Boss: dump them all too, again, we will make our own functions that dont look anything like that
Dev: we can also use standard...
Boss: NO STANDARDS! Creare every single php method or sql query in another method that does the same job...

Eloquent is so fucking slow, my (dead) grandma queries faster. It takes the fucking double of time on a simple query with only one join for maybe ~200 rows... From now on I go fucking back to raw SQL in my Laravel projects. 😤

Is there any way to have both blade templates syntax highlighted and not lose the php intellisense in vscode?

Using the laravel-blade plugin does solve the blade highlighting, but removes any php intellisense and none of the intellisense plugins seem to fix that

How many projects do you have going at anyone time?

Me: I'm currently working on two laravel and a WordPress theme.

I always hated laravel, i was like mehhh you dumb fucks lazy ass write your code, but i gotta admit i changed my mind when i tried it!

Omg Laravel is a nightmare

What a fucking retarded dickhead the laravel creator is, after having multiple hours/days of checking and asking people, we figured out, that apparently you cant mix variablenames in lumen afterall (like the docs are saying), so either you stick with the same variablenames you have in your route, make them all something different or you get fucked by random variables taking dominance and replacing the order completely. You'd think one can just make a PR to the docs on github and submit as much information as possible and it'll be fixed, right? no, you cant, that fucking blown balloony retard just closes it immediately with the notice of "I believe this is already noted in docs" - although it isn't thats the whole point you fucking blow up doll, how the fuck are people supposed to know your piece of shit will fuck the order completely, just because of one thing that isn't mentioned anywhere!

from laravel to magento2 to laravel to raw php... life is going pretty well.. 🙂

I don't understand Laravel...

I'm just a software undergrad in my final year. Coming from JS side of things (Express, NextJS), I find Laravel so complex, and maybe unnessecarily complex?

Like, when I wanna learn Laravel, I understand the MVC structure. However, going deeper into it, there are libraries/names like
1. Vagrant
2. Facade
3. Artisan
4. Guard
5. Gate
6. Policies
ALL OF THESE
WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT TIES TO THE FUCKING MVC STRUCTURE

I'm seriously giving up... My courses forces us to learn this framework, and I feel more and more inadequate because I have so many things to learn, including things for my FYP, which involves the use of NextJS. And can I mention HOW EASY AND MINIMALISTIC JS FRAMEWORKS ARE?

LIKE, I JUST WANNA MAKE A STUPID FUCKING APP MAN, WHY MUST I KNOW SHIT LIKE ARTISAN MAKE, WHAT THE FUCK VAGRANT IS, HOW GATES ARE RELATED TO POLICIES, HOW POLICIES RELATE TO VIEWS, WHY THE FUCK DOES FACADE EXIST, and other fucking stupid questions I need to ask in order to utilize Laravel correctly?

Don't even get me started on JETSTREAM, FORTIFY, LARAVEL/UI, BREEZE. Like, WHY THE FUCK CAN'T YOU JUST HAVE ONE SINGLE PATTERN, AND THEN HAVE GOOD TUTORIALS RELATED TO THAT ONE SINGLE THING?

I don't know, am I just stupid? Looking at Laravel, I feel like my braincells die more and more looking at the words used, the unusual terms, and the pain that comes with trying to learn it, because I don't have time. I'm going to fucking fail this subject because I have too much other stuff in my life to learn about.

I'm fucking tired man...

Just started to learn Laravel and OMG THAT SHIT'S AMAZING

**Installing Homestead for laravel**
Errors coming which are not understandable...
After couple of hours errors changed**
Maybe I did some progress.......still working on it

Spent fucking 11 hrs on fixing a stupid bug in Laravel that caused all my unit tests to fail. Just because that unit testing method has no unit test...

I have an issue with my Laravel routing. Can you help me out, @bittersweet?

I have a custom "/home" route called "/admin" and I set the protected property in the LoginController:

$redirectTo = "/admin";

And it works fine, if I log in from guest. But when I navigate to "/login" as auth-user it still redirects me to "/home".

What the fuck is this? What do I have to change to make this work? Who has to be fucked? Is it possible to solve this without sacrificing a virgin at bloodmoon? And why are Platypus so fucking ugly?

....in the end, gotta go using laravel. Let's do it 🤖

When a framework is updated, and it screws up the entire project!

Looking at you, Laravel.

Our dev uses laravel and instead of doing a sum to get a total of a couple columns he is getting all values and manually counting them up in the php.
he keeps telling he cant improve and i cant work on his code because i know i will break the rest.
when i looked at the code i had the following feeling.

My first rant in ages:
Been assigned to a new Laravel project at work and the murthafucking lead dev got no fucking clue how to architect a big laravel app. Lead dev talking trash about encapsulation and every big oop grammar he can find while asking us to come up with an architecture concept for the app.
My annoyance is, the fecking project been in planning for like 7 months and d lead dev keeps saying he is looking for ideas on how we will build the app. Fuck this shit!

Who the fuck invented the glorified pile of shit people call laravel? Is this actually used in PROD for anything else than load testing a monitoring server by creating loads of error messages?
OOP exists for a reason, not to create bazillions of classes with static methods.
Dump that shit ffs!

have job other from other company (same money, different stack) Magento vs Laravel... I hate Magento more then Magento 1.9 and love Laravel... should I take a risk?

Completed a project in summer for a client based on Laravel and kept working on other projects based on same framework. Today went back to add some functionality ended up feeling miserable looking at my own code. Don't know how to feel about this.

How I usually think about Laravel

I'd probably get laughed at for even mentioning "php"..

But what is the best framwork for getting started with PHP to build some complex site?

I have seen some here talking good about either codeignitor or laravel. Not sure.

Does anyone find the laravel documentation just lacking? It seems like it the twitter feed of documentation leaving out very important information that leaves me banging my head for hours. I really like laravel and much better than working with raw php but I wish there was an option in the drop down for additional a more flushed out version with more code examples. I understand experts don't want to parse through tons of text just to find the correct artisan command but c'mon.

thinking about getting a laracasts subscribtion, is it worth it at all? I've recently been working with PHP a lot, and my OOP skills are pretty narrow tbh, I wanted to learn more OOP and laravel, because there are a lot of job's that require you laravel knowledge.

The best way to learn something imo is starting a project
I used to start small projects for that but now im doing my biggest project with laravel now its 90% done

I just fixed a bug I've been trying to fix for over 10 hours. "Email not sending in laravel notifications but sending with Mail::send". How did I fix it?

Changed "email_address" to "email" because that's what the framework was expecting.

How do I explain this to my client? 😂😂

I switched recently from Silex PHP to Laravel, and i love it, it is a great Franework!

Any laravel fans out there?

I have a programming tutorials website I built from scratch in the PHP framework Laravel 5.4. Recently my friends have been pushing me to use WordPress instead.
I haven't worked with WordPress yet but I just hate it. I always think that it will not give me the flexibility I might need when adding new features.
This has put me in great doubt and anxiety about what I'm doing.
Is wordpress a better choice? I'm I just being lazy about the WordPress stuff?
I'll appreciate any advice on this.

Cracked a nut by dropping Laravel framework on it. This framework is fucking heavy.

Just got an internship a few days ago. The manager threw a project at me. I have to do it alone. It's a user-system (registration, login etc.) The front-end is ready. And I have to build its back-end in PHP. I started to draw the project on paper (pseudocode) and then asked a few questions about design patterns to jump into coding. They recommended me Laravel. I'm good at PHP (procedural) and have done some basic OOP. I've actually built a few projects in Python using OOP. But I've never used any framework (yeah, I know). So I started to learn Laravel and realized that it's very different than normal PHP (procedural or even normal OOP). I almost don't write any normal PHP code. This makes me confused. But I have to learn it fast and well, and finish the project to hit the deadline and get the full-time job. I'm desperately looking for any kind of help to learn Laravel more effectively! I've googled and got some recommendations. But I need more live help from devs directly.

This idiot client wanted me to code within a laravel app. He wanted me to use laravels translation helpers. He also wanted me to put every piece of code into a php file in the public directory and I must not change any of Laravels framework files...

I denied.

Last week me and my friend have been changed from a legacy PHP project to new Ruby on Rails-based setup. What, in first instance, looked like a great improvement, now becomes a nightmare.

All this convention-over-configuration is awesome - but only if you already know the conventions, or if somebody told'em to you.

And everything is going even more out of control because the damn project is based upon Spree gem and several other extensions, that MUST be changed to meet out company needs.

I'm getting really mad with all this pressure. Ruby seems to be a great language, but I'd rather be working with Laravel. Its overall organization, the centralization of CLI commands in artisan, and the astoundingly clear, eloquent, direct and well-designed documentation made my adoption curve there a little more pleasant.

I mean, legacy PHP systems are awful, but Laravel framework sounds way more easy-to-learn and well-constructed when compared to rails.

But given all this nightmare, I really want to be proved the opposite.

procrastinative coding is a bad habit of mine. I've been using php for 10+ years and just recently got into laravel. I have to say I love it but at times I wish I could have learned the entire framework before starting my project some time ago. as I am coding I learn new tricks with laravel on how to do things and have to waste time and go back and change existing code... or tell myself "I'll come back to this after the launch".
I'm just wondering how other people handle taking on new frameworks

I love Laravel, I really do... but it does make me feel like pulling my hair out quite a few times daily.

I already HATE Laravel, and I haven't even got it working yet. I have now wasted 3 days on this bullshit

!rant

I'm sorry for doing this:

Laravel or Symfony?

I was wrong again, I broke the Laravel install. Fucking Homestead...

Me and some friends are working on creating a food recipe app and webapp. Currently in Norwegian, but would it be worth the trouble of translating all content and the app itself?

Backend written in PHP/MySQL with Laravel and app written with Ionic Framework v1.

"(Getting) otwelld"

The state of a fallen laravel developer, after he makes a PR to the laravel or lumen documentation and the epic troll otwell closes it within a minute, with the epic meme "already there", although the documentation is absolute dogshit at places and actually merging those PRs would make sense, so not every single developer out there has to make the same mistake or debugging

Fifth server been created on amazon so i can finally deploy my laravel web app. Has been 3 days so far...
Fuck me

I'm looking for collaborators for a site I'm making in laravel for my dad's apple/produce orchard business. I've pretty much have finished front end design but could use help in the back end development. I can't really pay anyone right now because I'm broke but it's more resume material and you would be helping a brother out so anyone interested let me know:)

Built a e-commerce site using Laravel for the company I work for... I'm part time and only make $12 an hour and I'm technically just a system administrator. Half tempted not to give them the project until they sign a contract that either makes me full time and better pay or like 4% commission for every sale in the site for the first 2 years or something.

So all u great web developers who use laravel. Do u use theme/template and build web pages / admin panels or do u do smth else...what about front end websites

I just started on a Laravel project for a customer. Damn I’ve got a hate/love relationship with that thing.

I fucking love how fucking fast development is it in, even for fairly complex tasks, amazing.

I fucking hate how goddamn fucking slow development is when you get an error, as that shit is near impossible to debug, and you keep getting weird exceptions that you just need to know what means.

Trying to set up and begin a project in laravel has been the worst environment setup experience I've ever had.

I laughed so hard when I saw this method for laravel 5.3. Why does this exist!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

A common walkthrough with Laravel deployment:
1.) Error 403
2.) Internal server error 🤔
3.) bad require paths in index.php....
4.) Whooops something went wrong.. What?.... Look at log file with 2MB size
5.) View not found

const topic = 'Laravel'
const subtopic = 'Queues'

Have you used Redis? Have you used it as your Queue driver? Is it cool? Are there better alternatives?

What package do you recommend for charts with Laravel?

laravel is a very serious framework

there is a laravel this for every that

I have to deal with npm too? impressive

was looking for a simple to learn framework just to take my mind of js and someone recommended laravel.

I’m on a laravel project which is going great, the ass rapping part of it is compiling this fucking sass with laravel fucking mix... fuck it I’m setting up gulp

Android 10 and laravel 6 launches tommorow.

Laravel on iis, is that possible?

How do you think about Laravel?
Does it made PHP more simple or just satisfied lazy developers 😀?

DAILY LARAVEL PROBLEMS

I need to parse a JWT with some custom claims. There's a JWT library with Laravel; documentation really lacking, kinda hardcoded to work with Laravel but whatever; it's already installed, let's see what can I do with it.

It turns out I can't say something like "take this token, parse it, tell me it's valid". Let's see how that goes.
You need to build a parsing class with a manager, some auth stuff, a parser.
To build said manager you need a provider that implements a contract, a blacklist, a factory (of what?)
To build the factory (of what?) you need a claim factory and a payload validator
To build the claim factory you need a request
To build the blacklist you need a Storage
To build the storage you need a CacheContract
To build a CacheContract you need IDK it's a mess
To build the contract you need... IDK for real

WHY LARAVEL IS SHIT: 'cause only in this framework it seems reasonable to build this clusterfuck to parse a base64 encoded string, throw some json_decode and check a signature. And have it work only to authenticate a user.

Created an affiliate tracker / split test tracker / campaign tracker for my Laravel project in 1.5 days.

Not bad, not bad.

Now, should I offer it on github? Seems like I might be kicking myself in the balls if I did.

On the one hand, I don't have a lot of time atm, on the other, I'd love to meet fellow programmers who seek out and would want this, and perhaps contribute. Could lead to some great partnerships down the line..

Anyone have experience with this? Did it take a lot more time than you thought, did you meet other programmers and ended up collaborating on future projects?

Curious..

To all the laravel developers: is there no way to get a clean new app without having to clean out all the default shit? Lumen seems to be pretty good for minimalism, but obv. doesnt provide as much as Laravel, so what do you use or do - do you each time clean out a laravel app before you start developing on it?..

Symfony or Laravel, what are your thoughts?

Taylor Otwell

Laravel is amazing

just did quick look on post about some guy comparing Laravel vs Rails vs Django. His conclusion was Django is the toughest one to learn o_0. Funny thing is i found out it's bit off.

What are your thoughts about Symfony VS Laravel?
I prefer Laravel. It is much simpler than Symfony but most enterprises are using Symfony. However Laravel is keeping up also (gaining a lot of traction and users).

Laravel = Symfony on Steroids

I wonder why so many people prefer Laravel?

Who's a hardcore Symfony user here? I experienced using both but I prefer Laravel.

Right now I'm studying NodeJS, Express, Angular as it is more popular than Symfony. Also most requiremetns in job posting nowadays.

OMGGGG... One week ago when I was hired, for web developer they said we need ppl in Laravel but I was towards react ( also when I did interview I said I will most likely go to react) . Okay so I agree to Laravel.. ofc I want the job but today they hire a person for react 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂

Wao

When we have Python,Ruby,Elixir,Scala,Clojure,Js
why we should use PHP LARAVEL ?
i cant understand persons which use php & laravel
why u use php or laravel ? how its possible to use php-laravel instead of cool things like Django -ROR ? Are u crazy ?

Laravel + bootstrap vs Vue + standalone API?

Met Symfony first .. fell in love .. Then I met Laravel fell in love again ..! Now am confused with whom to propose .. :/

Damn Laravel 8 changed...

This whole Jetstream thing is kinda cool and infuriating....

I love the features but hate the code. I want ny laravel pug views back. Q_Q

Start new project today. After several years doing C# and Java,now i face new challenge with something that i never heard before.God, please give me strength to do this..
CKAN..Python..OSTicket..Laravel..nice to meet you.

About 3 years ago, we had 4 different WordPress sites for various clients.

My colleagues thought it'd be a genius idea to keep them all in one repo. Even more genius, for local development, a single installation which implements a switcher for the wp-config.php files so we can switch between sites. Not bad in theory.

Fast-forward to present day. 1 client left; another site got converted to using Laravel because they always asked us to update their content so no point using a CMS; whereas the remaining 2 sites use differing versions of WordPress on their live sites, no less than 18 months out of date, have no dev sites, different collection of plugins and themes and both modified to the deepest darkest depths of fucking hell that's barely recognisable as WordPress anymore and next to no documentation or comments around the changes.

The functions.php file of one of these themes is over 4000 lines long!!!

We're keen to upgrade our servers to use Ubuntu 16.04 which defaults to PHP7, so all the already deprecated WordPress functions will then fail to work completely as will have been removed.

Both of these clients have agreed that they wish to convert Laravel as well so there's not really much point in going through the clean up process of their WordPress sites. Just copy the database nuke it all and start a fresh with Laravel FFS!

They also wish to completely redesign and discuss what features to keep/add/remove. With no date for these redesign meetings in sight, we won't be converting to Laravel any time soon, nor upgrading our servers in the foreseeable future either!

This is all because of one dev in the office and his history of failing to keep on top of breaking changes!

Fuck you! Seriously, fuck you!!!

If I was your superior, then you'd have been fired long ago!

Is anyone using Slack? I just downloaded it in order to use it with Laravel notifications. How is your experience with this?

After working with Laravel for a while and all the awesomsauce of blade engine, I had to go back and make a Wordpress theme for a client...

The amount of opened and closed php tags in view files is just hidious to look at... :(

Which is better and which has bigger scope in future - CodeIgniter or Laravel or Symphony?

I have an nginx question.

Is it possible to send example.com/ requests to a Laravel app and send all other requests to an WordPress app?

CodeIgniter-4 V/s Laravel-5.x..!!!!

Why would anyone want to run Laravel when it runs so much slower than raw PHP? Surely the development time saved is negated by the amount of optimisation work required?

Why can't I wrap my head around laravel enough to build an authentication system I've built before 😖😡😠

External Login Service and my app would be an OAuth2 client receiving an id token...and no there isn't a third party integration for this login service

Oh god..
Starts using Laravel Framework
Code some lines
Everything works fine now
*Let see what happens if I delete this*
Error
Naturally
*Redo delete*
Run *OK, now it should work like before*
Error
Why??

First day of new job. No more rants about Blue Prism, that's in the past now. New year new me!

Time to go back to rant against backend developers and their fucking Laravel.

First lesson of the day: if I see another select2 I'm gonna commit war crimes. You see this nice plugin for jQuery, you use it everything's so cool and modern and you think you're the smart one of the team 'cause you don't know you've just polluted an otherwise perfectly fine web page with the dirtiest js shit you could possibly find, just because you didn't feel like searching one more minute for whatever replacement for a drop down you can easily find.

You're not the smart one. You're a criminal.

Using symfony for years. Tried to help a friend with Laravel. I feel like I was rolling in a mud for 3h.

Anyone know a good open source web page builder? If there's a laravel integration would be better.

Got a client needs this very soon!

Sort of just assumed someone did it, but yeah, like there's lots, I see wink, grapejs, etc. But there's gotta be one perfect for my needs.

Thanks!

Anybody playing with Laravel Nova? Just finished skimming the videos, and I mean, wow?

Am I seeing this right, or basically you can now create an entire, simple app about 10 times faster than Laravel.

I just learned the existence of Laravel. It made my life 1000 times better. I will just abandon the normal PHP coding workflow, I will juet use Laravel now. I love it.

Just started my first small laravel project (a chat app). current state: i can chat with myself -awesome! Almost forgot about this good feeling learning great new stuff :)

Go away laravel, nobody likes your magic methods.

Am I the only one thinking that maatwebsite/laravel-excel package is poorly documented?
Trying to make it work for excel file reading I have to do. 4 attempts (every attempt by 6h) - shit's not working like intended. Poor examples, code itself - just..not connecting dem dots, m9.

Just had to let it out from my system.

After 2 days of reverse engineering another developers code, I wish Laravel would go and die in a fire.

When you were up until 3am figuring out why you're Guzzle cookie jar in Laravel wasn't working...

Needed:

$this->app->bind(...);

Instead of:

$this->app->singleton(...);

Stupid service providers...

CodeIgniter or Laravel or Procedural PHP?

laravel tutorials

Laravel Excel is shit and has shit documentation as well. PHPExcel may not be as pretty as a bunch of callbacks but it's more efficient and actually gets the job done.

Laravel, show me your beautiful face!

I want to start learning Ruby on rails ,I have some good knowledge of laravel.
Any good advices?

Hi 👋.

I'm starting to learn laravel. Do you guys have and tips or something like that for newbies that you'd like to share?

3 hours 3 devs "I definitely haven't changed anything that would cause this" "oh wait, I have this hidden magic feature which sets this to make it easier for me" :@ Laravel magic should be banned!!

!rant
I'm not the biggest web developer, but has anybody used Laravel and what do you think of it?

How bad of an idea is to delve into php in 2019? But since I have to, I would like few links on how web applications are made in php or it's frameworks such as laravel.

Are laracasts worth the money?
I want to learn Laravel finally to move from Codeigniter to Laravel.. The free ones are good but maybe the paid are unnecessary..

2 days of trying Java/Android dev made me love PHP/Laravel again 😂

Me, when I figure I'm looking at the documentation of a different Laravel version and Otwell decided to fcking change shit again.

dd() in Laravel. Just the best debugger.

Django vs laravel for restful api ? Or any other framework ?
With a lot of req per sec
I'm so comfortable with laravel but don't mind using Python

Tnx <3

You can say whatever you want about Laravel, but Request validation is simply beautiful...

I'm very excited about restructuring completely a database only using laravel migrations. ☺️

When you can install laravel with homestead but you can't see the girl you like because the sky is literally fucking falling...

WHAT YOU WANT FROM ME?

So I came from a Laravel background, I love using it. I mean, Laravel is beautiful!

However, the city I want to move in have ZERO Laravel jobs, most of them are looking for Django and Rails developers. So already knowing Python, I decided to learn Django to get a job in that city and add it on my skillset.

I like it, I watched FCC's tutorial on Django, I'm ready to start and create my first Django project, was so excited and proud of myself until... I found out that:

1.) Django lacks built-in seeder
2.) It's confusing to customize the authentication function
3.) Styling of forms is in Python-level, not on template-level (unless you install a 3rd-party package)
4.) Integrating frontend framework requires manual setup
and many more...

I enjoy Python, and tbh I plan on making it my main language, but this is just... too frustrating.

I was maintaining Laravel 5.1 code and at that time recently updated to 5.3. Updated all server softwares n everything which took a lot of my time.

After a month, I had to add a field to table and found unusual error. In laravel 5.1 migrations, created_at and updated_at default values were set as 0000-00-00 00:00:00 and mysql update didnt allow it.

Now everything else works fine except I can't make changes to tables. Should I leave it as it is?

What do Laravel developers love to eat.

#laravel is worse than SO. At least people reply in SO.

Laravel vs Django ...

F*ck you Laravel, just f*ck you.
just spent the whole night trying to make the router to work, reinstalled lamp over and over again, htaccess looks good, still getting internal errors. Why can't we just work with Node?