Any devs here that Code in C/C++...?
Or am I lost in "webRant".

I am worried about the future " code everything in javascript " generation :)

Make pointers great again!

Junior job requirements be like:
Required:
5 year experience in Php,
8 years experience in JavaScript,
Masters degree in CS,
10 years experience in React and or AngularJS

Bonuses:
Worked for Microsoft in their first year.

Salary: 20k/PA 6 month performance review.

Took an interview today.

Me - What do you think JavaScript is interpreted or compiled.

Guy(5+ years of UI exp) - It's neither of them. It just runs on browser.

At that moment I slowly started fading away into a black hole for the absolute peace and embrace death.

Overheard this phone conversation:

"So I have to use Internet explorer since it is the only one that supports JavaScript.

I had to upgrade Java to use it, and now it has to be internet explorer, not even Chrome or Firefox supports JavaScript."

I honestly wanted to punch her in the face.

"Position: Java developer
Requirements: Knowledge in C, C++, C#, JavaScript, Python, frameworks like jQuery or Angular (preferable)"

Do you need a Java developer or some kind of development deity?

JavaScript for Dummies (or.. Kids)

I just invented a new JavaScript operator. It's named "plus with wings", and it's used to sum to numbers without ambiguity or any need of type conversion, for example:

3 -+- "2" // 5

"2.1" -+- "4" // 6.1

"-1.1" -+- "" // -1.1

So, from now, you won't have to wonder anymore what type is that variable.

Tested on all browsers

I hate everybody who says JavaScript is the best language because of loose typing and its easy to learn, YES OF COURSE IT IS EASY!

ITS FUCKING JAVASCRIPT! IT WAS MEANT TO BE EASY! AND THEN SOME ASSHOLE CAME ALONG, CREATED NODE AND THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA!
NOW WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS SHIT EVERYWHERE BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO WROTE CODE FOR UX NOW THINK THEY KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON THE SERVERSIDE!!
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT I HATE THIS ANALTOY OF A LANGUAGE.
YOU THINK JAVASCRIPT IS THE BEST?! DO YOU REALLY??!!! OH YEAH!?!
WELL FUCK YOU AND GO TO HELL, YOU ARE NOT A DEVELOPER IN MY EYES, GO HOME KIDDO, LEARN C OR ASM OR HOW A FUCKING COMPUTER ACTUALLY WORKS!!
AND THEN TELL ME AGAIN JAVASCRIPT IS A WELL DESIGNED AND PROPER LANGUAGE!!
I'M OUT!

Job posting I saw a few weeks back:

"Looking for a web developer who knows JavaScript or how most people refer to as Java."

Jesus...

PineScript is absolute garbage.

It's TradingView's scripting language. It works, but it's worse than any language I have ever seen for shoddy parsing. Its naming conventions are pretty terrible, too:

transparency? no, "transp"
sum? no, cum. seriously. cum(array) is its "cumulative sum."

There are other terrible names, but the parser is what really pisses me off.

1) If you break up a long line for readability (e.g. a chained ternary), each fragment needs to be indented by more than its parent... but never by a multiple of 4 spaces because then it isn't a fragment anymore, but its own statement.

2) line fragments also cannot end in comments because comments are considered to be separate lines.

3) Lambdas can only be global. They're just fancy function declarations. Someone really liked the "blah(x,y,z) =>" syntax

4) blocks to `if`s must be on separate lines, meaning `if (x) y:=z` is illegal. And no, there are no curly braces, only whitespace.

There are plenty more, but the one that really got me furious is:

98) You cannot call `plot()`, `plotshape()`, etc. if they're indented! So if you're using non-trivial logic to optionally plot things like indicators, fuck you.

Whoever wrote this language and/or parser needs to commit seppuku.

My company wants to start using Node.JS.

JavaScript.
They wanna use JavaScript.
For everything.

JAVASCRIPT.
FOR EVERYTHING.

Scene;

**Asshat enters break room after meeting**

**Asshat turns to Asshole**

Asshat: “Oh here in a year or two we’ll just be rewriting all of this is Node.JS.”

Asshole: “JavaScript. You’ll be rewriting it in JavaScript. And fucking WHY?”

Asshat: “It’s better”

Asshole: “It’s not really a general use language. Why wouldn’t you guys choose Python if you wanted to write EVERYTHING in a goddamn scripting language?”

Asshat: “Google uses Node.JS”

Asshole: “For back-end web development type stuff. I doubt their accounting systems are written in fucking JavaScript...”

Asshat: “Python is oooooold.”

Asshole (to himself): No you’re old, you stupid, ancient fuck.

**Asshole rolls his eyes and walks away**

**Asshat continues his ignorant chuckling**

End Scene;

Clearly years of fixed format RPG programming has killed too many of Asshat’s brain cells.

DO NOT USE JAVASCRIPT FOR PUBLIC WEBSITES IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT!!!

Almost every fucking day, I click a fucking button and NOTHING HAPPENS. I open the console and find tens of JavaScript errors, that *I* have to debug and fix in order to proceed.

FUR FUCK SAKE, JavaScript is not strictly needed, those fucking React and Vue are also not needed. Just now I wanted to download a form: IT'S A FUCKING PDF FILE, why the fuck are you putting your broken JavaScript function to let me download it!? PUT A FUCKING DOWNLOAD LINK YOU FUCKING MORON!

Nobody is forcing anybody to use JavaScript or those fucking fancy frameworks, SO WHY THE FUCK PEOPLE OVERCOMPLICATE THINGS THAT USED TO WORK SO WELL!

When writing a JavaScript guide, please don't use emojis as keys in objects. Or anywhere else in code. Zoomers will think it's common practice.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Sincerely,
everyone

Teacher:"We're gonna write client side javascript, todays javascript is fast enough"
Me: "ok, cool, are we gonna use ECMA6 or Harmony?"
Teacher: "we need to keep it supportable for all platforms, so we are gonna use ECMA4"
Me:( internal screaming )

A client asked me if I had some software to make an .exe file run on Android.

So I replied with:
Yes, you need to run the RNN through a HM05 then cross-compile the output with a MOSFET.
You might run into an arduino javascript, but you can bypass that with an stackunderflow or XSS

Them: which language should I learn? JavaScript or Jquery?'

Me:

My son has started learning javascript at school, but he is complaining that all the $ signs are ugly! Yep, they're teaching the kids with jquery.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry 😱😱😱

The 1st rule of Javascript is: You don't admit you program Javascript.

The 1st rule of Rust is: You tell everyone you program Rust and how it is better than basically any programming language that existed or will exist.

The 1st rule of C++ is: There are no rules because everyone was too busy debugging templates to think of any rules.

The 1st rule of Java is: You must have excessive numbers of classes and boilerplate. The more boilerplate the better.

The 1st rule of Haskell is: It is great to learn, but you will never see it again once you leave college.

Didn't it take us years to stop writing javascript and html embedded? Is it just me or are we going back where we started? It's all a mix now!

"To use the clock you need Adobe Flash"

Really 1&1? You really need flash to show a fucking clock? Its not that hard to do this in javascript, or? Even if it is an analog clock :D There is even a tutorial of the "quality content page" w3schools about implementing this in javascript ... just whyyyyyyy? it 2018, not 2004.

(1&1 is an german ISP. This message occured in their webmailer using it without flash.)

Boss:"Build templates that convert our 1000+ pages built for desktop, into responsive ones that work on large screen and phones. "

Finished...Run the company's code scanner and it reports violations of development rules (which was expected)

I go to request exemptions....

"Oh, no you can't use JavaScript or CSS that uses position."

Isn't it fantastic that someone right now, maybe, is building the next big thing in tech? Or that someone is building another JavaScript library to be released in the next 30 minutes?

Seriously, wtf is with the new "make-everything-in-javascript" thing?

JavaScript is a terrible language. The type safety, or rather lack of it, gives me nightmares about debugging. The standards are always different. It's way too flexible. Ugh.

I'm tired of all the awesome services that I'd love to use being centralized over Node and JS. I don't want to use your stupid fucking language. Who does?

Also what happened to that dart thing that was supposed to replace JS?

One of the best way to judge a JavaScript developer is 'whether he used === or ==' 😎😋

Did anyone else find Javascript fun and easy to learn?
Or am I doing something wrong?

Just curious.

Am I living or just importing JavaScript modules?

I don't know what it is but, isnit just me or does anyone else just find writing JavaScript really fun?

No... Just me? Ok cool

Once got 3rd place in a company "code golf". It was open to any language or platform.

I built a functional minesweeper game in Excel with 600 lines of code, complete with color and animation.

The JavaScript version won with 342 lines.

There's so many Javascript frameworks, that the only way to stand out is to create your own framework.

I don't see an end or point to this perpetual nonsense.

'Muggles' appear to be a word used quite a lot on devRant for non-programmers.

I propose we call them PWOTRTJSAJAKAGFDEM:s, or Pwortes for short.

To clarify: 'People who often times refer to JavaScript as Java aka. God fucking damned evil Muggles'.

I enjoy being an embedded software engineer that is allowed to use C for most projects and doesn't have to program JavaScript or PHP nor has to use dozens of foreign libraries.

So it appears that by a good bit, JavaScript is either the Least Hated or the Most Loved language among ranters here. Interesting.

Come to think of it, most JS-related rants I've seen here were making fun of the number of Frameworks.

I'm just C# boy, born and raised in a .Net world ... Today I started some stuff with JavaScript, downloaded the JavaScript standard extension for using in Vs code... It made me do things...it made indent each new line by 2 spaces! Not 4 or a tab but 2! And then what really took the fucking biscuit, it said I couldn't end my statements with semi colons! I need a strong cup of tea and a sit after that shit. How is that at all useful to anyone!? It just made it make less sense!!!!

Is it important to be proficient in vanilla JavaScript? Or Is jQuery enough?

I got tired of relearning JavaScript frameworks and instead tried to escape their clutches.

Most of my developer life I've spent relearning how to do the same thing in a different framework.

And every three or four years its the same story, figure out templating, figure out building, complain on github bugs etc.

I am trying to reduce framework fatigue by allowing you to think "can I make my application with just vanilla JavaScript". The advantage of vanilla JavaScript is it write once - do not need to rewrite.

Do YOU think I will abandon ship and end up having to use a framework again?

Why is it that everytime, as a back-end developer, I want to dive into a simple front-end topic or technique which can perfectly be done in plain JavaScript, I need 27 different libraries and packages according to nearly all tutorials..

It really crushes my motivation and is just ridiculous.

I saw an article saying, What Programming Language Should I Learn First? 2017

It suggested, JavaScript!

😏 hmmm....

What do you think, yes or no?

(And no this is not personal question, just an article I was reading 😃)

I live a double life as a programmer where I write Javascript during the day for work, and C during the night for fun (or to fight crime).

I just discovered the javascript Proxy Api or how to prank your colleagues.

I don't know if it's the new generation of programmers or what but it irritates me how people recommend JavaScript/Node for solving almost any type of problem these days. JavaScript is nice, but come on...

I work mainly with Java AND JavaScript (separately).
I hate it when people think I mistake them in a conversation.
Makes me think they are treating me like a fool or a noob.
I really hate it.

Those jQuery fuckers spam their shit into every damn article or video. Why do you retards even use it in 2018? JavaScript has evolved and can do all the useless shit jQuery does in an equal style.
I hate to see modern front-end tutorials using this useless ugly tool.

Fun fact: half the modern Web 3.0 or whatever version number it has now.. requires JavaScript.. to show images.

At many places, first programming course is Python or JavaScript. Our university first teaches C. I feel its a great language to build up programming skills. Tough then formers and that's what makes it more beneficial.

Real Rule 34: If it exists, or it can be imagined there's JavaScript Package for it.

An easy to use, high level framework in Kotlin for front-end web-development. Allows for creating web apps without using HTML, CSS, or JavaScript.

Why use Vue.js, Angular or React when you have jQuery???

No, seriously I just finished 4 Javascript Projects without any front-end framework.

Why do people like non typed languages like php or javascript? Besides from a giant pile of possible security problems what do you get out of it?

Everyone and their mother has a JavaScript framework and the NEWEST cool npm module you're an idiot for not using.

It's like musicians and gear acquisition syndrome, coders love to have new stuff even if it's over-engineered, already exists, or redundant.

Hate dealing with tech hipsters 🙄 is nothing tried and true anymore?

!RANT

I've invested so much time in PHP and now people are telling me it's rubbish ?? 😧😰😢😢

C'mon ! Trying to learn (or get familiar) with a whole new language now will basically mean I'm going back to square 1. That helpless feeling of being a beginner at something 😢

JavaScript, here I come .

most controversial programming languages in one project. what am i doing with my life?

So, who's still on jdk 7 or 8?
Man I'm so out of date!
When did they come out of so many versions?
And imagine the Java docs!
Now I know how Javascript devs feel

Java or javascript

I hate windows.
I hate Linux.
I hate Mac OS

I hate Android, iOS, whatever os

I hate java, c#, JavaScript.

I hate programming..

I hate being employee, or whatever..

Shit, life sucks

Learn VIM. Unless you're doing Java or some other compiled static typed language. In that case: learn JavaScript and then learn VIM. 😎

What was the most stupid thing interview ever do to you?

My side of story. He (interviewer, also a developer) try to convince me that JavaScript and Java are the same thing. Which we all know that is not...

He said "I can't hire someone who don't know basic of computer science , this is basic that JavaScript is from Java"
(Isn't ecmascript or something?)

Saying JavaScript is From Java is a wrong statement. There are differences between having a DICK and Being a DICK.

Remember in the early days we were taught to build online apps and sites that worked with or WITHOUT Javascript. Guess they don't teach that anymore

What the!
I knew Javascript is messed up as hell but this...

I wondered an hour why "MyObject.size" is zero every time until I finally reallised that I only forgot the brackets.
Why, why does this return zero instead of throwing an exception, or at least "Function" or something like that?

That's bullshit! Arrrrgh...

Alright people, are we finally building an OS in JavaScript, or was it just a mockery?

Do you guys drop the S from your variable names? I am constantly in a dilemma as to what makes more sense.

For example a SQL Table:

Books
----------
BookID
BookName
....
---------

OR

Book
---------
BookID
BookName
.....
---------

Or even in a language like C# or JavaScript:

const BOOKS
var books
let books

or

const BOOK
var book
let book

Even if you have multiple items in that variable/table it seems very redundant to ever have the s.

What do you guys think? Any input appreciated!

Happy coding!

My last successful project was a small project I did together with my gf in javascript. She needed to make some algorithms for school for transfering
freight containers and picking them up. I made some visuals and buttons for her to press. And she added a file with algorithms based on the helper functions I created. such as: GetFirstEmptyPosition() or PlaceContainerAt(x, y)

She learned a bit of programming. And I learned a bit of javascript.

Which is worse?
The dreadful manager or Javascript on the backend?

Why the fuck should I echo javascript?
Why in fucks name you do not deal with JSON responses?

Plugin devs are either lazy, or simply stupid as fuck!

Ps: Or I'm actually crazy

I honestly don't get the idea behind JavaScript frameworks. Like, if JavaScript on its own is really so bad that it's only usable for front-end devs with a framework.. why has nobody considered committing back their changes into JavaScript itself? Makes life easier for everyone.

Also, regarding the framework.. as far as I understand it's a bunch of functions that you load in, right? But do you really need all of those, to the point where the unused ones are justifiable? And wouldn't it make more sense to write them yourself as you need them? I mean that's at least the idea of functions in languages like Bash or C or whatever.

What's the point of frameworks?

I just learned Javascript doesn't have tuples and nearly cried and/or vomited all over my keyboard. Pls no.

OK so... project I've been working on! It's a virtual processor that runs in the browser coded in JavaScript. OK so I know, I know, you must be thinking, "this is crazy!" "Why would she do this?!?!" and I understand that.

The idea of Tangible is is to see if I can get any tangible performance over JavaScript. I've posted a poorly drawn diagram below showing how tangible works.

The goal for tangible is to not use html, javascript, or CSS. Instead, you would use, say for instance, c++ and write your web page in that, then you compile it using my clang plugins and out pops your bytecode for Tangible. No more CSS, no more html, and no more javascript. Instead everything from a textbox to a video on your web page is an object, each object can be placed into a container, each container follows specific flag rules like: centerHorizontal or centerVertical.

Added to all of this you get the optimization of the llvm optimizer.

There is something so comfy about Java that I never get from other languages.

I don't know why but I genuinely enjoy writing 200 lines of boilerplate code. Maybe it makes me feel I am in control and not some syntactic magic like in Python or Javascript.

People keep ranting on java, yet it lives on.

Does anyone or has anyone worked with Electron? I'm kinda new to it, i've gotten down a bit of JavaScript but Electron is fiarly confusing. I have ideas for apps but im just stuck where or how to start.

Should i start with Javascript or Python as a first programming language ?

I am actually kind of starting to see reacts usefulness and opportunities, but just can't let go the thought that many are blocking javascript, so those would be barred from the resulting site, doesn't that bother anybody else? or is that just generally ignored?

Python or JavaScript on backend ?

Fuck you JavaScript with your blocks within blocks within blocks, your promises and callbacks, your million of libraries that are doublons or not finished. Fuck you with your assigning variable before functions, fuck you!

Javascript with or without semicolons? Why?

In a universe where JavaScript was never invented, the world of programming might look vastly different. Perhaps another programming language would have taken its place, or multiple languages would have coexisted in a more harmonious ecosystem.

Without the challenges posed by JavaScript, web development may have been smoother and more streamlined. Websites could have been faster and more responsive, without the need for complex optimization techniques. There might have been fewer security vulnerabilities to worry about, and the web could have been a safer place for users.

In this utopian world, developers would have had more time to focus on building great user experiences and innovative features, rather than battling with cross-browser compatibility issues and JavaScript quirks. The internet would have been a more accessible and inclusive place, with fewer barriers to entry for those who want to build and create.

Overall, a world without the horrors of JavaScript would have been a world with less frustration and more possibilities.

(Fooling around with ChatGPT)

From a job posting I recently viewed:

"About you: We don't care about years of experience or knowledge of particular technologies, if you have a computer science degree; or a degree at all for that matter."

further down in the same posting...:

"Qualifications:
-MS/BS in Computer Science or related background
-2-3 years of front-end development experience with HTML, CSS, and JavaScript and related JavaScript frameworks such as Backbone, React, or similar technologies"

........

no matter what fucking framework you use, or what shitty thing you build with your stupid framework, if you don't have a sound knowledge of Javascript, you are just a FUCKING ASSHOLE AND A DUMB SCAMMER. YOU WOULD BE USELESS AND JOBLESS IF NOT FOR THE ASSHOLES WHO HELPED YOUR HOPELESS LAZY LIFE

I never understood why some developers _ before their Javascript variable or functions. Do they serve any purposes? Other they just make everything look bizarre

Hey dear HR people and Headhunters - learn to write proper Joboffers - when someone is a JavaScript developer and even writes JavaScript for 10 years for a living doesnt mean he can or wants to write strict typed TypeScript out of the box using an library ecosystem and NOT a framework already written with TypeScript (React vs Angular)

Write TypeScript developers in the job offers when you search them: TypeScript !== JavaScript.

I'm curious
How many of you have your own personal website like name.com or something
Also my mentor recommended I build one if I get time. Should I???? I have taught myself HTML,CSS and can mostly understand JavaScript Would it be worth it???

When java was facing extinction, during the JavaScript, Node, and reactive programming hype. It did what it had always done. just adapt to the hype and maintain backward compatibility. We can all learn a thing or two from the humble java. It never rushes, it's patient. Be calm and wait before you hype yourself.

Helping a friend study for a midterm for a web development class at the university I went to. They have a new teacher this semester and I’m reviewing his slides about javascript to see where the confusion is...

First slide: based off of Java, hence the name JavaScript, but is not Java. Borrows most syntax from Java.

And they wonder why employers comment on the surveys: “unprepared for the workforce”

Looked up the professor.. no experience teaching or any background in cs. And people pay 6-12k / semester for this state university.

My non-techie girlfriend tends to get a tad pissed at me when she understands what people are talking about when she overhears them talking about programming stuff, e.g. "website with Python backend" or "differences between JavaScript and EcmaScript"... what can I say, she's the best rubber duck there is!

JavaScript devs, what questions do you ask or been asked during interviews?

Javascript or Javascript script?

What is the right name for a pice of javascript?

Just found I can bypass CORS / Same-Origin-Policy with anyorigin or crossorigin in Javascript.

Now I can easily scrap motivational quotes, Hell Yeah.

* btw I am building random quotes generator but want to generate quotes with web-scraping *

Whenever I'm extra proud of my coding skills, I go to YouTube and watch devs build Pacman, Donkey Kong etc from just plain Javascript or build portraits from just CSS.

It's an effective way to humble myself.

God I fucking hate Javascript.
- unknown operator
- type coercion
- sorting always works alphabetically (lmao)
- literally started as a joke

why can't it be normal and predictable, or at least mildly comfortable to use?

Like GNU - GNU is Not Unix, there should be JNJ (or JINJ) - JavaScript is Not Java 🤔

Ecma International, the organization in charge of managing the ECMAScript standard, has published the most recent version of the JavaScript language. ECMAScript 2016 (ES7 or JavaScript 7th Edition in the old naming scheme) comes with very few new features. The most important is that JavaScript developers will finally get a "raise to the power" operator, which was mysteriously left out of the standard for 20 years. The operator is **... It will also become much easier to search for data in a JavaScript array with Array.prototype.includes(), but support for async functions (initially announced for ES2016), has been deferred until next year's release. "From now on, expect smaller changelogs from the ECMAScript team," reports Softpedia, "since this was the plan set out last year. Fewer breaking changes means more time to migrate code, instead of having to rewrite entire applications, as developers did when the mammoth ES6 release came out last year."

So I've begun working on my senior thesis for college (a full stack Java/node.js application) and a student overheard this and offered to manage my project. He has no idea how to read Java or Javascript.

....You work as a project manager in your day job don't you?

Using JavaScript... (we combine JS and c++ and I love c++ ... definitely not JS)
It is such a mess to maintain and work with and I never had any propensity or interest towards web development.. especially JS

What the best database solution for web and smartphones dev?
Is mysql the good choice?
I’m an “old” dev with old usage, php-mysql-JavaScript.
Is it a 2018 solution or am i a dinosaur?
All data will be stored on server side. Web and smartphone app as client.
Thanks for your experience sharing.

The more you learn languages like Javascript and Python, the more you realise that while every syntax differs, they're all essentially themes of the same if, else or and, type statements... This leads me to believe that with enough practice, it's possible to shortcut or pick up a new language progressively faster. Or am I just a melon?

Bought a book how to write movie script. Can't find anything about variable types or syntax. Thought that will be easy as javascript but learning movie script is hard.

The joy of learning typescript!
One thing I hated about Javascript, fucking runtime errors when I mistakenly fuckup with a typo or assign wrong param to my vars

that ankward moment when you generate a javascript infinite loop and you are not able to close or reload the window

Every time I search for some CSS or Javascript feature the first three or four results are always from w3schools. I want MDN! Any good tricks or sites that does not involve searching directly on MDN? Some Google filter add-on perhaps?

!!rant
Types of elitists in the computer science area I REALLY HATE:
* Linux kernel developers: if they hear anything that's not linux you will be prosecuted
* functional programing developers (haskell, scheme, etc): they will bitch slap you if you even dare to mention php or javascript

I don't get all the hate for Javascript, or I might be spoiled with ES6 and React clouding my judgement. :P

I could write web pages in Javascript all day long. It's better in my opinion then writing pure HTML and CSS. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe I'm more cut-out for full stack dev work then I thought...

In case the kiddos ask if you can hack Facebook or whatever, here's a nice little JS code. Copy paste it into the URL, hit enter and select + edit whatever you like!

javascript: document.body.contentEditable = 'true'; document.designMode = 'on'; void 0

ps: in chrome the 'javascript:' at the beginning gets removed so you'll have to manually add it. not sure about other browsers

To have only one Javascript framework which everyone can use which does not do breaking changes every fuckin 6 months or year. And newer versions are backwards compatible. And will not endorse in any framework wars

Any JavaScript developers out there willing to help me out with something?

I have an interview question that I like to ask candidates that no one ever seems to get right. But, to me, it seems pretty basic, so I expect MOST JavaScript developers at almost any level of expertise to get it, and I like it generally because it demonstrates some core knowledge of JavaScript concepts and syntax.

But I want to verify that my feelings about it are reasonable, because give how few ever seem to get it right (and I'm talking across literally hundreds of interviews, MAYBE 2 people have ever gotten it right), I'm starting to wonder if I'm right or not.

Look at this code, and then answer the question after. Please do so off the top of your head and without testing anything since that's normally the experience a candidate would have. I'll give the answer after some time for anyone who gets it wrong but is curious.

But this isn't about YOU getting it right or not, and it's not about whether it's the best way to do something in JavaScript or anything like that, it's just about whether it's a reasonable question and whether my expectation that MOST JavaScript developers should get it right is fair.

const O = {
sayHello : function() { alert("Hello"); }
};
const S = "sayHello";

Question: using ONLY the variables O and S (and you MUST use both), write code that executes the sayHello function.

Thanks!

By making these shitty languages that basically abstract away anything difficult, Python, Javascript whatever, we've only enabled shit code to hit production which inevitably one day will either blow up or just add eternal technical debt. Even worse is when an MBA gets power to enable this.

Most of the rants I see here are related to CSS or JavaScript, so I am very grateful I did not end up in the frontend, which I would have given up long ago.

So what do you all believe the best first language is and why? I personally say Python or JavaScript because they are simple, and easy to understand

🎲 ...

I hate doing JavaScript full-stack projects for huge greedy dipshit companies, but I’ve gained a lot of engineering experience and now finally I have the skill to move to embedded, VR/ AR or a combination of both.

If anyone reading this is in the are of AR/ VR, please share any tips or stories. Would appreciate it a lot!

Guess fullstack is now the trending thing. Read a book on javascript and code examples in the book, do same thing with python or any other backend.
As soon as you are done, add fullstack to your bio.

So many newbies following this path. Coding up alot of examples with no real depth in any particular language.

Hi friends and others. There is a task I want to automate. I want to convert .docx files to .pdf and then minify those. Are there JavaScript libraries or npm- packages which can do that? Because I would like to use Gulp or Webpack for this task. I would not mind if external APIs are involved, but I would rather not use those if not required.

Pls share your wisdom. Bye.

A friend suggested that I'd start learning a scriptable language like Ruby, Python or JavaScript instead of beginning with HTML and CSS, until I feel comfortable with programming.
I want to be a web developer and Ive learned some HTML.
So, any opinions?

On a digital marketing course.
Teacher:
"Web pages are made of structured content and style, that's HTML and CSS. There are also many programming languages, like JavaScript or Python, but we are not discussing those here because it's computer freaks stuff. Now let's talk about cookies..."
Me: Should I kill myself now or wait until that man stops saying shit an die killing him too...?

µRant
Doing a little bit of javascript and php at same time.
Im sleepy.

I am looking for function in JS that is bugged to fix, but accidently opened php file instead.

It took me hot minute of annoyance that I cant find darn function I am looking for.

time for coffee or sleep for once.

Self taught JavaScript developer here

Is there any exams or online courses or certification I can take to make my resume more fancier ~

brew install node

keeps going for more than 5 minutes, installing idk dependencies or doing idk wtf

fuck javascript and its ecosystem

Whenever I see anyone mentioning anything about JavaScript (IRL or the interwebs), I desperately want to join the conversation.

I quite often run untested scripts on production systems or hot fix JavaScript files on live using Emacs...

I want to use Babel or Typescript for the first time. Because as I read it is the way to go, when compressing JavaScript and make it browser compatible. If that's false, please correct me.

There's a question I've got about this. Right now I am using a PHP router file dealing with requests and selecting the right .js file and compresses it. So I can write like modular JavaScript functions and include them when needed.

My question is, what do I have to change in my setup to switch to the mentioned technologies?

Who among you devs ends up coding with 4 or maybe 5 different languages in one day !!! And by languages I mean C++, Python, JavaScript and Java for Android.

Wanting to get into reactjs but no idea where to start, I'm coming from straight php/html/css and JavaScript.

Any ideas where to start, articles to read / examples to play with or check out?

What is everyone's thoughts on dynamically creating html using templating or other methods with javascript or jquery?

Testing a script embed plugin I am building on various random websites, and came across this.

Like, bruh; have you ever heard of a javascript map? Basic functional programming? Or even a switch statement?

It's the same statement, over and over again, but with different parameters. Even old javascript had enough tools to do this with at least a basic stench of "efficiency"

Since JavaScript is so widely used, do you think the market will continue to adopt JavaScript into everything for the next, say, 25 years, or will the market eventually have some catastrophic shift towards other technologies, placing JS back in the passenger seat?

Personally I love JS for some solutions but prefer using a diverse array of technologies for different tasks

Which JavaScript library guys are using? React or Vue? Or any other?
Writing React + Redux needs lot of boiler plate code :(

Serious question: why write in coffee or type script instead of normal JavaScript? Speed? Ease? Familiarity?

Everytime I scroll through here I see people complaining about JS and frameworks being made for it. Well think about it, would you rather have to use old buggy JavaScript or help the community and the language achieve better standards? Just look at ES6 and ways to write code and JavaScript really isn't that bad. It's just misunderstood.

Browsers are really terrible with printing.

This is annoying when building web apps for internal use in businesses.

There should be a JavaScript way to select (or at least ask the user to confirm) what is printed on the borders of the page instead of the standard date, time, url, page x of x.

What popular tooth grinder are you happy you don't use? I have a couple, so I will start.

javascript or a js framework
windows
a desktop IDE
google chrome

Our fucking life is short, we all going to die sooner or later, thats sad. To make the matter worse, every fucking software will eventually be written in Javascript. Fuck.

JavaShit is an ambiguous term.
I cannot tell if it is talking about Java or Javascript.

for startup ... php or javascript(node.js)? and reason

I think it should be an unspoken rule that if you make an IOT coffee machine the core framework should be written in Java and any plugins or integrations should be written in JavaScript... you know so future generations arnt confused as fuck.

Is it me, or writing Swift after several JavaScript apps feels like writing "serious" code once again?

JavaScript job or Java job?

Learn php? Or just use Node? (Javascript)

God help me if I ever meet the person who created Javascript.
Happy it wasn't my first programming language or I would have quite coding even before I started.
I had rather fail in C++ a thousand times(I failed C++ in highschool) than ever code in JS.
#The hottest mess I ever met.

So i was considering to start learning laravel but after all the hate php gets, i'd like to ask for your opinions guys.
I recently started working on django for a college project and that made want to learn new stuff, so i'm hesitating between JS (plain Javascript, jquery, node, angular...), laravel, ruby on rails or anything that could help me both on frontend or backend.
Any opinion is welcome and most appreciated

Got a Java And Javascript interview coming up.

Any suggestions what to read or prepare for both Java and Javascript

My biggest annoyance as a front end developer is no longer knowing whether to do something in PHP or JavaScript anymore.

Seems to be creeping more towards JavaScript these days.

In my opinion people hate JavaScript just because it's different from other languages.
Why people hate coercion? It's useful if you know how to use it. Or dynamic typing.
What's your opinion about?

Okay, real question here.

Why do some programmers hate languages like PHP or JavaScript?

If I don't know Java and no plan to learning it how should i learn kotlin?
No experience with c or c++ either. No programming experience at all. Because HTML and CSS aren't programming so yeh. plan to learn JavaScript next month after my fucking exam.

Once during my junior year, I publicly told my batchmates that JavaScript is the best programming language. They still remember me by face.
(Best or Worst??)

I like rants that are thought provoking and push a message forward regardless of whether they may sting a little, so for my first post on here I'd like to hit at home with many of you.
Html5 "Native" Applications are not needed. Let's cover mobile first of all, the misconception that apps are written in either javascript or Native android/ Native ios environment. Or even some third party paid tools like xamarin is quite strange to me. OpenGL ES is on both IOS and Android there is no difference. It's quite easy to write once run everywhere but with native performance and not having to jump through js when it's not needed. Personally I never want to see html or css if I'm working on a mobile app or desktop. Which brings me to desktop, I can't begin to describe how unthought out an electron app is. Memory usage, storage space for embedding chromium, web views gained at the expense of literally everything else, cross platform desktop development has been around for decades, openGL is everywhere enough said. Finally what about targeting browser if your writing a native app for mobile and desktop let's say in c++ and it's not in javascript how can it turn back into javascript, well luckily c++ has emscripten which does that simply put, or you could be using a cross complier language like haxe which is what I use. It benefits with type safety, while exporting both c++ and javascript code. Conclusion in reality I see the appeal to the js ecosystem it's large filled with big companies trying to make js cross development stronger every day. However development in my mind should be a series of choices, choices that are invisible don't help anyone, regardless of the popularity of the choice, or the skill required.

Converting javascript/ typescript Map to json
or python date to json

or anything complicated to json is mostly ending with implementing serialization patterns

With date it’s so annoying cause we have iso standards that every language implemented or have libraries

so typescript doesn’t recognize Map<string, string> so you have to convert it to array and then to object

with python you need to make your own serializer / deserializer

So much waste of power usage that if only Greta know it she would say ‘how dare you!’
It can stop global warming.

Is there any benefit of having custom input field dialogs, eg. for date and time? Should I be using just the HTML5 tags as-is (only styling the field itself), or create custom dialogs (creating custom javascript dialogs on top of basic text fields)?

Is it just me or is it just really hard to set up and test frontend JavaScript? 🤔

Karma + Mocha + Chai + whatever
is a pain

And it doesn't look very pretty..

"My code is explain itself. Well, I need no comments to understand it."

I don't care if you wan't to write comments or not; If don't write any then i don't care because fuck you and your code.

May it be java, kotlin, python, javascript or anyother language, you think "everyone can read", i hope you'll never find anyone who has to deal with you and your cancerous code.

I belong to a Javascript discussion forum on social media where people post dumb questions that have been answered a million times in stack overflow or ask ‘Can I learn {JS framework} without knowing JS? Only there to answer questions because I am 100 percent non-contributing idiot at my current job.

Node introducing Javascript as more than a front end web language was definately the start of the apocalypse. Just because you can use javascript/html/CSS to build a desktop or mobile app doesn't mean you should.

If ever a jinn grants me a wish I would ask him to build me a webpage. If he does I'll report back to you guys wether he went for material design or not, the JavaScript framework, the backend language, client or server side rendering etc.
Waiting for a jinn...

1) what do i have to know to be a good react native developer?

2) what level of javascript knowledge do need to have to understand react native?

3) how hard is typescript/ecmascript and what do i need to know to understand it? only js i guess or something else?

4) i have basic knowledge of javascript. do i have to learn it extremely well or can i start learning typescript/ecmascript along with react native?

5) tips for learning react native as fast and as efficiently as humanly possible

thanks

The solution to the Java-JavaScript problem:

Rename JS to something else, like WebScript or HypertextScript.

Fuck me man this is the second time this week! Planning on going fully to Ubuntu mint.... But I'm not sure if that's the best solution for me

Need a good distro for web development
(php, mysql, Javascript) any other recommendations or should I stick to mint?

Note to JavaScript beginners:
Dont use vanilla JS, use ECMAscript6 or typescript.

Its so much better

Sorry but whats the connection between rubber duck and programming?
Is it like java and javascript
Or porn and pornhub?

Do anyone Think it’s any Idea to learn Javascript even of you dont could css or HTML ??

Should we get rid of the name JAVAscript and start calling it EcmaScript or smth to avoid confusing recruiters with Java?

I've tampered JavaScript for about 2 months now and I like it. But I see that there's a lot of hate towards JavaScript on devRant (and other websites). Why do people hate/dislike JavaScript so much? Or is it just a personal preference?

Whoever left this code with comments like “Le JavaScript” or “Le HTML 5 Shim” I wish you immense anguish.

When you are asked in the interview to output something like given below with only using JS closure and without using a global variable or function caching in JavaScript:
myAddFunc(1,2); // output: 3
myAddFunc(4,5); // output: 3 + 9=12
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True Fucking Story :(

Semantic ui is bullshit.

I have been css frameworks
Bootstrap
Foundation
2 more that i forgot.

They are huge and simple to understand.

Now fucking with semantic ui. Bullshit docs. Javascript problems conflicts.

Will try bulma without js.
Or back to bootstrap.

Favorite IDE: JetBrain's WebStorm (for JavaScript stuff), Intellij (for most of everything else).
Why: cause it literally saves you time.

Bonus: VS Code for anything else (python or golang)

Literally anything I've ever worked on that doesnt involve HTML or JavaScript...

Borrowing a JavaScript book from the school library and realizing that it was published years ago and is very outdated because it always refers to the compatibility with Internet Explorer. I'm not sure if I should continue because after all, it's the basics. Maybe it's worth returning already... or maybe not because I don't always have access to the internet, but a book is easily accesible with or without internet.

Today on fucked up Javascript stuff: Call stacks whose bottom isn't an entry point or event handler

Any opions/experience with Lua? Im using this language right now in my internship. Its suprisingly easy, but not as popular as javascript or c#.

Web developers(or anyone uses Javascript one way or another? Why are you the way that you are?

froceRtl instead of forceRtl wasted 3 hours of my time, not sure who to blame, Javascript and the fact it takes any damn name, or the fact I was too blind to notice it, or the fact VS Code stood there laughing :\

Trying to make my first genetic algorithm program "to be or not to be" in javascript.... (coming from java and experimenting a bit)
Can't even get past instantiating a function/class Gene.js file into the main.js file. -_-
I got a long way to go...

Sometimes comments are the only defense between me and completely fucking up my HTML editing. Front-end is scary. 😰😭😢

i'm currently working on a FOSS project with 2 friends and try to do some kind of VHDL (virtual hardware description language) code generator in javascript
the more i think about the structure i need to build, the possible combinations, the automation of describing all components, yada yada yada, the more i get this feeling it's becoming an NP problem ... or at least a very big algorithm😅😐
let alone the problem of saving the whole goddamn code in files downloadable by the client via javascript🙄
heard of nodejs that supports file handling, might try that🤔

do you hate cats or dogs?
programmers: Javascript

Javascript fatigue. Because the node scene is so new it doesn't have the established isms and methods of best practices so every few months the next best framework or library comes out promising to fix the problems we all face

I know this has been before but what is better to use for HTML CSS JavaScript and PHP, Sublime or another text editor?

For a JavaScript beginner, Is it efficient to learn with or use "Strict Mode" while building stuff?

I am wondering..i learnt Java, later on PHP and during my internship Clojure and during some remote projects JavaScript and now because of my AI/Data Science ambition, hv been dwelling on Python and about R...am I going crazy or just confused...what paradigm should I focus on and stay there proficiently?!🤕🤕

Do logic designers socialize? I've never seen any non-serious non-onky-business conference, talk or whatever.

Yeah sure they aren't as hip as JavaScript frameworks but...

Do you guys think that the frontend or a javascript developer is an easy job? is less than a backend developer?

let's discuss

Dreaming in Code!

I know very little code at this point. Mostly HTML, CSS and a sprinkling of JavaScript and Python.

That was clearly enough for my brain to generate some imaginary lines and fill the gaps in a night of wild dreams.

I guess any code language works much like human languages with grammars, vocabularies and punctuations.

So dreaming in code isn't all that odd?!

Whether you're learning Japanese or JavaScript, Portuguese or Python, you need to read, repeat and regurgitate.

I hope that's what my mind attempted last night. Not the most visually inspiring of dreams, but certainly vivid.

Has anyone else experienced something similar? Has anyone tried applying language learning tricks to learning coding?

Am i the only one who thinks TypeScript is not necessary, more some kind of overhead creation?
Whats your opinion about TS? Do you use it or just "good" old plain JavaScript?

Why there is not website like w3school in javascript /HTML for C/C++? Or maybe I didn't searched enough

Finally enrolled in a c# programming course!
I've got somewhat of a knowledge in html and css and was wondering for a long time if I should go Javascript or Php, but got an advice that c# will give me a broader understanding of programming.
Can't wait to learn! :)

I remember when i was first deciding whether to do web programming or desktop applications, i chose java/C/C++ mainly because I already had experience. Back then when i was researching web stuff it was HTML + CSS + javascript and something called jquery, ok cool seems like I can pick it up in the future. Fastforward to 2018 and i was looking to get into it, BUT holy fucking shit what a confusing minefield and cesspool of javascript horror and frameworks and bloat, wtf happened??

I can not wait for the day till JavaScript can be thrown into the fiery pits of hell and we can just use wasm or even have the browser just support typescript natively.

What's the best resource (curriculum, pdf, video download link...) you suggest to teach an online class which is a whatsapp group/telegram channel web design. - HTML, CSS, Javascript then build some sample website. Please let suggestions be whatsapp or telegram friendly.

PS. I'm in a country where internet connection is expensive.

I don't know if I should focus on Java/Scala or PHP/JavaScript after university -_-" Both is fun.. What do you think?

I think I'm gonna give up on privacy. It's hard to use the interwebs without JavaScript. And I use a phone on which you can't install lineage os or any other secure rom.