Irony is, the person who put this is on his seat is German 🙂 🇩🇪

Job advertisement of the biggest software company here at our train station in Dortmund, Germany.

Playing cards against downtime with my less tech savvy mates is awesome!

Cheers from Germany 🍻

TL;DR: Teacher wants to invest in my company 😲

So, just this morning as I headed to class (still in school, 17 years old, from Germany) someone tapped me from behind - a female teacher whom I've only seen a few times (She is a really nice and friendly teacher who teaches economics)
She asked me: Aren't you the young businessman? I've seen your interview, fantastic! (Background info: I recently founded my second firm (Webdevelopment, Design and Marketing) and was quite often in the media (local newspaper, television, radio))
Quite unsure, I responded: "yeah, right".
Promptly she asked: "Is there some way I can invest in your company? Perhaps in stocks?" (Of course we can't offer stocks, we're just a small local company lol)
Me: "There always is a way I guess?" (I was extremely grateful but didn't know how to respond)
Her: "Great! Would you mind sending me an email with your contact info?"

What the fuck just happened. 😂

Websites that only display the language based on IP address (geolocation data) can go fucking fuck themselves.

THE FACT THAT I'M USING A VPN SERVER IN GERMANY DOES NOT MEAN THAT I CAN FUCKING READ GERMAN. AT LEAST GIVE ME THE MOTHERFUCKING COCK SUCKING OPTION TO CHANGE THE FUUCKING LANGUAGE YOU FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING COCKSUCKERS.

MOTHERFUCKER.

(context: I'm from Germany)

The interview was going well, their developer and I had good talks about their stack and projects, I thought I was making a good impression.

Then the HR guy had some Qs. He went through my CV, wanted to know why I left company X and what I did at company Y. He seemed quite impressed with the work experience I already had (the job I was applying for was an entry level position).

For education I had an entry at a university. "courses in computer science". He asked:

"And you finished the Bachelor's degree, right?"

Me, "well, no. I stopped after about 2 semesters. I'm a self-taught developer, all my skills..."

HR guy interrupts

"So, no bachelor's degree?"

"No, but I figured out that I am a much better learner outside of university and that I don't want to go into research."

"Thank you for coming in, we'll get back to you soon."

...

As a conclusion: I learned that german companies are still very traditional and search for employees with degrees. They don't understand how you'd know stuff if you don't have a degree.

Good thing: we also have international companies, which are happy to welcome enthusiastic and self-taught developers.

In Switzerland/Germany we have an abbreviation TEAM: "Toll Ein Anderer Macht's" which means "Hurray another one/stupid is doing all the work". I think that nails it.

Just saw this license plate 😋

I've now got one or more vpn servers in the following countries:
England
France
Germany
Bulgaria
New Zealand (coming soon)
Singapore
Netherlands (coming soon)
Canada

Finally have my own worldwide 'network' of vpn servers 😊

Alright, since the organizer for the European devRant meetup canceled it (let's not get butthurt/hating etc), I'd love to (with the help of some other people) organize one myself since I was really looking forward to it!

Question would be, who'd be up for it?

Location would most likely be Germany since that's the most central point.

I'd love to hear from you all!

I made a small Mac App some weeks ago and I just made it to 8th place on the Mac App Store in Germany.

This has always been a dream for me 😁

The iPhone X is in Germany so expensive that it would be cheaper to fly to the U.S. stay there for one or two days and buy it there.

I might not be able to move to Germany with my husband because I was born with one hand and the Army is apparently concerned it'll make me spontaneously drop dead, even though I've survived for (almost) 27 years like this.

This is why I like computers, they make more sense and don't say stupid things like that.

Got them 3 weeks now. Tested them before posting, here my summary:

Pro:
Arrived in 1 week (US to Germany)
Squeaky while squeezy
Nice hats
Really are helping
Stressball tastes nice

Contra:
IT'S FUCKING HARD TO FUCKING PUT THE CHRISTMAS HATS ON

Your sincerely,

A loyal customer

Germany

It's:
"oh cool. you must have good job perspectives."

Or:
"you just use a computer. that's not real work. do a job where you use your muscles. lazy student."

And the best:
"Can you gift me with computer parts for free" or "can you copy program XY for me? It cost to much."

My new phone will probs arrive tomorrow and me and mates are going on a vacation to Germany next week.

Currently using nearly all bandwidth/ram of one of my dedicated servers to download maps for offline use (OpenStreetMaps) and convert them to formats OsmAnd can use.

No need for google maps ❤️

"yes, sir, we block ftp and ssh connections from outside the benelux (shortcut for: belgium/netherlands/luxembourg, didn't say this part but it's a very widely known term here)"

"if you allow connections from INSIDE the benelux, why can't I connect from Germany, eh?!?!"

💀😶

Meeting with American customers in Germany. One of them fetched a bottle of water with crown cap, but the opener was missing. She asked whether someone had an opener, so I got out a lighter and opened the bottle. Surprised looks.

My (Indian) PM: "That's a German thing, opening bottles with everything except bottle openers. Even with other bottles."

Customers were like, WTF?!

!rant
I'm a developer in germany and of course, everyone in this company has a keyboard with the QWERTZ layout, which ( you all know ) sucks especially when using it do write code.
So i asked my boss, if i can get a keyboard in QWERTY layout, because of the given reasons.
He replied nicely: Yes, I will ask the hardware management.
5 minutes later i got a mail: Here is your harware order, you will get it soon.

It's not much, but that was fast and nice :)

Have a good day everybody.

"Well technically.. you don't even really work, right?"

Germany.

So... I still go to school.
My English teacher (I'm from Germany) wanted to watch a video with us. There was one Problem. The sound didnt work. My teacher asked for computer Freaks in class. All pointed to me. I went to the desk where the computer was standing.

They plugged the audio output cable for the speakers into the audio input of the computer (that pink microphone input)... 😥 it made some nice sounds haha

Funny thing: other teachers didnt solve the problem before me

First time in Bochum, Germany. Found this gem of an "iPad MacBook Pro".

Hello from Germany !
Meeting new, smart people doesn't seem to be a problem here :)

Having fun in Germany, I'm going to stay here for 3 days.

Everything is nice
except
that

I'll forget e v e r y t h i n g of my code
because
it is
U N D O C U M E N T E D

Wish me luck

You need a phone number to order a SIM-card in Germany. What.

Welcome to the gang you sticky little sticker. Im glad they made all the way to germany. Thx @dfox

I just travelled roughly 10 years back in time. How? By crossing the border from the Netherlands to Germany. My mobile connection jumped from constant 4G to H / Edge / no connection at all, The wifi, where present is slow af. And I can't pay by card anymore as I'm used to. And most of all: The loading speed of DevRant is so slow with this data connection that I wanna rant about it itself, but I can't, since I don't have any goddamn connection >_<

Will be going through Poland, Germany, France, Holland. Pic related. Shout out to all our Europe friends on devRant!

Our HUGE database RAC failed Monday, postponing career defining exams for husband... Have been paranoid they'd go down again all week...

HE PASSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE'RE GOING TO GERMANY IN JUNE AND HE SURVIVED A YEAR OF LEARNING ARABIC!!!!! ❤❤❤

And, it only took 15 minutes for me to figure out the fix; just wish my teammate had done so in the 5 hours he was on the call...

I guess DB discovered the secret to time travelling. Taken with my Nokia 3310

😤😤😤

4-Stars-Hotel? My ass!!! This fucking shit of WiFi connection only serves like 10 requests then breaks. What the fuck is this shit?

Why is a damn WiFi connection in Germany like searching for water in the desert?

I fucking hate this hotel. You cunts ruin my fucking week.

At some points in my life even I wish guns were allowed in germany...

Guuuyyyssss

In my recent rant I told that I will go to an programming challange (or so) in Bonn, Germany.

Today my boss told me I can go if I present the competition to all other bosses in our department + I will be a participant in the "innovation section" of our department. YESS FUCKING YESSSSSSS

I could get fucking promoted jeeeeeeeeeeeee

I have never been in a dev company , though I am programming now for 6 years. Started to freelance last year as android dev, making good money. Company Head Hunter called me yesterday Offering me a 60k € salary as employee. Told him : sorry, Its not that convenient for me (I Prefer to stay independent, even though it sounded very charming)...later that day he contacted me and Offered 90-100k as entry.. Wow.. I didnt even finish my degree yet and I get Offered that much. Android ftw!

23 years old and from Germany btw

I am from Germany.
And I wanna make a (new) website.

This is fucking exhausting 😩
(Do I have to translate it to english as well? The site will be bilingual).

I miss the time when I was a careless teenage who would just code and not care about bureaucracy...

Friday 6pm to Sunday 6pm, with toilet breaks, snack breaks and a three hour nap on Sunday morning. Roughly 44 hours. It was a hackathon, Nov 2016. My team came in fourth place and the first three teams went to Germany!

Well, I got a well paying attachment from it so it didn't go all to waste.

Me and my laptop then...

Recruiters in germany try to pick your interest with coding “challenges”. I like the idea but this is actually no challenge at all! 😃

WE'RE GOING TO GERMANY!!!!!!!!!

Forcreference: they told us we couldn't cuz I have 1 hand...

Germany plans to reduce their VAT from 19 to 16 % from July to December....

I'd guess a lot of old legacy projects will be fucked.

Anyone else remember the fun when you had a project where the VAT was hardcoded....everywhere.... And needed to be migrated?

I had two or three of those... God I'm so happy that I don't work for these companies anymore.

And I guess.... A lot of schadenfreude ... Cause I remember the pain, especially database wise.

Holy shit. Germany really is a third-world country in regards to connection speeds and reliability. I am visiting my dad this summer, that's why I'm here in the first place. Germany has the most unstable GSM/EDGE connections I have ever seen and everytime I go to Germany, I get reminded of that. Sure, they are slow by design, but in Austria, you can at least use them! In Germany, you
simply.
fucking.
can't.
I couldn't even transmit 10 bytes to my Raspberry Pi 3B without interruption, at any given point in time.
I really have to force my phone to stay in WCDMA/LTE mode now... Great stuff.

I found my people. We're going to start late night drunken security certification studying. Germany is fucking awesome. I haven't had anything to rant about since my flight here.

Also, celebration: my terrible boss declined the job offer from the company that bought us out. Life fucking rocks

Meanwhile in german train

In Germany we have some TV channels that everyone has to pay 17€ a month for even if he does not own a TV, since it's supposed to be free press. Well guess what they still post ads and every journalist's story get's filtered through 5 comittees. This whole thing is so anti open source, anti freedom, corrupt and stupid. No wonder more than 4 Million just don't pay this shit.

#include brain.h
/* Hello world. I am new to this community and just wanted to announce. I am here! About me? I am a student from Hannover in Germany and some dudes told me about this social app. Currently we are learning basics of C (I guess it is version 89) */

So this is a comparison of mobile contract prices in Europe which include 50 GB per month. I think I don‘t want to live in Germany anymore 😓

France: 14,49€
Swiss: 25,46€
...
Germany: 199,95€

I wanted to see that Ad sooo badly... :(

Thank you devrant for being mainly text so I can enjoy rants on my daily commute through the internet-neuland germany

I asked a friend from Germany to get me some pistachio flavored chocolates and he got me this. Now I'm not a chocolate connoisseur myself but although the chocolate tasted awesome I hardly tasted any pistachios. The chocolate was of such good quality, it sort of overpowered all the other flavors.

Thank you for sending the stickers all the way to Germany!

Travelling by train in Germany shows the 'great' status of the mobile network here.
Even emergency calls aren't possible sometimes...

!dev
I am about to move into my own house. Yay. But every ISP I called is very insistent that there is no house there.
"Are you sure you entered the right building number? The entered house does not exist." Yes it does! And it has existed since 1912...
Stupid Germany with its stupidly bad internet infrastructure. I guess that's what you get for privatizing the network.

Before we talk about building 5G-networks, how about we first get fucking 2G everywhere.
You guess right, I'm from Germany.

Tomorrow Halloween is being celebrated in many nations as you might know. So we do in germany. Given that in Germany tomorrow is a national Holiday, the company skipped work today, with me being on call.
My On-Call time almost was over so I got ready to party (getting into my costume), not expecting any further calls.
I finished dressing up, still had some time, so I dug into coding a bit, as a costumer called. A customer from china. As I got told later on China does not celebrate Halloween in October and they do in another way.
So I set there, accepting the call, with my Camera set to autostart (Company policy).
Camera. On.
In. Costume.
As a monk.
With a bleach white face.
I was greeted by a man starring me "into the eyes". Took a good 1-3 secs til we bursted out in laugher. One of the funniest calls I had so far 😂 (and a short one, thanks China-Man)

So I'm on a holiday in Germany and apparently the place where I'm staying "verifies" the connected devices to their WiFi manually

Anyone here live near Friedrichshafen (Germany) or Zurich (Switzerland)?

Will be going there for my vacation with my mates and it'd be awesome to meet a fellow (or more) devRanter!

In Germany you feel like somebody from today running around in the 1920's telling people that computers are the future while they are still reluctant to use typewriters.

So this is a rant about my country and especially my city: Berlin (Germany).
Germany is like a third world country when it comes to IT infrastructure. We have one of the slowest internet speeds in the whole EU. People are still afraid to pay with their card or phone. My people love their coins. While most of the other countries see the importance of the new technologies we still use mainly copper wire for internet. So why am I especially mad about Berlin? Google was planning to bring an innovation campus to our city. They wanted to establish a place for startups and technology. But the people from Berlin demonstrated against it extremely. They didn't want to have a company like Google in their city. I also am not a big fan of Google, but this would be such an important step to a better future for Germany. In a few years Germany will have a huge problem because we are so far behind the other countries. And it is so sad to see that seemingly no one cares about this.

This rant was brought to you by the worst internet in the whole EU

To whom it nay concern,

Merry Christmas (yeah...we do that stuff on the 24th, here in Germany) and happy holidays.

Yours truly,
Me, myself and I

😊

I'm flying Lufthansa right now, and if the wifi on this plane is indicative of German wifi, my rants will become much much much angrier... this is absurd.

For those in Germany with this wifi... HOW DO YOU FUNCTION???!!!?!?!

I feel terrible making $3,634/year at my current job in Nigeria with all my skills and experience.
I've applied for jobs in Germany and had a couple of interviews but they fell through.

It's difficult been a software engineer in Nigeria. 😔

Fuck Coronavirus and fuck the person, responsible for the outbreak.
The local commiccon, linux-days and my working-period at a location on the other side of Germany got canceled.
My complete weekend just got annihilated.

We have reached the -1°Celsius mark over here in Germany. Too cold to go outside. What about your countries?

Just discovered this App, created my account to say Hello and create my first rant. I'm already in love!
To my Person:
I'm from Germany ( I hope my english is not too bad) and I'm 19 years Old and recently started my apprenticeship as a developer. I'm specialised at Web development, especially with PHP and JavaScript

In Germany trains seem to become completely immobile if there is a single flake of snow.⛄😊

Mark Zuckerberg gets fistet from US Senate.
Im watching live from Germany. N-tv.

Google Pay is about to support PayPal as virtual card (at least in Germany)
That's quite the finger to the local banks here
I like it

Any country with very vague/non existing laws on flying drones? I want to test my semi-autonomous flight system for midrange delivery and in Germany you can only fly with visual contact.

All the long way from New York to Germany... Thanks @dfox !!!

Germany has the best 2fa method in the world. Sending otp through post-mail....

Hey DevRanters based in NL, Belgium or Germany,
How about starting into 2020 in style, with a meet-up?
Date, time and location: January 4, 16.30 o'clock, Café Jos Meesterschenkerij in Nijmegen :)
I'll reserve a table once they're open again after new year's.
If you never mentioned towards either @scor or myself that you'd like to attend, please give a shout so I can reserve a table big enough.
The plan is to have some drinks together, chat, and generally have good time together.
Look for the devDucks when you arrive!

Is it just me or are there many germans on this platform?

Merry christmas from germany :)

After moving, I don't have DSL yet so I have to use mobile data to get internet access. Additionally I had to finish a freelancing job. In Germany you have one of the most expensive and least reliable mobile networks in europe.

I had to upload my develpoed software to a remote server

So I suddenly was sent back in time. A single call would have disrupted the download (I can't use internet and phone at the same time, might be a phone issue). While my phone has "high speed" volume left and showed at least HSPA, but I still, the upload rate was prehistoric:

A month ago, I moved to Germany for work from Taiwan. People here are mostly nice and firendly. But if you don't speak German, there will still be lots of problems especially for official paper works.

But most importantly I got really cool and talented colleagues and a challenging job. Which makes me happy at least in work days.

In Germany some say
"killer games make one agressive".
Those have never developed for Magento.

Somebody ranted about austria searching for hackers? well germany does too

"How do you protect your ship from digital attackwaves" - "do what really matters"

My manager from Germany says, "We have a saying in Germany. If you buy cheap, you buy twice. We must adapt it as, If you deliver fast, you must deliver twice". Scenario, faulty code delivery without checking the need of adoption work items.

Oh fuck, Germany wants to pull an Australia and force services-providers to disclose passwords, password-hashes,... to law enforcement.

I dont get it why big it companys in germany still use fucking Internet Explorer and then complain about errors that are not even produced by our application. What the actuall fuck just stop using ie

TL,DR;
Did I mentioned that I hate 1&1?

I host my website there, a small-not-much-visited one. And it works great. But I also have internet connection at home - with 1&1. And it freaking sucks, it always did but that's partly cause of our unlucky position in the country. But why the flying fuck would it completely break sometimes in the meantime the last 20 days. There's a map in the internet showing places where popele have trouble with 1&1. The last two or three weeks germany completely red! Just sometimes out of nowhere the upload is practically zero. And then again, after a hour or a few restarts, it works again. A bit. WHAT THE FUCK MARCEL D'VIS? What did I do to you?!

Hey all!
I've been browsing devRant for a couple months now and finally joined!

I'm a CS student from Germany, most interested in AI and Infosec, and member of a CTF team.

I just made the world a little cleaner by not opting for veal today. Instead they are selling insect burgers in Germany and I had two of them.

They are made from buffalo worms, feeded and grown in Germany. No antibiotics. Almost no wasted corn or wheat.

Taste: like a veggie pattie with nuts and seeds. Texture is surprisingly "smooth".

Quite expensive at the moment, but I'll go for it again (€5 for two patties).

Would you try them?

Internet in Germany.

We had a kind of "computer club" back in a year. (AG in germany). The teacher left us (4 nerdy geeks) alone for a few minutes because he had to check on something.

He was still logged in with his IT-teacher account.

After a minute of reseach and a few little commands, we had our own school network admin account.

They still haven't removed (probably not even discovered) the account.

Sadly, the localgroup admin didn't have the highest rights..

!rant

Hello dear fellow devs, I got some more nice ram and don't need those ram bars anymore. Write why you should receive them and they are on the way. For people outside germany you (unfortunatly) have to cover the shipping costs.

Finally arrived in Germany!! 😁 Thanks, @dfox

The x-axis' scale for India made me feel sad, but then I compared the cost of living in India vs that in the other countries mentioned here, and then I was back to being happy (not sad).

Googles definition of assembler in germany: "a simple programming language" ... Seems legit

Wow, they arrived faster than I expected. Thanks from Germany :)

I just accepted an offer as a backend dev for a startup in Berlin, Germany. I’m looking forward to all the coffee and beer I will drink while I work. 😆

Phew! I'm so happy that I can use dial-up Internet connection just by connecting my laptop to this telephone! Who would have imagined I was going to be using such advanced technology in a 4* hotel in Germany! Such an improvement from the amazing 450kb/s on the free WiFi.

4 Weeks ago i went to a Electronics store here in germany. My Intention was to look at some smaller laptios (12-14 zoll) to use while im traveling to my work. While i was looking at some Laptops i hear a conversation next to me between a customer and a guy working at the Electronic store.
He says to the customer That the Laptop has a 8 zoll Monitor pointing at the Laptops bottom. My First thought was wtf because i dont knwo any Laptop with an 8 Zoll screen but its still possible. After they done talking i walk to the Laptop and look at the Spot the guy was pointing at. There was a battery sign saying 8h battery duration. says no more :)

Coding has given me the ability to turn my favorite hobby into a career. This in turn gave me the chance to take jobs in three countries so far (US, Germany, UK). So, I can explore the world with lovely wife while doing something I'm really passionate about and constantly learning. It also allows me to relate more to my dad, a software engineer of about 30 years who got me started when I was a kid.

In short, coding changed everything for me.

PS: I met my wife in intro to CS, though she's not a developer.

!dev sucks++
Soo, my GF who I moved to Germany for wrote that we needed to talk on Friday (today is Monday).
I was away for the weekend, and yester I asked what I could expect when I got home.
She wrote that we could hug, but not kiss...
One short phonecall later, she had broken up...

So now I will have to figure out what I will do... I don't have a home anymore (moved into her apartment), my job sucks, so nothing left...

Hold me

different kinds of doneness:
- The German kind: The method is thought through, implemented, documented, errors are handled and thoroughly tested.
- The "other" way: The method is there ... somewhere

HOLY FUCK (!dev) SOMEONE KILL THE MANAGEMENT OF DEUTSCHE BAHN ALREADY

Seriously where can I complain? delays on every single train i was on since weeks. and always because of some stupid shit like "we need to let another train pass by". wtf you didnt know that earlier?

So me and my colleague were buying some food at a store here in Germany and just as it was our turn the power went out and everything crashed. So we waited and waited and waited... While all other counters were working again we had to wait even more haha but at least they use linux for this :)

I never had such a strong hookah.
The hookas I had in Germany were "light" compared to these. I have the same chills as if I have smoked a blunt.

Germany is a nice place, but sometimes the bureaucracy is a bit much.
Especially when you try to write them a nice mail that you can't come to their "mandatory" appointment.
Because you're sick, like every damn time during the autumn holidays.
An email to an address where the hostname doesn't even exist. WTF?

Also don't you think that address is a bit too long? Chances for typos are pretty high when you do that, you know?

!rant we have a xmas-consumption here in germany where we put some sweets into the shoes of the kids in the night from 5th to 6th december. it's called Nikolaus. ...well that's what i got from my daughter. =) ...she's the best!

Got a mail from Germany, It had a stamp of Bread that looks soo cool. Thinking of starting a stamp collection now.

I started thinking and worrying about numbers much more than before

in the US, you write numbers like this:
1,000.00
in Germany usually like this:
1.000,00
and in programming languages like this:
1000.00

now i wonder how to type a number, whenever i have to use german software
should i use the US way, the german way or the dev way? the wrong one could possibly break it

The stickers arrived in less than one month... I'm so happy right now!
🙌🙌🙌

Thank you David and Tim!
Took some time because i am living in Germany but the wait paid off. Love the stickers!

Holy fucking shit germany... what the fuck is wrong with you?! the FUCKING TELECOM CONTROLS MOST OF THE FUCKING INTERNET?! Like holy fucking shit?! And what did they announce? svdsl... SVDSL?! SUPER VECTORING DSL?! I mean... you take the oldest car... make it a little better... you get SDSL... And then? you go for Fiber? no. YOU MAKE THE FUCKING SHIT EVEN DEEPER! You take your OLD FUCKING CAR AND MAKE IT A ZOMBIE! And then you get Super Vectoring DSL... holy shit germany... take your shit together and EXPAND YOUR FUCKING FIBER NETWORK! Fuck.

Hetzner Cloud

Very easy to set up. It is ready in just seconds. Very affordable prices. Billed by hours used. Hosted in Germany (or Helsinki of you want to) :D

Going to give a keynote speech in a convention in Karlsruhe, Germany next week. I'm excited.

Any recommendations from local devRanters?

Hey...just wondering...

In Germany its quite common for M$ nazis to call Windows "Windoof" , which means Win-stupid...

I'm not aware of anything similar in English or other languages...And that can't be ;)

Enlighten me please!

Le Mail: bla bla \n \n Sent from ...
Le me: I DONT DUCKING CARE!

WHO fucking thought that anyone‘d care ?

Why are there so many germans on devrant?

Im german too

I can't believe 1&1 SELLS internet.

Fuck off.

Friday afternoon completed resign process. Friday night fly to Germany for new job.

Me apprentice 18 years old in germany: I don’t want to go in another team
Also me in the new team after 2 days: playing with my new boss during work CSGO and say everyone we are to busy with the big project

When I came home just now after a long day and opened my mailbox, I was instantly made a little bit happier than before.

Thank you @dfox and @trogus for creating this opportunity for devs to rant about little and big incidents and to seek advice and amusement. (And for the stickers, of course. :D)
Thank you all for being the awesome community you are.

(Two of the stickers were immediately stuck to one of my boxes and fit in quite well.
Edit: Also: sorry for potato, it's evening in Germany.)

My client is offering me onsite project with 6 months of employmentship/contract/internship in Germany(munich)🍻
He is going to provide me flat, desk, macbook and transportation but final amount is not decided yet.
What all things I should consider while negotiating.
I'm so excited for this offer but no idea what should be expected salary and compensation over there.🤔
Ps: I have experience of 2 years in JavaScript development and I worked with him from almost beginning of my career.

Also shall I start learning germany or dutch?🤔

# hello world!
I'm 26, from Germany, web artisan and currently on vacation.
I'm fairly new here. Stumbled upon it on my first day of vacation. I will most likely share some rants as soon as my vacation is over, until then I'll comment, fav and ++ other rants and comments.

Hi guys,

Im a Software Engineer from Germany. I've just heard that delevopers are much better paid in the US compared to Europe. In Europe/Germany i would get about 40k a year as Somebody who just finished university(bachelor degree). Can somebody confirm that ? You dont have to Post your exact income :P just Let me know if that's True, because i am Thinking about going to Work in the US in a few Years ..maybe some of you have german Friends in the US it Industry ? :)

Thanks for the answers.

Highspeed Internet in germany. Ftp ftw! .. I sometimes had over 64kb last night. Beautiful!

Let me tell you a very sad, sad story:

I was standing in the line at Lidl (a supermarket here in Germany) and was listening to a podcaste peacefully, minding my own business.
As I was the next one, I took out my AirPods and than it happend:

One of my AirPods felt down, jumped from the floor into a shelf under the cash register and sliped through a FUCKING HOLE WITH ONE FUCKING SQUARE CENTIMETER SIZE!!! WHAT A FUCKING MISFORTUNE!!! No way to get it back. And the biggest shit is that Apple wants FUCKING-80-FUCKING-€ for one single new AirPod.

Can you think of how weird it would be that someone greets you with the word "Moin"? Welcome to northern Germany...

!dev
Seriously I suspect something boiling in Germany... I may just be getting paranoid, but lately I have seen an unusual amount of helicopters above Hamburg even at night. And not rescue helicopters or TV or anything, dark ones with all lights off in the night. That one night I noticed a distant hum in the air and looked outside. I may just have been tired but I thought I saw helicopters with only red lights on in the distance above Hamburg. It sounds impossible, but I even heard gunfire (a rattling popping sound) and saw light stripes in the air which looked like legitimate shots to me (and I played Arma so I know what I am talking about👉). But it was too far away to be sure and honestly I cant believe myself because other people should have noticed. But no lie, there is something going on. Just saw a helicopter again.

A few days ago I read an article about an IT company in germany winning in court. They sueed the government for charging them taxes for offering breakfast to their employees. They won because the jury said coffee and dry buns is not a breakfast.

So, my question is is there some guy from called company here on devrant? 🙂

Finally on vacation.

As an American the first surprise I got in Berlin is that Burger King serves beer. Never seen that ever back home. (Okay I was in Denmark on a plane but it still was cool darn it)

I've been thinking for the year about working here, but now that I showed up the idea is scaring me a bit. Go figure. 😭

I want to see more of Germany beyond Berlin, what do our German natives like here?

Is it just me or has german tv become more and more ad-ridden? A few years ago it was considered a dick move to play a single ad during an episode.
Now some channels continue the tv program but make it smaller so they can show an ad on the sides. And whenever i switch to the most popular channels i get an overlay that is basically an ad too.

I switched to livestreams and web-based tv for a reason, and that's because tv ads get more intrusive with every year. And don't get me started on the bullshit that smart tv's do nowadays, by that i mean sending data home.
I can't wait for tv to die out or to be replaced by an ip-based protocol just like telephones did.

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Do any German Devs on here have a good example Arbeitszeugnis?

One of my previous employers basically said "write your own and we'll sign it".

I've never seen one, I'm not a native speaker and from what I understand there are a lot of subtleties to be careful of.

Germany, Peenemünde.
Historical Technical Museum.

I'm back again. I missed the mild-cold weather of Germany and its highways a lot.

Only possible in germany.

Just why?

As a person from low-paying country, how do I reconcile with the fact that for the same work, and the same 8 hours, I get 1/3 of what a person in Germany does? In my previous team (same company), one of my teammates was from Germany. The same team, the same work, but he happened to earn a lot more.

This bothers me a lot sometimes. I have seen people requesting to be transferred to another country, and being denied, presumably because of the salary difference. Then, the person leaves, and someone in Australia gets hired. So, rather than moving a veteran person of whom you know fits your company culture to a higher-paying country, you let him go and hire a newbie in an equally-expensive country? What the fuckity fuck?

And to my friends from high-paying countries, especially managers: you don't have to feel bad, but have some common decency. If you come to my country, do not say "oh gosh, everything here is so cheap," or "the dinner for the whole team costs less than buying my family of four a dinner back home." That's offensive as fuck. If that's the case, fucking give me a raise you cheap fuck!

Finally got my devRant Stickers!
Thanks David for fast delivery to Germany!
Hope you guys will remain successful!

-devRant rocks- 😎

Mens day in Germany!
Let the drinking begin!!!

404 - Sleep not found (4.04 am in Germany)🌚

Well, this one is easy. It gotta be this year, as a finally finished my 2 years training as a software developer in July and I'm still working for the company that trained me.

Just as context, in Germany you have to train for a job for 2-3 years before you can actually start working in the field. During this training, you're essentially working at a company, get (reduced) pay and go to school every now and then. The training ends with a final exam, after which I could finally call myself a software developer. :-)

PM asked me to develop an application to fetch data from the customer's DB, which would require an access security token provided by the customer. To get the token, I would have to travel to Germany (I live in Portugal) to get it personally (it's not possible to have someone else pick it up for me).

It turns out the security token is a completely closed environment, with its own OS, without the possibility of installing any application or communicating with the exterior. The laptop itself would boot from the token's OS.

It was concluded I would have to hack the security token, which is completely non compliant. So the PM decided not to go forward with it.

But now, I have to go Germany anyway to pick up the security tokens because they forgot to order them for these other guys who would be using them to access the customer's DB manually and they don't want to delay the project anymore.

Oh, and the security tokens cost the project 500€/month each...

Ok why is my package from the US headed to korea with DHL is at germany now...

Had to ride the train to Bonn, Germany yesterday to attend a Sistrix workshop today. Bonn has one of the worst, ugliest.and smelliest train stations I have ever seen - and I have seen quite many.

The hotel I chose over inet recommendations is a shithole with paper thin walls, through which I could hear the neighbouring room's occupant snore all night.

Now I am awake at 6 am, feeling like shit and haven't had coffee yet. My workshop starts at 10, ends at 5pm. Train home leaves at 6pm, I will be home at 10:30 pm.

Gonna be a long f'n day.

I hope the SEO people I will meet are going to be fun.

I need a superreliable VPS in germany.
Suggestions?

Impostor Syndrome...

I dropped out of university because of Maths (I'm not really that bad at maths, but that thematic wasn't really mine... But whatever) and obviously had no job nor any graduation (except my school thingy) and wasn't able to study something computer science related, because that's how it goes in Germany... (If you can't pass a certain subject, you will get blocked for the studies that involve that subject for 2 years or sth... Because I failed in Maths meant that I'm fucked)

So I started an apprenticeship to atleast do something and get that degree.

In my new company I really felt (and sometime feel it nowadays) like I'm the fifth wheel on the car and don't really achieve anything (but i really do).

That really fuckin sucks and hinders the fun that I could have in my job :/

In Germany we have something called "Rundfunkbeitrag" (aka GEZ-Gebühr a long time ago).

The "Rundfunkbeitrag" is something that you have to pay for even if you don't own a TV, watch TV, listen to a radio station etc and consume ARD, ZDF and Deutschlandradios' radio services and online services (as in news sections for example).

That's pure scam.

The "Rundfunkbeitrag" is basically broadcast contribution.

Is there any country that is not forcing you to pay for something you don't own and/or consume?

I, for one, don't watch TV, never consume their services and don't listen to radio. There are better alternatives.

We, as a society, will even pay for the amount of air we breathe in and out in the future. That might sound like bullshit to you, but just take a look around yourself and face the reality for once. We get scammed from all sides, don't we?

How unlikely can that be to happen in the future?

We literally get gang banged with "GDPR", "Imprint", "Rundfunkbeitrag", "Media lies (rather subjective)" and other things in Germany.

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Again, if there are better alternatives let me know.

The fact that buying a paper train ticket from automates in Germany requires you to write your name on it afterwards with a pen is putting me through a lot of pain.

I just realized that out of the eleven 2.4 GHz WiFi networks in my vicinity, seven operate on Channel 1, two on Ch.6 and mine is the only one on Ch.13.

I am also the only one with 5Ghz WiFi.

It's friday folks! At least in germany ...

Vodafone Germany kinda messed up with their public wifi login page

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Hello World!

Just wanted to ask about the best souvenirs in Munich, Germany?

Our CTO is currently having a consultancy work in Munich, and would like to let him repay his debts for not delivering deliverables on time or should I spank his butt instead? So much for his demands and ignorance! 🤔 😈

Or any recommendations that could be of help?

Danke!

Depressive post:

Merkel sucks and her successor won't be any better.

In Germany Bayer just bought Monsanto and will discontinue using the label "Monsanto" due to the bad image.
In that line, let me present you...

Github Windows

Hello guys im observing since some time your rants.
Here are people which are quite experienced.

I want to start as Freelancer in Germany, mostly for Web development.
All of my Customers are looking for a neat looking, responsive and fast Website.

What should I use and what Templates​/framework I could take as a blueprint for the future websites.

Any suggest are welcome!

They are finally here. Im so happy. Thanks to DevRant

Pretty and responsive HTML e-mails for gmail, outlook and united internet clients (Germany).

Not exactly a dev enemy, but similar.
A new radiation protection regulation has been in force in Germany since 2019. October I finished a super duper important document for this and this has been with the TÜV ever since. First there is nothing happening and then there are allegedly inconsistencies in it, which, however, all of which were due to shoddy work with the "expert."

There is a german word for this type of person: Krümelkacker.
He faults every little thing in side-by-page letters, causes long delays, and in the end is often wrong.
But I have to work with him -.-

So as some of you may know from my previous rants I am recently single, and it occured to me that that means I can move, like, anywhere. And I think I might just do that. I'm currently in in Utah, USA, living about 50 miles from where I was raised, and I'm kinda sick of it.

Sooooo... Suggestions? I have been thinking about maybe the UK or Germany, or if I stay in the US maybe San Diego, Denver, or New York City, but I am open to many possibilities. What do you guys think?

So, is anyone here going to 34c3(*) in Leipzig?

(I'd very much like to, but I have so much studying to do, so I'll stay at a local hackerspace and organize a little bit Congress Everywhere.)

(*)34c3 or the 34th Chaos Communication Congress is the largest hacker meet-up in Germany this year.

Non dev question for those in Germany... If I need unlimited minutes with the best coverage near Wiesbaden, what would my options be?

Now I kinda wish I lived in Germany and had an iPhone (ew ew ew I take back the iPhone part)

Source: Reddit (Cant find it the comment tho, will look around and paste the link in the comments when I do)

Good evening outta germany..
Happy coding ,be smooth, grab some beer and dont freak out 😃
This place is just excellent.

Trying to get Pokemon Go running on iOS in Germany....
.... first time I regret not having an Android Phone 😫

Started my internship Monday. Got given a new top spec MacBook Pro. Yay. Except it has the German Keyboard layout. () require shift and yet {} and [] require alt. Whoever designed the layout clearly doesn't program.
Oh and the imposter syndrome is coming on strong.

So I developed my first program in python, please don't kill me for the code - I am a noob in python :D

I only have some experience in Java

The story behind it: Last weekend there was our prom here in Germany and our photographer has put all of our photos on his website. But you have to click on every photo separately to download it, and this is f*cking annoying. So I decided to write a small program within five hours to download all of the photos without having to press download 1700 times.
I think this worked out quite nice, but I have some questions to more experienced python developers:

- is this code okay? I mean its a complete mess but it works - is there anything I should improve?

- which library should I use to add a gui?

Did you all apply for a job directly right after the end of college or did you do an apprenticeship first and then really started working for a company?
On a side note: Are apprenticeships even common and relevant anymore? Or are apprenticeships only a thing in Germany?

Studiying CS in Germany, learning about CVS, SVN and clearcase....but no fucking word about git!?
Anybody using clearcase today ? Never Heard about it before

What the hell is Radler? Tastes like fucking soda? What the hell Germany?

Coming back home to find out that my parents switched to optical fiber and can download with 50MB/s WiFi speeds makes me feel sad to go back to my 15MB/s campus speed. Even more when I go to Germany.

From your experience, what's the most inefficient (IT-wise) industry you encountered?

I'd vote for IT in hospitals (at least here in Germany), it is really a PAIN to watch. My wife and I needed to give our data to three different departments when signing in, because nothing is shared across the stations. And when they did a (fully digital) ultrasound of our little baby, they had to freaking PRINT the images and re-enter the results on a PC in another room, because there is no connection. What the heck?!

I would replace it completely with industry apprenticeship, along with every other major. Education in the USA has become a scam designed to mine children for debt. If we're shackling kids to their student loans we at least owe them relevance in their chosen workplace.

Germany apparently let's people choose apprenticeship over university for work such as engineering. Does anyone know more about that? Does it work? Would it work for programmers?

Coding has absorbed my life.. I need a new side hobby for balance 😂 something hands-on, physically challenging and *social*. But I live at the most flat and boring place in germany and winter is approaching.. this will be a few boring, hazy months...

Thanks #dfox the Stickers and DEVRANT are awsome!<3
happy codeing and best Greetings from Hannover, Germany :-D

good evening folks,

im living in germany and want to get my first domain...
should i use ". de" or ". com", what would you prefer?
It should be an portfolio of myself if i finished it.
We have people from around the world here, how are you handling this? Does it matter at all?
thanks for help.

giveaway = u'free'

A free set of stickers, for a devrant-user in Germany. Sent via Deutsche Post.

The user located in germany who comments first, gets them.

Hey ho, some dev from Rakuten Tokyo here? Could do an application for it. Want to know if there are cool developers 🙃
But need to move from Germany to Japan and I'm a bit scared 🙁
I wished a while ago to life and work in Japan. Currently I have no real roots / bindings in Germany. Except some friends.
Should I try it or not? 😣

"Imposter Syndrome" - We are living in the 21st century! Here in Germany there are 124.000 free jobs. And even if you are the last creep out of the basement, you are still better than nothing! :D

With these motivating words I release you into the day!

Why do German companies hate paying interns decent wages?

I just had an interview for an internship at a decently funded startup, and they proposed MINIMUM WAGE as a salary. Acted like it was the most normal thing in the world, too.
I do have a Bachelor’s degree in Software Engineering and some actual working experience as a developer, yet they suggested they’d pay me even less than that if they were legally allowed to. Is that their way of saying they don’t want me after all? They did invite me to a second interview.
I get that interns generally aren’t as productive as senior devs who spend years on a certain project, but minimum wage? Fuck that!

Luckily, they’re just the first company I talked to, but I do feel a little offended.